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Heat vs. Hawks Final Score: Miami Heat 107, Atlanta Hawks 87

Flattened.

Star-divide

Quick Thought: Say, can somebody unschedule all remaining nationally televised games? Signed, Hawks' Intensity.

Deep(er) Thoughts:

There were about 4 1/2 minutes of the first three quarters that the Atlanta Hawks made any kind of mini-run. For the other 31 1/2 minutes, everyone was treated to a classic "we're intimidated" Hawks game, the kind where we see the Hawks treat the lane like it's a pool of acid and missed jumpshots like spurious poll results.

You would have thought Alonzo Mourning was still in his prime the way the Hawks meekly poked their toes in the lane before throwing it back out for a jump shot. The Hawks were 11-27 and had almost four times as many three attempts than free throw attempts, with a paltry seven for the game.

It was only the fourth time a Hawks team had shot seven or fewer free throws in a game since 1986, but the second time this season, the first being the win at home over Chicago, per Basketball-Reference.

It only underscored the timid approach the team took to their offense and when the missed shots found their way into Miami's hands, it led to the Heat' either scoring in transition or getting to the line, which they did for a 26-31 night for free throws.

Jeff Teague showed he has a ways to go to be the confident, aggressive trigger man to the offense night after night and this game showed the difference between the offensive efforts with which Teague shows up. Joel Anthony can block shots, but there was no way the Hawks would feel as though there was no hope getting inside. The Hawks out-assisted the Heat 26-18, but the lack of attack hurt the Hawks in the free throw disparity.

Afterthoughts:

The Miami Heat, per MySynergySports.com, are the #8 defense in the league by points per possession. Their weakest spot is in closing out on spot up shooters, where they give up nearly a point per possession. Naturally, team's try to exploit that regularly, as that play appears in 25 percent of the Heat's defensive plays.

The Hawks used 28 of their 105 possessions on spot up shots, and were very successful there, scoring 36 of their 87 points on those plays. The 1.29 points per possession represents 51% more success on those plays than on the other 77 possessions, where the Hawks could muster only .66 points per possession.

So the Hawks actually exploited the Heat weakness more than the average team, but everywhere else --- the Heat had the Hawks' number.

Final Thought:

Here's the silver lining to another national embarrassment "effort": This team has never been about defining wins or losses -- there's only the next game, which comes Tuesday night against the Lakers, the first game of a five game roadie that include Phoenix, Portland, Chicago (on ESPN again) and wrapping it up against the Jeremy Lin resurgent Knicks. Wait, did I say silver lining?

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very embarrassing

and another blow to this fanbase.

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on Feb 12, 2012 10:53 PM EST reply actions  

Apparently we're a good enough team to beat sub .500 opponents

But struggle against above .500 opponents. Sound familiar? Sadly, this is not a contending team, good (not great) players, poor coaching, worse management

Stop me if you've heard this before. An Atlanta team chokes in the postseason...

by Beachy Keen on Feb 12, 2012 11:04 PM EST reply actions  

I never said we couldn't beat above .500 teams

I just said to contend we need to routinely beat above .500 teams, at least go .500 against them. Right now we’re 5-9 against .500 and better teams

Atlanta sports have singlehandedly crushed my soul.

by Beachy Keen on Feb 13, 2012 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

This is why the media hate the Hawks. We just have to understand it and get over it.

My girlfriend and I went to the game tonight and she hasn’t watched the Hawks at all this year and here are some of her quotes….which is what we here from most of the media..

- " They play so lazy and it looks like they aren’t trying."
- " They are letting them score on everything."
- " Josh Smith looks like he sucks!"
- " We shoot to many jumpshots and play so sloppy."

