Hawks Request Waivers On Rookie Guard Donald Sloan
The Atlanta Hawks made a roster move today requesting waivers on rookie point guard Donald Sloan. Sloan appeared in five games for the Hawks and averaged 1.2 points, 1.0 assists per game. By cutting Sloan, the Hawks salary figure dips slightly below the luxury tax threshold.
Sloan became expendable with the return of Kirk Hinrich to the active roster. The Hawks point guard rotation has Jeff Teague entrenched as the starter with Hinrich as the backup. Jannero Pargo figures to slide out of the rotation once Hinrich is completely 100 percent.
Before joining the Hawks in training camp, Sloan played five games for the Erie Bayhawks in the NBA Development league averaging 24.8 points and 8.4 assists per game. He played in 49 games with Reno during the 2010-11 season and finished with averages of 10.7 points and 4.4 assists.
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I'm glad we got a little bit of Sloan Time
before he was cut
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 26, 2012 3:24 PM EST reply actions
Since this move gets them below the tax
I think one more person has to go before they add anyone else. According to shamsports.com they are so close to the tax I could be wrong.
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I think that the Hawks could trade Pargo.
But Stackhouse would be the next to go if the Hawks were to pick up a player.
I don't have anything other than my gut telling me this
but I bet they hang on to Stack all year. If Kirk is healthy then Pargo might be in danger but that is just speculation on my part. They may in fact choose to ride it out the way it is right now or could pursue a trade.
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Unless there is some absolute assurance that Teague and Kirk can stay healthy for the rest of the season and the playoffs...
keeping Pargo is a really good safety net. So I can kinda have the same feeling about Stackhouse, simply because he’s still here now lol. But if it came down to Stackhouse and Pargo, basketball and financial knowledge says Stackhouse should be the odd man out. Who knows what Rick Sund is up to though. I didn’t have any of the moves he has done this season in mind at all. And I am sure not many others have either.
Willie is a shooter...
Judging from his play thus far, I don’t think he could be effective distributing the ball. That’s just my judgement tho.
But he can't guard point guards.
Besides that, Drew has not used the big lineup with McGrady, JJ, and Marvin Williams yet.
For what?
I’m 100000% positive nobody is trading for Jannero Pargo. Kirk, yes…Pargo, not in a million years. Actually better yet – not anyone we want coming close to the floor.
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by Hawk Str8Talk on Jan 26, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
The Hawks would be crazy to trade Hinrich for something of very little value.
You wouldn’t have thought anyone would have traded for Speedy Claxton either. Teams sometimes trade contracts, not necessarily for the value of a player. That’s how you get teams trading draft picks for players. The player is not necessarily the asset. Pargo is equal value of anything the Hawks could get and need right now. Don’t trade Kirk just to fill a temporary void.
Kirk and his $8 million expiring contract is just as important to the Hawks as it would be for any other team. The Hawks are always fighting against the luxury tax, so the Hawks would lose a lot to gain a little. No one wants that.
Not sure what you're really saying
It seems like you’re making an argument, but I don’t think I said anything about trading Kirk for little value or even very little value. Kirk Hinrich has value to a team like the Lakers, possibly the Bulls (though I don’t see them trading what we need), etc, so I don’t think a word I said trade Kirk for little. I did say that no one is trading for Jannero Pargo. Pargos grow on D-League trees. If you needed someone like him, you’re not giving up an asset of any usefulness to get him. Now, someone would trade for Kirk for his trade value, his talent, or his expiring contract. So, I only said that. Pargo at the league minimum is not the equal of Speedy Claxton. In fact, I believed very strongly that someone would trade for Speedy – his expiring contract was valuable and I for one was one of the few who believe that we actually didn’t make a great trade in getting Crawford. I would have rather kept our flexibility so that we could be a player in the LeBron/Wade year of free agency than get Crawford. As we see, you could fill a roster with plenty of talent to make up for the one trick Jamal pony at $9M a year.
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by Hawk Str8Talk on Jan 26, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Who do you expect to get for Hinrich?
