Atlanta Hawks Vs. Detroit Pistons Preview And Game Thread #20
by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 4:47 PM EST
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| Atlanta Hawks 2011-2012 Regular Season Game #20 | ||
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| 13-6 | 5-14 | |
| The Palace Of Auburn Hills | ||
| January 27, 2012 7:30 pm | ||
| SportsSouth, 680 The Fan, 93.7 FM, NBA Audio League Pass | ||
| Probable starters: | ||
| Jeff Teague | PG | Brandon Knight |
| Joe Johnson | SG | Rodney Stuckey |
| Marvin Williams | SF | Tayshaun Prince |
| Josh Smith | PF | Greg Monroe |
| Zaza Pachulia | C | Ben Wallace |
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Hawks Injury Report: Al Horford (torn pectoral muscle) is out.
Pistons Injury Report: Charlie Villanueva (ankle) is out. Will Bynum (foot) and Ben Gordon (shoulder) are doubtful.
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Preview:
Detroit gave the Miami Heat a scare Wednesday night falling 101-98. Key players Charlie Villanueva, Will Bynum, Ben Gordon and Tayshaun Prince all missed the game for the Pistons. Prince was out with a family matter and his status for Friday's game against Atlanta is unknown. Austin Daye picked up a lot of the slack scoring a career-high 28 points against the Heat.
Atlanta won three of the four matchups last season against the Pistons. Josh Smith averaged 23 points and 9.5 rebounds per game in those games. Friday's game will be Atlanta's third on its current five-game road trip. The Hawks split the first two games winning in Milwaukee and falling in San Antonio on Wednesday.
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Pistons fan here, editor over at DetroitBadBoys
Hey Peachtree Pimps!
I wrote tonight’s game preview over at DBB and discussed a strategy for rebuilding the Hawks. Just curious about your take on these points:
1. Amnesty Joe Johnson this summer.
2. Trade Kirk Hinrich’s expiring for a shooting guard to replace Johnson before the March 15th deadline. (Hinrich could request a waiver and return to Atlanta before the playoffs)
3. Trade Josh Smith on or before draft day for a top 4 pick, aiming for Andre Drummond
4. Move Horford to PF, where he might be more comfortable and productive
5. Start 2012-13 with a core of Teague, Horford and Drummond
I mentioned in my preview (with my homer glasses on) that one option for Atlanta would be to send out Hinrich’s expiring for Ben Gordon, if the interest is replacing the current production of Johnson on the cheap. If given the same burn and attempts, Gordon gets roughly 90% of the numbers of Johnson at 33% of the price. Thing is though, I’d look elsewhere first if I was Atlanta. Gordon is 6’3", and he and Teague would make for a tiny backcourt. Anyway, just sharing my thoughts. Am I insane? Let a brother know. Just be gentle, I’m fragile.
Good luck tonight. I predict that the Hawks will stomp my Pistons, because my Pistons— they suck.
Wow. That's a whole lot of work!
I like the forward thinking, but there is no way they will gut that much.
I love getting Al to the PF, but if they keep Al and trade Josh, the fans will riot (for some reason).
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Mainly because Josh Smith is more valuable than Al, in my opinion of course
We can survive without Al, but I think we would be a mediocre team if the tables were turned and we had lost Josh and not Al
by BravesFanScout on Jan 27, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know if we'd get a #4 pick for Josh Smith in a strong draft
We weren’t able to get the #2 pick in a weak draft for him over the summer.
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
Looking at how Williams has started, I reckon the T'Wolves might be kicking themselves they didn't pull the trigger on that one
The Hawks may have dodged a bullet.
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
The T-Wolves turned that down?
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know if we’d get a #4 pick for Josh Smith in a strong draft
I originally had this idea as Detroit and Atlanta playing trade partners. My thought was that only Anthony Davis matches up well with Greg Monroe, and if Detroit can’t nab him we could trade the pick to bring in the right pairing for Monroe. My first thought was Josh Smith, as his above-the-rim, shot-blocky, big D style would be the ideal complement.
If I was Detroit’s GM, I’d consider moving our first round pick + either Maxiell or Villanueva for Smith and Atlanta’s first rounder.
With the way the ASG work their transactions, I don't know if they'd worry so much about improving for the future
Case in point – Your #1 point on your post about the Hawks rebuilding. You get the feeling the Hawks ownership aren’t so worried about building for the future as much as the present (a possible by-product of them looking to off-load the team).
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
Wishful thinking but that won't fly around these parts.
First of all, your scenario has to many wheels for this ownership and management to digest. Over the past 5 or 6 years, the Hawks have made marginal changes to the roster each year. This offseason was the busiest we’ve seen around these parts since they stripped the roster in 2004.
Then, Josh Smith is having a really good year without Al Horford. So if he continues that, he becomes even more important to the Hawks future and less of a liability. So if the Hawks didn’t trade him last year, he won’t get traded before next year’s trade deadline when he would be in the last year of his contract.
Joe Johnson isn’t getting amnestied anytime soon. Marvin Williams would be the prime target for an amnesty if the Hawks felt the urge to do it. And again, Williams is playing really good now and probably has killed the amnesty talks for now.
The Hawks don’t want Ben Gordan. That was your squads bad signing.
