NBA Stats 2012: Joe Johnson Is Clutch
by Jason Walker on Feb 13, 2012 8:41 PM EST
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Piggybacking off of Tom Haberstroh's Twitter Timeline, we checkout NBA.com Advanced Stats to look at how clutch Joe Johnson has been so far this year.
My uneducated guess before looking? Seems like Joe has been better because the end of games have been less forced and multiple folks getting the ball later, though it hasn't ignored Joe either. Not every possession goes into Iso-Joe, making the times that he does slightly more effective. Or does it?
What did we find? (Hint: click that link to see the data for yourself)
This season, so far, Joe Johnson has indeed been clutch.
Clutch, as defined by NBA.com, is player performance in the last five minutes of games when the score margin is within five points.
For Joe, everything in the scoring area has gone up, from traditional shooting percentage (49 percent from 43) to all advanced metrics, Joe improves in the last five minutes of games.
His usage goes up, from 27 percent to 36 percent and his offensive rating increases also (113.8 from 101.8), without any incline in defensive rating (96.5 from 96.7), leaving his net efficiency even higher in the clutch.
Turnovers down, as is everything that is not associated with scoring -- apparently clutch time is Joe's time with the ball as rebounding and assist rate drop as his scoring/offensive efficiency increase.
So Joe's been clutch this season -- how does he compare to last season, a noted down year for Joe? Well, he was not as clutch as this year -- his shooting percentages all around went down and usage went up to the same level as this season, though his +/- and overall efficiency margin improved.
Even if he is taking approximately the same amount per 36 minutes (18.8 this season to 19.2 last), maybe he is taking better shots in the clutch than last season, because he is making more (9.1 vs 6.7). Though consider also that he is making more threes this year than last, likely making everything look better.
Looking deeper into the stats, we see that compared to last year Joe is getting more clutch minutes per "clutch game played", presumably because the Hawks are locked in more tight games late, including overtimes games. To date, Joe has played 67 clutch minutes in 12 games compared to 107 clutch minutes in 34 games last season.
As far as location stats, Joe is actually shooting slightly fewer shots from mid-range and closer in clutch time than last season (72% last season to 66% this season), but more successful this season (52% this season to 37% last season).
Exit Question: What do you think -- do the stats lie regarding Joe? Or is he -- gasp! -- clutch?
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When he wants to be
he can be clutch. Evidence has been shown before if the game is competitive.
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
When he wants to be?
So you think these guys sit around and say “well I don’t feel like it today?” The definition of clutch normally requires a competitive game.
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Are there stats that show differences on how clutch he is vs. winning teams as opposed to non-winning teams?
Kind of difficult to make an assessment when we don’t know that split.
Disagree. He always draws the toughest defender, Personally Im not gonna beat him down bcuz he cant dominate Iguodala or Lebron 1 on 1.
Hawks find a way to keep themselves in games and Joe Johnson has and will hit shots down the stretch.
sf Josh Smith + PF Jon Leuer/PF Ryan Anderson/Kevin Love/Dirk Nowitzki > tweener Josh Smith + tweener Marvin Williams
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Feb 14, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
ok so he gets defended by great defensive players or gets double teamed
And he doesn’t score a lot then. Is that different than what other great players go through on a nightly basis?
Still, how about ZERO rebounding in last 2 games? What does that tell you? Is that definition of clutch in your opinion?
I thought we were talking about shooting...not debating if Joe is Kobe Bryant. Because he's just short of that.
And even Kobe got Artest because he had more post game than Ariza.
It all comes full circle to Marvin.
Cover Kobe with Iguodala and Lakers throw it into Artest vs Jodie Meeks or Jrue Holiday.
Cover Joe Johnson with Iguodala and I propose Josh Smith at the sf so you can throw it into Josh vs Jodie Meeks or Jrue Holiday in the block.
No most premier shooting guards have competent wing partners they can play off of.
Stop hating on Joe. He’s clutch
sf Josh Smith + PF Jon Leuer/PF Ryan Anderson/Kevin Love/Dirk Nowitzki > tweener Josh Smith + tweener Marvin Williams
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Feb 14, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Who talked Kobe? Did I make a reference?
To be considered clutch you come through against good competition & bad. A player can be effective and not score, but not if said player is passive. That is why I shared with you rebounding data. Which has nothing to do with scoring. Joe is being passive, that is the point you miss.
As for scoring, tell me are these scoring of a clutch player in last 5 games vs. good competition?
Miami (5-13) 12 points
Orlando (6-16) 14 points
Pacers (8-23) 20 points
Sun (6-13) 12 points
Memphis (4-10) 10 points
I am not talking about other players helping. A clutch player has to come through regardless of teammates.
May be you should look at stats before you post.
Tell me who was guarding him. Its all about matchups. NBA players commonly talk about playing positions due to size advantage. I'll never blame
Joe Johnson for having the best defender on him because there are supposed to be other options.
I was going by the last-shots-of-the-game definition. Looking at the article this is the definition given:
“Clutch, as defined by NBA.com, is player performance in the last five minutes of games when the score margin is within five points.”
Joe Johnson is not a superstar who’s going to get a lot of shots like Kobe. Yes he’s more passive against good defenders over the course of the game (and thats excused because thats when Marvin vs Meeks should be an advantage) but he’s not necessarily passing up shots in the clutch.
Joe is not athletic enough to get a good shot everytime against say Iguodala or Tony Allen or Grant Hill. But we are only as strong as the weakest link. He draws the best defender why not attack the weakest defender. Because we cant (Marvin) its a fumble.
Joe is paid like a superstar but he is a notch below. He draws attention from his teammates. And thats all I’m asking for. He is not going to drop 50 on the best defender. Its a team sport and the question you should ask is, is he being put in the best position to succeed.
To me the answer is no and it helps me sleep better at night! 8-23 is not passive at all.
sf Josh Smith + PF Jon Leuer/PF Ryan Anderson/Kevin Love/Dirk Nowitzki > tweener Josh Smith + tweener Marvin Williams
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Feb 14, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Well it is kind of hard being clutch in the last 5 minutes
If he is sitting the entire 4th quarter because we are already behind by 20-30 points, don’t you think?
He seems to be looking for the floater in the lane a bit more
The one thing I’ll give JJ yesterday – he did come out at the start of the 2nd half and look to attack the rim.
Do not anger Ivan Johnson, or he'll have to go Kermit Washington on your ass
I was thinking that also
he seems to be automatic when he gets to the paint. Why he doesnt do it more I have no idea
Ivan Johnson once strangled a man with a cordless phone
Honestly I love Iso-Joe in "clutch" situations (but never any other time)
He has shown he is either quick enough to get around bigger defenders or big enough to back down smaller ones. The stats back that up. Plus there’s a minuscule chance at a turnover in those situation and everyone can afford to crash the rim for a putback
Atlanta sports have singlehandedly crushed my soul.
yeah "clutch" kind of requires the games to be competitive.
sf Josh Smith + PF Jon Leuer/PF Ryan Anderson/Kevin Love/Dirk Nowitzki > tweener Josh Smith + tweener Marvin Williams
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
i don't care about clutch
can you take over a game vs. elite competition…if not, so what?
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