She is a casual watcher of the Hawks and these are the same things we here from most other casual Hawk fans and media. We’ll never gain respect because they just don’t have the consistency throughout the season even though we know we can count on them to make the playoffs and probably make it to the second round.

by BravesFanScout on Feb 12, 2012 11:04 PM EST reply actions  

It's a vicious cycle

Players don’t have consistant effort and so fans don’t consistant come to games/care about the team. Less fan support = less effort/hustle which fails to gain less fan support. I wish we could be the Blazers/Thunder but it takes breaking the cycle

Stop me if you've heard this before. An Atlanta team chokes in the postseason...

by Beachy Keen on Feb 12, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

*fails to gain more fan support

Stop me if you've heard this before. An Atlanta team chokes in the postseason...

by Beachy Keen on Feb 12, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

all comes down to matchups,

sf Josh Smith + PF Jon Leuer/PF Ryan Anderson/Kevin Love/Dirk Nowitzki > tweener Josh Smith + tweener Marvin Williams
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}

by PointGuardSlim on Feb 13, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

The difference

In todays game: atlanta 6-7 from the stripe, miami 26-31. Final score miami 106 atlanta 86. 20 point difference in ft’s, 20 point difference in the final score. No coincidence. Hawks never get calls to go their way on national tv…the nba wants miami to win, thats a fact.

by bravesfanldh on Feb 12, 2012 11:39 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

yeah

the NBA certainly has a hard-on for Miami, but we can’t get to the stripe if we’re just gonna jack up shots from outside and pray they make it in.

by Turb0 on Feb 13, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Correction

107-87, haha, but the fact remains the same

by bravesfanldh on Feb 12, 2012 11:40 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

The Hawks might've seen a bit more parity in the trips to the charity stripe if they'd looked to take it to the bucket a bit more

rather than relying on outside jumeprs.

Do not anger Ivan Johnson, or he'll have to go Kermit Washington on your ass

by Nique Fan on Feb 13, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Thats

My point. Hawks only shot 7 ft’s! When I said the nba wants miami to win I want saying they weren’t giving the hawks calls, I was saying they were putting miami, and james in particular, on the line for shooting fouls that were anything but shooting fouls.
Atlanta definitely didn’t help themselves to get to the line and should have been much more aggressive, I agree

by bravesfanldh on Feb 13, 2012 1:17 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

so was at work during the game

sounds like a game im gonna have to suppress from my memory

Ivan Johnson once strangled a man with a cordless phone

by Throw on Feb 13, 2012 12:01 AM EST reply actions  

It's getting disheartening to approach a fourth quarter

and hope that the bench can add some respectability to the scoreline. It just seems to be a little too commonplace lately.

Do not anger Ivan Johnson, or he'll have to go Kermit Washington on your ass

by Nique Fan on Feb 13, 2012 12:58 AM EST reply actions  

The Hawks are now playing like I thought they would when Horford went down. Those first few weeks where it seemed like they wouldn’t miss him were a fluke. When a borderline elite team loses one of its top 3 players, good things don’t happen.

by redwards95 on Feb 13, 2012 6:07 AM EST reply actions  

I knew it!

- When the topic of center was raised again, he answered he thinks getting a center will reduce Smoove’s value by moving him away from the basket. So he is not convinced anything other than Lion and Smoove is necessary.

STRETCH BIG MAN

Should’ve asked him how we acquire one of these and if we really overlooked how soft Vlad was that you could cover them with wing players.

Because at the outset of the season LD called Vlad a 4. But then he had no post game and wings started guarding him instead of Smoove.

I’ve seen enough quotes to half believe they know what they’re doing. I would wish Hawks would see that quote and move on to the next questions. Yes Smith is effectively a center but, How hard is it to acquire a stretch C/PF and how long have they been looking for one?