And the Hawks team is too strong to blow up this year. If there are roster shakeups in the Hawks future, it would after next season when Josh would be looking for an extension or set to be a restricted free agent in Summer 2013.
Josh would be looking for an extension or set to be a restricted free agent in Summer 2013.
Josh Smith is an unrestricted free agent in 2013.
Josh Smith is having a really good year without Al Horford.
Which is precisely why you should seek to get the most value out of him while you can.
Joe Johnson isn’t getting amnestied anytime soon. Marvin Williams would be the prime target for an amnesty
This is entirely baffling. The Hawks will be paying a 34-year-old Joe Johnson $25M in 2015/16 when he’s barely worth a 3rd of that amount today. $107M in cap-clogging salary hell, and the Hawks would amnesty Williams? I don’t mean to knock Joe Johnson and I don’t want to offend anyone here, I’m just amazed at the Hawks’ management.
Thanks for the correction. I meant unrestricted.
The contract is always the starting point when talking about Joe, but his play this season shows why he is so important to the Hawks at this stage. And the Hawks owners are definitely not gonna amnesty Joe if they still have to pay him whether he is in a Hawks uniform or not.
Just to let you know
The Hawks never offered that to Minn
ASG will not Amnesty JJ
They’re too cheap to be stuck paying his contract while he’s not playing, and still filling out a roster. And Rick Sund isn’t going to admit he made a mistake with that move.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
That sucks. With the way the amnesty system works, the sooner the better it’d be for the Hawks payroll. The worst-record teams get a chance to bid on the player first, and I could absolutely see Cleveland and Minnesota raising the rates quite a bit (since they both sorely need a versatile veteran wing). The more the post-amnesty teams spend on that player, the less the organization has to continue to pay.
Is it just me, or is anyone else enamoured with Greg Monroe's game?
Maybe it’s because he has a similar game to Al,with a greater post presence.
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
At least you have a young center which to build a team around
And not trying to be a smartass, but the Pistons are going to need a lot more pieces around him to be a contender again.
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
Or maybe William Bedford
I’m sure he’d still be fit playing in the prison league
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
Otis Thorpe
There are not enough Otis’ in the world today
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
With today's Pistons
it would be Otis Daye and the Knights
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
At least you have a young center which to build a team around
Very true.
And not trying to be a smartass, but the Pistons are going to need a lot more pieces around him to be a contender again.
No doubt. Detroit isn’t even rebuilding yet. We still have to get out of our horrible contracts before we can begin to rebuild. Sadly, Detroit has the worst GM in the league right now, and the new owner seems to be pretty invested in him…
I remember when people had the impression that Dumars was thebest young GM in the league
His moves of late have baffled somewhat though. You don’t want to bad mouth the man because he such an upstanding guy.
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
In his defense, Darko is now developing into a serviceable player.
The potential was there.
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Some...but he is doing OK in Minny.
Playing next to Love probably helps.
And I am not saying he is great…but he is not terrible.
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You're just so encapsulated by Kevin love that anyone who gets caught in his aura doesn't look half bad too ;P
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
If you are in Kevin Love's gravitational pull, I will bow at your feet.
And now I just say it to perpetuate the meme.
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Darko I forgive
Charlie V’s contract and Ben Gordon’s contract are unforgivable.
Darko is a classic example of how a coach can undermine a young player. Was he a bad pick given who went after him? Sure, but I credit Larry Brown with trying to pound the square peg into a round hole and setting him back years.
At least halftime before I get to watch this one
you guys pull them through
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The Hawks have a good chance of landing Kenyon Martin for the vet minimum.
Kenyon’s targets are Atl, Miami, San Antonio, NY, and LA Clips. He wants a sizeable role on a contending team. While NY and LA can offer 2.5 mini-midlevel, NY isn’t a contender right now and Atlanta can offer a larger role than LA, Miami,or San Antonio.
I'd welcome him here for cheap and as a backup.
I do think he’d help.
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Compared to other players available for a similar price, he's far and away the best option available
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
Not that it matters
but I think he and Josh are good friends
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
Don't we have the MLE to work with
I don’t like our chances at the vet minimum, but if we pay a little more I have hope.
The Hawks should but...
that would put the Hawks into the luxury tax. But the at the vet minimum, the Hawks could just release Pargo or Stackhouse and still be under the tax.
Is "Atlanta Double Teams Tiago Splitter"
an official meme yet?
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
haha
“Atlanta, where we rotate.”
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Atlanta: The City to Busy to Rotate
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Atlanta: If the Sixers can play small ball, so can we.
Should be one of Rick Perry’s unpopular opinions, imo.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Damien Wilkins gets a trip-dub, you heard it here first.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
From the pregame
It was playing the Pistons last year that gave Sund the idea to pursue McGrady. Which leads me to believe that next year we’re going after Matt Bonner.
Dammit
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 7:43 PM EST reply actions
1st ballot hall of famer, not kidding.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
If Reggie Miller is not a 1st ballot HOFer
Wallace isn’t
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
good shot Joe >.>
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Maybe the Hawks can't communicate with all this CROWD NOISE
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
timeout LD, TIMEOUT, BE A COACH
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
oh what fresh hell is this
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
haha "there you go, knock it down!" after the whistle.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Don't tell me Stuckey is all of a sudden going to find his shooting touch again
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
Brandon Knight channeling Isaih Thomas. . .falling to the ground dribbling
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Detroit bailing LD out with a dumb timeout
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Is there any other reason why Zaza should start??
he is a career bench big
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
yes!