Don’t say Thabeet, Nazr Mohommed, Jordan Hill, or any of the like. That would be trading Hinrich for little value. And Speedy was no where near Pargo’s on court value. Pargo actually plays. But that’s besides the point. What the Hawks need is starting caliber center or a stop gap. No team in today’s NBA would be foolish enough to trade a high impact center for Kirk and the Hawks would be foolish to trade Kirk for a stop gap.
by jdewayneatl on Jan 26, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Rasheed Wallace mulling over NBA return
Rasheed Wallace mulling over NBA return
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* Hawks traded {Al Horford + protected 2nd rounder} for {Perimeter F Jon Leuer and C Andrew Bogut} {& Bench Marvin Williams }
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 26, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
Half of me thinks it would be a good pick up (see TMac).
But I can’t fully endorse that one. But he could be another veteran minimum player that could be a decent backup to Zaza. He is another house name beyond his prime. But I won’t absolutely say that it can’t work. I am construed.
by jdewayneatl on Jan 27, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
We need physicality and size. Past his prime but T Mac has basically said he cant/wont score anymore.
And at 6’8 facing more athletic wings every game. He wont get many clean looks.
So thats a double negative.
A 3 point shooting solid 6’11 big man in Rasheed can be old but still just being tall and facing other big men like Rasheed will, will get you many more clean looks. Even Okur can still play. Its like pitching quarters compared to shorter guys with no lift.
On top of that McGrady does not even look to shoot. He wants to be the Point Guard and feed lesser skilled guys like Zaza. I like that he looks to control the clock but Sheed would be much more beneficial.
Given that he’s in shape.
* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* Hawks traded {Al Horford + protected 2nd rounder} for {Perimeter F Jon Leuer and C Andrew Bogut} {& Bench Marvin Williams }
by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
It could work, it could not work.
I’m just not overly enthusiastic about the chances. I know that he could bang down low, which would be his biggest asset to the team, but how does he mix with the team and how hard is he willing to work?
Its 50/50 for me.
Best. Single. Game. Hawk. Ever.
I’d love bringing back Sheed. Cut Stackhouse, sign Sheed since he fills a bigger need position wise.
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jan 27, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Uh
Again, you may be missing the point here. Speedy’s value to the Hawks far exceeded Pargo’s from a what can you get for him. Teams give away players for picks, cap space, on court value, etc. So, my point here is – at the league minimum, NO ONE is trading for Pargo. He’s more likely to get cut than to be traded. He doesn’t help a team get over any hump that provides the Hawks any rotation worthy piece.
Now, as for what you get for Hinrich, any backup C that can provide you savings AND can get into our rotation on the big side is worth it. It would allow you to pick up a player that’s waived toward the end of the season if there is a savings AND it bolsters our board work. We just watched the Hawks survive at a 13-6 clip without him and honestly, they didn’t need Kirk to win 3 of those 6 that they lost. So, I’m not saying that Kirk can’t have value, but if our need is down low and no other injuries occur by the trade deadline. Keeping Kirk at $8M as an upcoming free agent would be a very bad management move. And if that means that you move him for a draft pick (a 1st) or a rotation worthy player for cheaper, then you do it.
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by Hawk Str8Talk on Jan 27, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
If his deal didn't extend out for another 3 seasons
Kirk and Marvin for Tyson Chandler would make a lot of sense for both sides. But they don’t have the contracts or players to make a deal fit (they being the Knicks obviously). That said, I think they push hard for him as a free agent, since he’d fill a need and be a good fit for them as a ball handler, spot shooter, and defensive perimeter stopper that they lack.
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jan 27, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
I may write about this but we can start discussing
Will be interesting to see if there is another move to be made. If the Hawks want to sign a free agent big (Kenyon Martin rumor) then they will have to cut someone else as well.
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Could happen but given recent history I am not holding my breath
Once he starts getting regular minutes thought the rumors could pop up again
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Once they know the real story on Al...
they will make a decision….But
I think ASG/Sund saw this team beat the Heat and Bulls and the way they beat them….I think they believe with Al, they are an ELITE team in the east and they want to hold it down until he returns…Mid March.
I still see him going to the Laker or Knicks
No way would he settle for the Hawks.
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by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Jan 26, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Kmart could start for the Hawks...
and make a deep playoff run….That is something to think about…The KNICKS SUUUUCK, and Vets don’t want to play for bad teams.
And bench whom?
He isn’t coming here to start IMO.
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by Duff_Man on Jan 26, 2012 9:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
if anything he'd take ivan johnson's spot
production goes way up
rootability goes way down
by Bryant Singleton on Jan 26, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
I do like the thought of Kirk, Taco, and Kenyon.
