Atlanta Begins Road Trip With 86-78 Loss In Los Angeles
I am not sure what is worse. A blow out loss to Miami or a missed opportunity in Los Angeles? On one hand you can look at the Atlanta Hawks 86-78 loss to the Los Angeles Lakers and see all kinds of silver linings. On the other hand we shouldn't consider the team playing hard and competing a silver lining. We should expect that on a nightly basis.
Atlanta squandered an opportunity to break a long losing streak in Los Angeles thanks in large part to offensive ineptitude and untimely turnovers. The Hawks were good enough defensively to pull out a win over the Lakers. Atlanta held Kobe Bryant to a season-low 10 points and somewhat slowed down Andrew Bynum in the second half after he dominated early on.
This time around Atlanta's offensive failings didn't hinge on missed jump shots. They weren't exactly proficient from long range either but they missed 12 of 20 attempts at the basket including seven straight in the third quarter that would have no doubt altered the remainder of the game.
Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum combined for 35 points and 28 rebounds but 16 of those combined points and seven of those rebounds came in the first quarter. Midway through the first, Larry Drew sent the newly acquired Erick Dampier into the game for Zaza Pachulia. Dampier had some success pushing Bynum off the block and ended up playing 13 minutes in the first half. For the game Dampier finished with four rebounds, one steal and one block in just over 16 minutes.
Atlanta used an 11-0 run in the second quarter to take a 41-38 lead with 1:04 remaining. Metta World Peace hit a three with just 2.3 seconds remaining in the half to put Los Angeles back in front 42-41. Atlanta scored just 10 points in that ill-fated third quarter but still only trailed 59-51 heading to the fourth. Had they been able to cash in on some of their looks from point blank range then things likely could have been different.
Jeff Teague ended up leading the Hawks in scoring with 18 points but wasn't nearly the factor that he could have been. As expected, the Lakers point guards struggled to keep Teague out of the paint but he had a hard time converting at the rim and finished just 6-16 from the field.
Josh Smith scored 13 of his 15 points in the first half and essentially took his game to the perimeter in the second half. Smith finished 7-18 from the field and had nine rebounds to go along with three blocks and two steals. Joe Johnson finished with 17 points and five assists but wasn't exactly a reliable option for the Hawks either finishing 7-17 from the field and 1-8 from three-point range.
Zaza Pachulia played much better defensively in the second half but was no factor offensively finishing with one point, nine rebounds and four steals. Pachulia played just under seven minutes in the first half so credit him for staying engaged and mixing it up in the second.
Pau Gasol led the Lakers with 20 points and 13 rebounds while Bynum finished with 15 and 15. Atlanta actually did a pretty good job on Kobe Bryant holding him to just 5-18 shooting for just 10 points. Metta World Peace and rookie Andrew Goudelock added 10 points each.
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Game recap thread with no comments looked sad…. I guess everybody had pretty much assumed a loss for last night ahead of time and had nothing to say when that was in fact the result.
I would not compare Lakers to Miami
What I see from Heat, is a team on a mission. They are playing as well as any team in recent memory. It will be brilliant to see them and OKC in the finals. Chicago does not stand a chance vs. Heat.
Lakers are not in the same class any longer with teams like Heat. Their big men are solid gold, Kobe can still be Kobe, but with no point guards, and a weak bench, they are paper tigers.
Teague will be fine, he had the shots he wanted. Finishing is not his problem.
All to say, we still are struggling and I am am having difficulty seeing a win in this road trip which just makes me be very cranky right now
If anything on this road trip
i would hate for us to lose to the knicks, im already starting to get annoyed with tebowmania 2.0
Ivan Johnson once strangled a man with a cordless phone
It’s not really accurate to compare Lin to Tebow. Lin is actually playing his position extremely well while Tebow is a terrible quarterback.
by redwards95 on Feb 15, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
But Lin isn’t actually living up to the hype. I have a tough time giving him credit for his game winning shot yesterday when he turned the ball over a whopping 8 times. I mean, 27/11 is a great game, but it’s not star level play if you throw in the 8 turnovers because those are huge, and if he’d had a game like 20/6 with just 2 turnovers, the Knicks probably win by 5 points, instead of needing him to hit a big shot at the end of the game.
Why are turnovers so bad? One turnover by itself isn’t a huge thing. A cluster of them can be potentially damaging. The league as a whole averages over 1 point per possession. Close enough to just say one point each. Whenever you turn the ball over, you lose possession, and give one to the other team. Essentially, it’s a two point turnaround. If you turn the ball over 8 times, you’re giving away 16 points. Now, of course, all high usage scorers are going to turn the ball over, and turn it over at pretty high rates, but you still need to factor that into his actual value.
He’s still a really talented player, and if he ever figures things out a bit better, he’s going to be great. But he’s not reshaping the NBA or anything-not to the degree that he’s being hyped up. The fact that EVERYONE is talking about him, everywhere, means there’s way too much hype. For now, I think he’s just a third tier star, like a Nene, or Kevin Martin, or Russell Westbrook, at best.
Given some more time to prove he can keep it up, and to figure out how to take care of the ball better, I’ll give him some more credit. He is talented, though, unlike Tebow.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
Wait
Let’s just step back – the guys scored more points in his first 5 starts than ANYONE ever and he’s not living up to the hype. He’s won 3 of the 5 games pretty much by himself and so, yes – he’s had like 30 TOs, but I think you’re nitpicking here. He cleaned up his mess. How refreshing would it be if Josh did that with his jump shots and missed free throws. I mean Lin looks better than anything Teague has done all year and I LOVE Teague.