Zaza’s better on offense, but he chokes when he starts
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
uh
you must be joking about Collins – seriously. And maybe you haven’t watched the last few games, even tonight – he was vastly better and I’m being kind by saying vastly. Collins is part of the reason we almost lost. Sure, didn’t stop a damn thing when he was in the game.
Hawk Str8Talk
by Hawk Str8Talk on Jan 27, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't that the reason Collins had been starting before?
Like I said, Pachulia’s a good bench big…..when he went to the bench and came back he played a lil better. It’s like the bench revived him…he found an old friend. I guess you didn’t see how Zaza was getting abused earlier and then Collins came in and the game was managable. But then again everyone here has selective viewing.
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
We're making them look like the 2004 Pistons defense out there
Atlanta Sports: Allergic to big games
Watching Kirk on defense is like watching a waterfall.
So beautiful.
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hes too old he cant defend anymore
Ivan Johnson does not buy ground beef, he just takes a whole cow, runs it through his beard, and fully cooked hamburgers come out.
by Throw on Jan 27, 2012 7:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
we never seem to play good here
Ivan Johnson does not buy ground beef, he just takes a whole cow, runs it through his beard, and fully cooked hamburgers come out.
by Throw on Jan 27, 2012 7:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Superman does good...
We do well.
/Grammar nazi
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by Duff_Man on Jan 27, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HOW IS THAT A BLOCKING FOUL? WTF.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
/CaptainKirk picture
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
ever since Stuckey's been point
detroit hasn’t gone anywhere. But he always give Atlanta guards fits
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
lol "shoot the ball"
NOW can someone entertain the idea of Joe retiring his jersey in ATL?
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
if zaza isn't mad enough
he’s no good to start. why do you think collins had been starting and why pachulia’s out now?
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
Has Jason Collins looked better
Jason Collins looks like uselesslness made human.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
Sure he is
maybe in an alternate universe, where Jason Collins has some athletic ability
no troll here
it’s common sense. Zaza is not consistent enough to start
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
Ideally, Horford would be starting
But he’s not, so Zaza is. Zaza is better than Collins, which is the real point here. Zaza is always better than Collins.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
could have fooled me
both are equally worthless if Zaza isn’t producing, hence why he’s not in. I’m not debating whether Zaza’s better or not. But he is, at this point, not producing.
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
It's an ongoing experiment. Put 7 foot talentless bodies in the game and see what happens
Atlanta Sports: Allergic to big games
thabeet wouldd make the difference
Ivan Johnson does not buy ground beef, he just takes a whole cow, runs it through his beard, and fully cooked hamburgers come out.
by Throw on Jan 27, 2012 8:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Collins
F*** that S***
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 8:04 PM EST reply actions
15 points. 9 turnovers.
Glad that quarter’s over
nice veteran move, Taco
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
For as bad a quarter we just had, we're only down 2.
That speaks to how truly bad the Pistons are
Atlanta Sports: Allergic to big games
Just wait until the 3rd quarter.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Ugh, all these Paul Pierce wannabes with their head fake stutter steps
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
woah, that just happened
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
because that turnover the play before should have seen his butt on the pine
For Marvin Williams, who should be taking his minutes anyway
That foul is Offensive
Austin Daye
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 8:12 PM EST reply actions
Generic 6'8 230 lb. forward
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Tmac Attack
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 8:13 PM EST reply actions
It's funny
When VladRad vs Marvin becomes an argument.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Well with Collins healthy we have one solid center but I get your drift
Atlanta Sports: Allergic to big games
The Hawks specialize
in lazy entry passes to the post
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 8:18 PM EST reply actions
Marvin with the strong rebound. and in with the backups, except McGrady
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
Where is PointGuardSlim when you need him?
Who’s going to point our we’re too small? Me? I can’t bring myself to do it.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
I'm right here. Consider the Competition.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
My point exactly.
I mean, Jason Maxiel is bullying us? Gimme a break.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
somehow Marvin is displaying some competence.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
He can shoot.
He is not always aggressive, but he can always shoot.
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Nice performace by Hinrich as he goes to the bench
3 assists in 10 mins. Solid play from a back up PG.
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
Looks like the ball movement is starting to come again, for all the Hawks
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
Now if only Marvin and TMac could play at the same time
in the second unit, with no Willie Green. alas…
Don't know what to make of this game
but i do know that when Josh shoots we lose momentum
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
Maxiell with 10 points already
That’s about right
AWWW WHAT A GRITTY GAME, REMINDS ME OF THE PATRIOTS AND GRAWNK
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
I often wonder what would happen if we had given Marvin iso touches (ala Joe/Lebron) early in his career.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
I hope this is like a twilight zone game
where our third quarter is awesome and every other quarter is terrible
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Jason Maxiell is a 28 year old 6 foot 6 inch 257lb PF with a 7'3.25 wingspan.