I am not in love with Martin as a player because he can’t shut up, shoots jumpers and can’t shoot FTs (a player we already employ), but on a 2nd unit, I think he’d be fine.
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Donald Sloan
Hopefully he gets a favorable opportunity to play elsewhere. I wouldnt have minded less Pargo for more Sloan sometimes.. just a thought
The trade I foresee
Is actually Kirk to the Lakers once he demonstrates his health. They’re weak at the PG position and have the Lamar Odom trade exception to take him on. The Hawks could then make a run at a big like Kenyon Martin and even if they don’t succeed in landing a key big they are well beneath the luxury tax which would appeal to ownership.
What?
Trade Kirk and get nothing. Under the cap is under the cap, whether its $5 or $5 million.
by jdewayneatl on Jan 26, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
if we sent him to the Lakers, we wouldn’t want the exception as it’d have no value here.
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jan 27, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
+1
I endorse this position. What is clear, is that at the end of the season Captain Kirk is gone.
No different than Jamal’s situation. We must get something for him now. I am pretty sure that is what Sund is doing, looking and looking. But he won’t speak to it until the move is ready to be made.
And Teague is clearly a number 1 point guard.
We need to completely look at all available centers on the market.
It can be a legit starting center or a backup.
Heres one outta left field
If the wizards season continues as is, I wonder if theyd look to switch things up a bit. I know they already fired flip saunders(who looks almost identical to mr. coach klein from waterboy). But that was an obvious move, he was the scapegoat for them. But if things continue downhill for them, maybe they would be open to discussions for javelee mcgee. I don’t know what it would take to get it done or if he has some outrageous contact, I just want to see what everyone thinks about the idea of him being in atlanta if at all possible…and logical, haha
by bravesfanldh on Jan 27, 2012 12:36 AM EST via Android app reply actions
I would think McGee would look great as a Hawk
He is the missing link. A legit seven footer. An athletic seven footer. He is a problem child, but his potential is high.
But make no mistake, even if Wizards make him available, there is no chance of getting him for Captain Kirk. Centers like that are not easily found and Wizards know that.
The only way Hawks can get McGee, is trading Lion or Smoove for him (in which case they can ask for may be another piece or draft pick). But I think Wizards would insist on Lion, and that, IMO is too high a price
The Wizards won't entertain a McGee trade until after the season
and it is doubtful if they will then. They see him as a building block for their future
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As much of a knucklehead as he's been
I’m not sure they see him as a building block, but it’d be similar, albeit to a much lesser extent, to the discussions we’ve had here about trading Josh. You may be willing to move him, but the return is going to have to be a strong one (and much more than Kirk) in terms of future value because of the immense potential you’d be sending away.
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by Mr. Sanchez on Jan 27, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Stop with the knuckleheads
here’s what we don’t need – Rasheed, McGee, or Kmart. Here’s why…all are head cases and we have enough with Josh and his lack of leadership. In a strong locker room, I’m all for this. with a strong coach, ditto. But on our team – those guys are recipes for disaster…and I say that as a guy who doesn’t think we can win anyway, but if that’s the goal – then let’s do it with guys who aren’t going to kill any locker room. Those guys can do it. McGee is the only one that I think possibly can be salvaged, but the rest – no way…
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I agree
They are all head cases, but theres gotta be some things wrong with them..otherwise the hawks wouldn’t stand a chance at being able to afford them.
Im sure that not many people care for LD, im certainly one of them. So if you had a choice right now between getting a coach who will stick up for his players when calls are not going their way and knows how to handle our locker room and calls timeouts at the appropriate times, and you know…coaches. My question is would you guys rather that coach or a legit center, not d12 or someone outrageous, but someone like chris kaman or maybe someone of deandre jordans caliber (in this hypothetical how the hawks get them is negligible, just assume they can). So which would you rather, a new and legit coach, or a legit center? Both would help tremendously IMO
by bravesfanldh on Jan 27, 2012 11:49 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Prefer
a real coach. Here’s why – I agree that we need a legit center, but until we have a good coach – we don’t really know how good this team is to then assess what else we need or don’t need. Meaning – I think a good coach and help you TRULY see what you need. Maybe Teague isn’t the dude. Maybe Josh is a superstar and unlocking his IQ is the thing that makes Horford expendable OR vice versa. So, to me, it’s all about seeing what we got vs. not knowing what we have because our coach is terrible.
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by Hawk Str8Talk on Jan 28, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions

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