So, you’re absolutely bonkers if you don’t think he’s living up to the hype. I would be hard pressed to say he’s going to CONTINUE to live up to the hype, but what he’s done is phenomenal. He deserves every ounce of that hype. I’m in NYC right now and every eye was on that game last night – from 17 down to win it. Think about what you said – a guy from Harvard and the first Asian American ever was cut twice and about to be cut from the Knicks – gets up and does things in 5 straight games NO ONE HAS EVER DONE!!! And you’re talking about turnovers and that he’s a third tier star. What nobody turns into a third tier star in 5 games – that comment by itself says that he’s lived up to the hype. So, let’s get it clear – regression to the mean will occur. Carmelo will take these shots away from him, but over 5 games – he’s as awesome as you could even imagine him to be. You can’t dream what has happened.
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by Hawk Str8Talk on Feb 15, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
But that’s exactly my point. He’s being talked about more than LeBron, Wade, CP3, Blake Griffin, Kevin Love, Dwight Howard, Kevin Durant, all of those superstars. Yes, it’s amazing that’s he gotten to where he is, but he’s still well below that top tier of players, and he’s utterly monopolizing the headlines.
It’s good for him, it’s a great sports story. But I think it’s just the nature of “hype” to talk everything up to the level until it gets completely over the top, where nobody can live up to it. Jeremy Lin isn’t any different. He’s the flavor of the month, and once it settles down, he’ll settle in there with the Russel Westbrooks-es of the world.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
jeez im not talking about his skill
im taking about how espn wont shut up about him
Ivan Johnson once strangled a man with a cordless phone
sorry didnt read your post bronn just was automatically responding to rewards
oh and watch he makes the all-star starting lineup next year.
Ivan Johnson once strangled a man with a cordless phone
If he makes it over Rose
I will lose faith in humanity
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Feb 15, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
The guy was born in Palo Alto California
He’s American.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
im talking about how the entire nation of china will vote for him
just like yao
Ivan Johnson once strangled a man with a cordless phone
Well
here’s all I’ll say for him is that we have had years of those other guys. I can’t even tell you how many people are tired of LeBron, DH, Durant talk. What’s new about that?, but trust if I came off the bench and did what he is doing – you’d talk about me too. Just let it ride until they lose and Melo is back, then it’ll relax, but for now the story matches the hype.
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by Hawk Str8Talk on Feb 16, 2012 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
No one is talking about him defensively
Calderon had a great game last night
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Feb 15, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
6 turnovers in first half
thats russell westbrook numbers
Ivan Johnson once strangled a man with a cordless phone
Linsanity lol.. I never liked Tebow, or football for that matter. But I understand basketball and Lin plays the game the right way.
Simple PnR NBA basketball. 2 Man games. The game inside the game.
Some of that is obviously coaching and surrounding personnel. But Linsanity is refreshing to me because it is consistent play calls and obvious ones. But you cant stop it.
I would love to crush the Knicks win streak/hand them an L at any cost. Especially since the players have been essentially cheering for Linsanity as per ajc.
They can not lose to the Knicks or that would be very sad imo. I know its just regular season and all but still… Need to beat NY.
sf Josh Smith + PF Jon Leuer/PF Ryan Anderson/Kevin Love/Dirk Nowitzki > tweener Josh Smith + tweener Marvin Williams
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Feb 15, 2012 12:58 PM EST reply actions
Simple play calls
Were they not running the same things with Toney Douglas and Iman Shumpert
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Shumpert at 6'5 has a scorer's pace and mentality. Douglas plays at a slower pace but has a SG mentality and he isnt as tall as Lin.
And he isnt as explosive as Teague. I have high expectations for Teague he should be beasting at 2 man game by now.
I googled Teague pick and roll and 1st thing came up was a couple of my clips from when he played vs the Celtics.
There is one play that has Josh Powell tell them to run the PnR and he and Zaza will crash weakside and Damien Wilkins is at the top of the key.
Teague drives over the top of Marvins screen. Marvin…sigh…tries to turn but trips and pivots the wrong way. No switch. So there is nothing there. Teague drives and finds Damien weakside top of the key.
Ray Allen closes out, very slow and instead of going past his lead foot, Damien drives middle into traffic.
Good play call bad personnel. So the play breaks down and Teague ends up getting fouled. That was a game we almost beat the Cs with Marvin at SG.
Teague is more of a PG than Shump and Douglas, and more talented than Douglas. I refuse to lower my expectations.
sf Josh Smith + PF Jon Leuer/PF Ryan Anderson/Kevin Love/Dirk Nowitzki > tweener Josh Smith + tweener Marvin Williams
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Feb 15, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
I never mentioned Teague
You did. I was talking about the Knicks point guard situation. I think what Lin is doing is wonderful but it isn’t like D’Antoni’s system isn’t point guard friendly to begin with.
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Another game was lost in the 3rd quarter.
I was surprised starting the second half. The energy was there and Lakers looked really lackadaisical but then the Hawks had to one up them and make stupid mistakes as well. Missed layups really grinds my gears
Ron Artest = Ron (sm)Artest - He Is The Most Interesting Man In The World
by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Feb 15, 2012 1:32 PM EST reply actions
"You know what also grinds my gears? You America"

Do not anger Ivan Johnson, or he'll have to go Kermit Washington on your ass
Hahaha
I was hoping someone would’ve gotten that.
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by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Feb 16, 2012 8:27 AM EST up reply actions

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