@draftexpress What’s most drastic difference you’ve ever seen between height & wingspan?
@benariweixlmann Jason Maxiell. 6-5 w/out shoes, 7-3 wingspan.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
You mean open shots? Hell, I could make at least half of those.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
yea hes not that good
I doubt this continues
Oh, say it ain't so, Joe
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
That's the thing though, they're not effing around
They really are trying.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Joe wtf
stop shooting that mess
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 8:35 PM EST reply actions
Well I thought things couldn't get worse than the 1st quarter
But then the 2nd quarter happened. Time for LD to make adjustments (gasp!)
Atlanta Sports: Allergic to big games
This is sad, mainly because the Pistons blow!
Do the Hawks have bad chemistry with Kirk? They struggled when he was playing last year, except for the Orlando series.
everyone's playing one on one
and passing up people who are open
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
why is Amare Stoudemire suddenly terrible?
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
bad knees are bad
well atleast thats the theory, i think its a lack of solid PG play personally, and Carmelo iso killing his flow
Amnesty Joe
Zaza can’t catch
Teague is overrated
Trade Kirk
/end scene
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 8:39 PM EST reply actions
We’re not amnestying Joe
We need Zaza, he’s our only capable center
Teague is essentially in his rookie year, since we didn’t play him before
Trade Kirk only for good value
Atlanta Sports: Allergic to big games
It was a sarcastic rant
and yes I know there is a sarcasm font
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
Is it me?
Or is it everytime the bench comes in and moves the ball and gets scores….the starters mess it up with one on one play
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
I think the team is still adjusting to Kirk
Pargo and Green had roles and the roles and rotations have all changed now. Second time after Lion went out. All while Kirk is still not in top form. And Teague minutes are now totally changed
I dare say Pargo was grittier than Kirk
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
No I would never put Pargo in the same category
Kirk is a player. Just not in top form and team had gotten used to Teague, and now Teague is again unsure of his role, which is what many of us were afraid of
Pargo was redeeming himself with his scoring and defense wasn't as bad as reputed. He was in a groove.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
In no universe is Pargo grittier than Kirk
Pargo wins at two things – playing on a cheap, non-guaranteed contract, and shooting without a conscience.
i agree with that
it’s almost as if Kirk was thrown back into action.
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
I hope LD is smashing chairs against lockers in the locker room after that half of play
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
nooo, that'd disturb his nap
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
by JohnWebb on Jan 27, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LD trying to get angry
would be like Tony Dungy cussing out his players
Atlanta Sports: Allergic to big games
well just checking in on my phone
Glad I’m missing this one so far
Ivan Johnson does not buy ground beef, he just takes a whole cow, runs it through his beard, and fully cooked hamburgers come out.
by Throw on Jan 27, 2012 8:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Lebron with the Baron Davis fro-beard
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
I agree.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Right on cue, Joe!
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
we back pedal way too much
everyone’s on their heels when on defense. That’s not good form
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
wow Marvin operating a pick and roll. When does that pick and roll up the middle ever work for us? Its always one side clear outs so the roller can roll.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
Dribble Dribble Dribble
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
the early offense layup would have never happened...
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
Monroe misses a post up. Smith plays Barkley with the pass.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
You and me both, my friend.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Seriously, has Amare just forgotten how to score?
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Also, maybe it's because he's sharing space with Tyson?
But the Suns had Robin Lopez, right? And Tony Douglas is an alright PG, imo
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Also, JJJJJJJJJJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOE
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Didn't need that timeout
Hopefully we can keep the momentum out of the timeout.
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
*A Josh jumper is the real momentum killer, I don't do English good
Atlanta Sports: Allergic to big games
Josh....YOU ARE NOT A JUMP SHOOTER
Are we naming things Josh isn’t?
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Did Josh run and outlet to Zaza?
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
No...Josh does not outlet to anyone.
Dribbling all the way down the court and then passing is NO an outlet.
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I retract my call about starting Kirk for the 2nd half
Keep it up JJ!
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
Pistons are grabbing their umbrellas, we're raining down 3 on them
Atlanta Sports: Allergic to big games
Pistons are grabbing their umbrellas, we're raining down 3 on them
Atlanta Sports: Allergic to big games
Awww skeet skeet
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Now all we need is the Money Shot
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOE JOHNSON
MY HERO
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Teague!
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
DANGIT TEAGUE
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
I'm guessing it's a calf strain (tennis leg)
out 3-6 weeks
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Foot dribble for the loss
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
We've gotta find a way to win this with or without Jeff
Don’t care if Joe shoots every trip down
Marvin with the inside out on Jerebko on the break. And gets the star call!
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
Two nights ago: "Has Bonner missed a shot?"
Two nights from now: “Has Ariza missed a shot?”
That joke took me a while to dig up.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
We're not in a good place if we're okay with a close loss to Detroit. . .
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Dare I ask
what did I miss besides an injury to Teague
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Marvin playing very well again
Getting no respect.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
small ball
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Monroe hit for 6-8 that quarter too
Have to get someone working against him on the low block.
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
WE sure could use an other big body that can play
Their bigs are killing us – Smoove and Marvin are exhausted
Did a Bad Josh imitation, last time I saw him
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
"We’ve never been a tax-paying team, and our goal is to hopefully not pay the tax," Sund said. "But you never say never (if you want to keep your job)."