- When the topic of center was raised again, he answered he thinks getting a center will reduce Smoove’s value by moving him away from the basket. So he is not convinced anything other than Lion and Smoove is necessary.

sf Josh Smith + PF Jon Leuer/PF Ryan Anderson/Kevin Love/Dirk Nowitzki > tweener Josh Smith + tweener Marvin Williams
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}

by PointGuardSlim on Feb 13, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean obviously other teams want the Hawks undersized and arent giving up big men who can shoot. but thats the next step

sf Josh Smith + PF Jon Leuer/PF Ryan Anderson/Kevin Love/Dirk Nowitzki > tweener Josh Smith + tweener Marvin Williams
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}

by PointGuardSlim on Feb 13, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

unless he's talking about Smith is less valuable on defense? Because that is stupid. Smith's defensive value can come from athletic roaming and going into transition alley oops as an SF.

sf Josh Smith + PF Jon Leuer/PF Ryan Anderson/Kevin Love/Dirk Nowitzki > tweener Josh Smith + tweener Marvin Williams
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}

by PointGuardSlim on Feb 13, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

ATLpaul..???

Does he sound like their is hope that Al will be back or is he done?

by Rufus1 on Feb 13, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Al said he's hoping to get back right around end of season, beginning of playoffs

But if he’s not really even rehabbing yet while the muscle is still healing, it’s hard to be too confident in anything, I’d think. (That’s the stayed at the Holiday Express medical opinion, not a real one.)

by wjb1492 on Feb 13, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

He sounded optimistic

But I doubt even he knews. It seems like that is what he may be counting on.

by ATLpaul on Feb 13, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

No Different

This game is no different than the times they let this happen last year. These type games happened with Horford. I am a die hard fan, but I have never seen a legitimately good team roll over and get totally dominated like they are the worst team in the league like the Hawks do. And yes, it seems like it is always on national tv. I am not a Joe hater like most now and still actually like him. However, I think the problem here is partially with him. When he sees things going south like this in a hurry, he has to step up and drive the ball to the basket and get others to. Any idiot could see why they were losing. They were not hitting their jumpshots. Take the ball hard to the hole and test the mighty Joel Anthony. In times like this Josh often tries to do to much, but at least he often tries something. The other guys tuck their tails and look scared to death. Joe has to step up and lead by example at these times. HIs just another guy on the team act is great and when he plays great because it is good to have a humble star these days, but he has to throw that out the window when things are going like this. Also, I know they are pro athletes and hard to get through to, but I would love to see Drew screaming at them to take the ball inside. IT is like he concedes the loss as well.

by swell4 on Feb 13, 2012 8:10 AM EST reply actions  

The Hawks also didn't push the ball effectively enough

too many times we would get a long rebound only to slow it up and not pass the ball. Zaza was open, had his man pinned and nobody thought to even pass to the post.

Most of all, we didn’t use the zone like we did in earlier games with the Heat, not until the middle of the third and before that we were man-switching like the old days. I was thinking they didn’t use the zone because of zaza lateral limitations or awareness, but why not even try?? They were playing zone on us all day and they were off to the races.

And for crying out loud, Josh please give the ball to Teague or tell everybody to get out and run when you get a rebound

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on Feb 13, 2012 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

This is not a 66 game team....

This is what we do in the regular season and sometimes in the post season…but I think this years post season will be different.

by Rufus1 on Feb 13, 2012 11:39 AM EST reply actions  

does anyone actually believe that mike miller can check joe johnson? if you body check lebron when he starts his drive he’s not going to get to the hoop either. allowing them to defend us like that and calling touch fouls for lebron is going to alter the outcome of the game. hawks realize they werent going to get to the lane unmolested so they tried to win with jumpers.

by Botchelism on Feb 14, 2012 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

Mike Miller wasnt checking Joe Johnson though! He was checking Marvin Williams! geez. People still dont see this.

sf Josh Smith + PF Jon Leuer/PF Ryan Anderson/Kevin Love/Dirk Nowitzki > tweener Josh Smith + tweener Marvin Williams
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}

by PointGuardSlim on Feb 14, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

incorrect, on a couple of trips down the court in a row, joe was trying to go to work on miller and couldnt even get passed him. #allowedtofoul

by Botchelism on Feb 14, 2012 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

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