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Im lagging, but Jason Collins boxing out
Instead of actually going after the basketball, is why hes an awful basketball player
J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-JOOOOOOOOOOOOOE JOHNSON
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
We got a post up? What?!
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
JOE JOE JOE AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN MORE MORE MORE
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Just to be safe, just make that prediction for the whole game and not the second half from now on ^.^
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Wait a minute Jason Collins is Still playing?
somebody shoot me
I see the inevitable domino effect of losing Al is everyone has to plays harder and longer just to stay in games and injury risk goes up.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
Josh Smith
is more of a center than Jason Collins
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
wow we made a run?
I’m actually surprised
Ivan Johnson does not buy ground beef, he just takes a whole cow, runs it through his beard, and fully cooked hamburgers come out.
by Throw on Jan 27, 2012 9:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
MC says Teague got his ankle re-taped and he may return
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No decision made yet but they said he walked to locker room with a slight limp
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Great, now we have two memes
“We double team Tiago Splitter.”
“Jason Maxiell is Wilt Chamberlain.”
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
If I were Ld
I would seriously take out Collins right now and put in Marvin. Let Josh play center.
Needless to say, I lack the credentials of an NBA coach.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
Marvin is the Hawks' leading rebounder right now
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
Josh at the 5 Marv at the 4
Just play small, its worked for other teams, i see no reason why it wont work for ATL
McGrady just got raped on that layup try....
how do refs not see that shit? It feels like we get screwed more by refs than most teams
Thats how you run a screen play Larry Drew. Clear out 1 side and 2 man game. Ridiculous. Nothing easy for us.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
this is going to happen every night
until Sund does something
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
Chase that mythical center that is magically available for the league minimum?
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His name is
Shatrick Olajuamberlain
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I can't believe that didn't take you 5 minutes to type
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
kill themselves
if they refuse to go over the tax to aquire there own draft pick
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
With 7 minutes left
will the hawks push the pace? or will they do a Iso-Joe special?
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
Joe post up.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
JJJJJJJJJJJ
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Jason Collins catches a great feed from Josh
Has it blocked.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
Josh made the right play there. Jason Collins is still Jason Collins.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
then he bricks a 3. Get back Josh
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Why is Marvin Williams still on the bench?
Oh i see Tracy is on the court #cantplaytogether
Bad Josh. So, so bad.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
He was exhausted.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Zaza hits a jumper
thus making him more useful offensively in one possession than Jason Collins in an entire game.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
I think we are going to lose tonight...
But I do love the effort. It’s just one of those nights.
by teedub on Jan 27, 2012 9:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
MC just reported that Teague is out for the rest of the night
probably the right call
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Hack a Max?
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
Bill Walker beating the Heat
lol
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Matter of fact, Posting and Toasting said in their pregame that Billy is always locked in vs Lebron, so that's funny
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Smith misses long jumper. Stuckey hits.
That hurts
Game.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
Kirk hits the 3.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
why do people keep passing to Josh?
He’s in one of those modes where every ball he gets he shoots
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
as bad as he is off the dribble I think he could have slashed to the rim there.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Did you guys see him holding that shoulder in that battle for the rebound?
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no just exhausted
it is interesting that LD insists on playing him all these minutes, i think Pargo could have had 2-3 minutes
That is why he was flexing his arm and shoulder
are you honestly advocating putting Pargo in at this juncture?
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could have went with T-Mac or Joe at the point I suppose
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So Kirk gets clotheslined and that's no call? why?
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
that's what i want to know
the refs have been sorry all game
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
The refs know they will be robbed when they leave arena
they are just making sure they aren’t killed
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That was Kirk's "I can't believe we're about to lose to the Pistons" angry flex
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
LD sucks. He should be on the court Gettin
T’d up!!!
by teedub on Jan 27, 2012 9:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This game is lost. He has got to step up
These Hawks deserve it. They’ve fought hard tonight, but Drew continues to let the refs disrespect.
by teedub on Jan 27, 2012 9:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Im just going off of what you guys are saying
Leaguepass/internet has destroyed my lag
That's one hell of a quarter
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
no down 69-52 in the fourth
my bad for not being clearer
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you were clear enough
You just understimated my smart-ass-titude
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
I thought they scored 52 IN the 4th. . .but wow.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Damn
"People in this country used to look at a successful person and ask what can I do to have that kind of sucess. Now a lot of people look at a successful person and ask what can I do to take what he has."
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LOL
so calm
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Iso FCCKING JOE
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON
JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON JOE JOHNSON
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
by Bronn on Jan 27, 2012 9:53 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
THATS WHAT HE GETS PAID FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THATS WHAT HE GETS PAID FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THATS WHAT HE GETS PAID FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THATS WHAT HE GETS PAID FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
McGrady just on the bench injured/disinterested.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
RETIRE HIS JERSEY. HE IS THE MAN. YES. YES. THANK YOU FOR JUSTIFYING ME. THANK YOU LORD.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
fccckkk dont make this
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
Amnesty deeez
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 9:54 PM EST reply actions
wait we wearing the red unis?
Okay I’m starting to understand
Ivan Johnson does not buy ground beef, he just takes a whole cow, runs it through his beard, and fully cooked hamburgers come out.
by Throw on Jan 27, 2012 9:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Now we've got all the momentum
Time to steal this win
Overtime = Free Basketball. Make it good Hawks.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
Up six and Detroit just completely didn't guard Marvin Williams
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We are just visitors
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You have to find him and he has to make a move amongst taller defenders. Thats rare,
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
We won't lay an egg in the overtime
I believe!
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
what the hell is happening
Ivan Johnson does not buy ground beef, he just takes a whole cow, runs it through his beard, and fully cooked hamburgers come out.
by Throw on Jan 27, 2012 9:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
whew
Joe three with 1.9 left tied it and sent it to overtime
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Joooooooooooooooooooooe
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Larry Drew's offense is terrible. That is all.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
Josh near a triple double
Hopefully he doesn’t go all JaVale McGee/Ricky Davis on us
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
Ah, poor mortals.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
+2
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
I'll see your Wilt Maxiell
and raise you a Joe Freaking Johnson
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 9:59 PM EST reply actions
Well done good sir
Atlanta Sports: Allergic to big games
by Beachy Keen on Jan 27, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Wow we are actually getting calls now
two fouls on one trip
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Wow Smith showing a crossover and a jump pass. But that pass is dangerous.
Howd Zaza dunk, missed it,
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 10:01 PM EST reply actions
ZAZA jajajajaj
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Zaza. He cares not for this idle slate.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
hes been a 40 percent three point shooter on the year
and for the life for me i can not understand why he and Tracy cant just play at the same time
OK Marvin OK!
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 10:02 PM EST reply actions
He took his time on that one and no one bothered his shot.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
Josh is two rebounds and two assists shy of a triple
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
Smoove's contributed, but that's the last thing they should worry about
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Pargo has probably checked out on the season. We have to find ways to win without a center. Out west it will be hard.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
I love T-Mac
But this is why I think Marvin should play more late in games
Atlanta Sports: Allergic to big games
+1
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
its honestly not even a debate
Marvin Williams is just a better basketball player
Josh hits a three. Detroit immediately forfeits.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
WHAT A GAME
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
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Team effort
Zaza has been big as well
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Alright Smooooooooooooooove
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
no. don't need selfish sideshow acts more likely playing for a next contract than trying to win.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Well do we need a big or not?
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Remember when we were down 6 with 30 secs
I won’t forget it for a while
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by Beachy Keen on Jan 27, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Healthy Joe Johson folks and a clutch J-Smoove this season?
These ain’t my daddy Hawks. Nor my Hawks from last season.
I feel horrible for Pistons fans.
this is just as bad as our Chicago and Miami losses.
by Bryant Singleton on Jan 27, 2012 10:05 PM EST reply actions
worse, actually
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
They fell asleep on one possession and it cost them
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Kirk with the smart play. Saw it all develop
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 10:06 PM EST reply actions
Splitz!
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 10:06 PM EST reply actions
Man, what is WRONG with Orlando this past week and a half?
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Roller Coaster ride of late
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
But scoring under 60 in two different games? I mean, jeesh.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
I know, hard to say how much the Howard things is becoming a distraction
Could SVG be in trouble?
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
It's really a tough situation for him
And Otis Smith has made bad personel decisions (J Rich, Turk, Big Baby for Bass, etc.)
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by Beachy Keen on Jan 27, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
In the scheme of the entire NBA they only have one 2-way player and a bunch of 1-way role players. Shoddy roster
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Beautiful
isn’t it?
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
I really have no idea
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
faking because hes checked out. Unhappy with minutes. Saw it coming.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
yep I'm sure that is it
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be ready to trade everyone if I was a Pistons fan after this game
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wait we won?!?!?!
I thought we were down 6 with a minute and half left?
Ivan Johnson does not buy ground beef, he just takes a whole cow, runs it through his beard, and fully cooked hamburgers come out.
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that’s what you get for thinking
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
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I hope you set your DVR, just watch the second half
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
And JJ has 30. BOOM, there's my man!
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Also, Lebron deferring in the fourth quarter in typical Lebron style.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Horrible loss for Detroit
Great win for Atlanta
by Bryant Singleton on Jan 27, 2012 10:11 PM EST reply actions
+1
They had Miami down too. Hopefully those days are over for us.
by jdewayneatl on Jan 27, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Marvin 20+
when was the last time that happened?
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 10:12 PM EST reply actions
It's amazing just how horrible JJ was in the first half of this game
1-9 shooting, 2 points.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
Guys, we need a team chant for times like these. Something to rival "Dee-troit basketball".
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 10:13 PM EST reply actions
LEU-ER! LEU-ER! LEU-ER!
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by NajehDavenpoop on Jan 27, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
Uh oh.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
+1
I’m exhausted and I only watched half of it
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Favorite game of the season so far, besides the Miami / Chicago wins.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
JOE IS THE FREAKING MAN.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
+1
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
We move into first in the Southeast with a Heat loss
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by Beachy Keen on Jan 27, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
hahahaha yes
Ivan Johnson does not buy ground beef, he just takes a whole cow, runs it through his beard, and fully cooked hamburgers come out.
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Side note.
As a Georgia Tech student who saw Iman Shumpert in person for 3 years, I was completely shocked by the Knick picking him in the first round. Yes he’s athletic and can defend, but his ball handling and shooting are atrocious. He shouldn’t be near a starting lineup at this point
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Honestly i like him on the Knicks
playing the 2 guard, he wasnt a PG at Tech and he isnt one now
I can only see him a defense first 2 guard
Best case scenario Tony Allen for example. The Knicks shouldn’t be running the offense through him, but are due to necessity
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by Beachy Keen on Jan 27, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
I hope he does well.
I used to work with his cousin, but yeah. First round?
by RamblininAlb on Jan 28, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
That was a make-up for the Heat game....
Bosh shouldn’t have hit his 3 and Joe shouldn’t have hit his.
True true
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by Beachy Keen on Jan 27, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Minnesota took out San Anton
Too hard to pick the games this year
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
Chris Kaman is officially available
Im thinking hes the best option to trade for. He can replace Horford
The Hawks have nothing to offer
honestly i’d like Kaman to but they just dont have any valuable assets
Is that this year's salary?
If it is I didn’t realize he was making that much
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
gonna go read the detroit blog
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No problem
he’s a better option than Kenyon Martin imo
Certainly
but he would likely come with a much bigger price tag.
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Adrian Wojnarowski talking about Kaman on Twitter
“Hornets asking price for Kaman too high. “They were asking for draft picks, cap space and a young player,” one executive says."
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Me too if he is healthy
but we are talking about Kaman and not Gordon
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
For an injury prone player..
that is way too much.
I agree but there is a premium on true centers around the league
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Well the Hornets know they aren't going anywhere
They don’t have to be in any hurry to ship out Kaman. They can take it all the way to the trade deadline before the dropping the asking price.
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
Woj reported that Utah checked in on Kaman and what I posted above was the asking price
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
haha
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't realize this but..
Zaza had a fairly quiet 16 & 9 night
and played really well I thought down the stretch
I don’t know about the first half, haven’t watched it yet
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
He was decent in the first half..
He was pretty effective the whole game. Marvin was surprising too.. I think part of that was getting better minutes
Another I only just realised
The Hawks dropped 20 points in 5 min of OT.
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
The funny thing is
Detroit had 2 points in OT until they started hitting all of those threes
Detroit fouling also helped pad that total
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Atlanta was 17-25 from the line
they hit them when it really mattered though
Is there any news on Teague??
I may have missed this since the game didnt come on in Columbia & I’m forced to watch online
re-evaluated tomorrow I believe
The AJC is sending someone to New Orleans so maybe we will be able to find out
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
South Carolina?
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
SVG post game quote
“It’s the three worst losses I think we’ve had since I’ve been here in a matter of five days, so it’s tough to take.”
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone there is going down if Howard leaves
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
They can't win a title with that roster...
and D12 rumors are hurting that team.
They were playing great for a stretch also
then it all seems to have fallen apart
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Jameer Nelson has been awful
and so has basically every basketball player on that team not named Anderson
They can just build the team around Ryan Anderson
(please note the sarcasm).
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
Man look at the box score
other than Howard and Reddick, nobody had more than 5 Points
My #1 wish on my Hawks Wishlist..
Joe announces he’s willing to renegotiate his contract to get a player like Howard..
The NBA doesn't allow that
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Once you sign then that is the terms of the deal
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
yep
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
I was really looking forward to having Teague and Kirk..
in the same back court….Damn!
I think we will see it at some point
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Hawks' 20 points in overtime tied a franchise record
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Anybody watch the season debut of The Association?
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Yea
They couldn’t have picked a better team. I love watching George Karl coach
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
Knicks bought into the superstar hype. Gallinari = Carmelo in a lot of ways IMO. Gave up too much to a "rookie" GM. funny.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
I like Karl too
when he was having his contract squabble with the Nuggets a few years ago I was dreaming that he might end up in Atlanta.
I liked what he said when talking about the superstars joining up on one team. He said that wasn’t likely to happen in Denver so they tried to get a top 10 player at each position and combine that with a top 10 bench. So far it is working for them.
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
They are a well run organization
A smart, young GM
a great coach
players who look like they have fun playing with each other
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
That is what stands out the most
That is one thing about this Hawks team that I didn’t notice last season. They seem like they are having fun playing together. Last year we fold at the end of the fourth in this one I feel.
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
True
I like to watch players reactions on the court after a foul or dunk etc. They all seem invested into each other. When Josh commits a foul, T-Mac complains to the refs. When Zaza falls someone runs over to help him. It’s nice to see
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Was it wrong for me to want Al Harrington back after that win over Miami?
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
I’d rather have The Big Dog back
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Now there is a guy I haven't thought about in a long time
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
It's such a great nickname
It’s simple and fits him to a tee
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 27, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of Harrington
He and Linas Kleiza just almost came to blows. Harrington looked like he picked up Rudy Fernandez and threw him at Kleiza
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
I was on a flight with him once, a few years back
A row back of him and across the aisle, so I was just eavesdropping on his conversation, but he was fascinating to listen to. Fun to watch him breaking down tape, too.
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awesome
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Jan 28, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
uhm….Association=NBA 2k12?(lol)
#clueless
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Its a series on NBA TV where they go behind the scenes with a team
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From the AJC blogs:
DID ANYONE ELSE SEE LAWRENCE FRANK AND JSMOOVE STARING DOWN EACH OTHER IN THE 2ND HALF? IT WAS A BREAK IN PLAY AND THEY WERE ICE GRILLING EACH OTHER – Grandmaster Jeje
Don’t know if its true but there was a break in the play (free throws I think) where Smith and Frank were both trying to work over a ref.
I just thought to myself “Josh does more coaching/coaxing the refs than Larry Drew” it was surreal.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 11:15 PM EST reply actions
needless to say Smith's isn't getting that coach's vote for the All Star Game. lol
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
I saw that but I didnt' think they were staring at each other
Looked like to me they were both complaining to the ref or Smoove was just listening to what Frank was saying.
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
If that was the sequence that he was talking about
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by Kris Willis on Jan 27, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah that would have been an awesome twist of Josh's career thus far. Getting in an opposing coach's instead of his own coach's for a change.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
The last thing we need is Kaman ending up on an Eastern contender imo. Unless they give up key pieces. That said, what Eastern team would trade for Kaman?
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 11:22 PM EST reply actions
Ok I am out guys, great game thread.
Wish I hadn’t missed the first half.
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New Orleans frontcourt is gonna kill us I just know it. Carl Landry a real "Power" Forward and Okafor a solid C. Hope he dont drop 20 and 20 and hope we win. We'll see.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 11:41 PM EST reply actions
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* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
lack of guard play. Any team with solid bigs give us trouble in the paint and keeping Smith out of the paint.
Not expecting a cakewalks in New Orleans.
Best players according to Win Shares Per 48.
Carl Landry
Jarrett Jack
Emeka Okafor
Watch out for Gustavo Ayon too. Mix of Scola and Al. Plays smart backdoor cuts and doesnt miss,
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
nothing more sobering than watching SportsCenter waiting for Hawks highlights
Joe’s shot to tie the game doesn’t make top plays but 3 separate Miami dunks do. Never actually saw Hawks highlights. Sad.
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Quote from LD
"To me it’s just an unbelievable win," Atlanta coach Larry Drew said. "It was a gutsy performance. We were literally dead in the water."
Literally?
Ivan Johnson - the new Xavier McDaniel
he thought it was going to come down to him coaching rather than Iso Joe,
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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by PointGuardSlim on Jan 28, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Wow. Same night as Marvin goes off. The white joe johnson did something notable against the Chicago Cows. Hate to say it but with those inconsistent minutes his coach is gone.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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by PointGuardSlim on Jan 28, 2012 12:55 AM EST reply actions
A bit of coverage from MC at ajc
This was similar to the Milwaukee game: Awful start, great finish. "I wish it could be a little earlier," Josh Smith said. "I would rather have the lead than try to claw back into it and do it the way we did it. But a win is a win. I’ll take it."
The Hawks did it behind Joe Johnson’s 28 points after halftime. There are times when Johnson doesn’t have it and focuses on drawing doubles and swinging the ball. This time, he just kept doing his thing until he found his rhythm.
"The second half I just wanted to be aggressive," he said. "It was do or die. We had to put up or shut up. Guys came out and made big plays and gave ourselves a chance in overtime. I just wanted to validate that and be aggressive and make plays not only for myself but my teammates."
Marvin came off the bench and made the big 3-pointer but Drew sent him in for defense. "I wanted to get more active defensively and they were scoring with posting [Greg] Monroe," Drew said. "We were going to double team him and getting into rotations, and I wanted someone a little more mobile out there."
Marvin played 35 minutes and delivered with his best game in a while: season-high 22 points on nine shots and eight rebounds.
More evidence of Atlanta’s lack of depth in the front court: Monroe, Jason Maxiell and even Austin Daye gave the Hawks problems in the paint. There were times the Hawks cross-matched Josh on Monroe and Twin on Maxiell. That’s just not a good situation.
http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2012/01/27/atlanta-hawks-hawks-107-pistons-101/?cxntfid=blogs_hawks
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
It would be sadly ironic if Chris Kaman has better health than Bogut going forward in his NBA career.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}
Without looking it up
Feels like Kaman has played just about as much as Bogut but I figure you have the exact numbers
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BEATING A DEAD ASS HORSE ....
WE may win the game tomorrow but we gotta have an inside big…zAzA is AWESOME (coming off the bench) Twin actually is a space eater but I believe what he contributes on offense actually benefits the OPPOSITION (missed layups, three second violations, etc)…we have valuable trade pieces but at the same time, I believe when Al returns the new C will be good enough to allow him to move to pf(thus the title)…..
Kaman would be nice but not for the alleged asking price…get a third team involved? maybe….btw….2 irrelevant questions……THINK WE SHOULD LOOK INTO BRIAN COOK?(saw him and his massive ears on the knicks bench)
WHATEVER became of SOLOMON JONES?(just curious)
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by I am usually right except when... on Jan 28, 2012 11:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Brian Cook = Why?
Solomon Jones is with the Clippers. I don’t see either of the two changing anything for the Hawks
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by Kris Willis on Jan 29, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
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