Trading Kirk ??...Why??????

by dkrib on Jan 26, 2012 2:49 PM EST

I have been reading a lot of comments on this blog about how the Hawks should trade Henrich for a center ( or any center) and frankly i am shocked. Why on earth would the hawks want to trade Henrich for ANY BIG??.I keep hearing names like Nazr Mohammed, Thabeet!!!! Are you kidding me?? Unless the center is a legitimate starter who is better than Zaza, the hawks should keep Henrich and even look to extend him . Here's why:

1. Remember Orlando in the playoffs or better still remember Jameer Nelson??.

One of the major reasons why the Hawks got by Orlando last year was Henrich.His D on Jameer Nelson is what helped us win that series. How easily we Hawks fan forget. Infact, If he was not injured last season, I still think we would have gotten by Chicago as he would have made Rose work harded for his points.

2. He is the 2nd best guard we have today.

I am in favor of Jeff Teague starting because he needs the experience and he is the long term solution for us. But, as of today, Henrich is better than Jeff. Why trade your second best guard for a 7ft scrub.

3. Teams will give a lot to have him.

New York, Lakers, Miami are some of the teams that would LOVE to have a veteran guard like Kirk. why give him up for a center who is at best a backup.?

4. We need him.

Just because we have 5 guards does not mean that we should trade Henrich. If we have any hope of getting into the conference finals, we would need Henrich. Willie Green and Pargo are obviously not going to get us into the conference final.

5. He plays the 1 and 2 pretty well.

During the playoffs, where the rotation gets shortened, a guard combination of Kirk , Joe and Jeff is far better than any combination of Joe, Jeff,Pargo and Green.

6. We gave up a lot to get him

We traded 2 first round picks to get him.( The way the 2 picks are playing in Washington, I am grateful we made the deal).The least we can do is see what he can produce for a full season. We still dont know what would have happened had he not been injured in the playoffs.

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Should the Hawks trade Kirk for a Center

Yes. he is worth only a back up center.

15 votes

Heck No. If it is not a legit center, keep him

103 votes

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I don't get this

Kirk is a good shooter and decent defender but he’s in no way going to replace our lack of depth in the front court. We’ve been shooting a pretty good three point percentage as a team and in the top ten in scoring defense. So if Kirk going to score 15+ plus points a game that might work, but we’re still getting killed on the boards.

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on Jan 26, 2012 3:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

I am definitely not a fan of trading Kirk for a minimal impact player.

The Hawks could trade a 2nd round pick for that type of player. Ryan Hollins, Nazr Mohommed, Cole Aldrige, etc. To get that type of player, trading Hinrich would be a really bad move.

by jdewayneatl on Jan 26, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions

If anything, trade Pargo and 2nd round pick. Duh.

by jdewayneatl on Jan 26, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions

Why trade a player with good value for a 3rd option player.

Makes no sense at all.

by jdewayneatl on Jan 26, 2012 3:46 PM EST reply actions

trade kirk cuz his contract is up after this year.

its like with JC except this time sund is going to get something back.

by HARDBODI82 on Jan 26, 2012 3:52 PM EST reply actions

But like JC

it only works if what we get back is a valuable long term addition.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jan 26, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions

we got nothing back for JC so anything is better than nothing.

by HARDBODI82 on Jan 26, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions

Actually, we got VladRad, TMac, Pargo, and Willie Green for JCrossover.

Worked out pretty good I think.

by jdewayneatl on Jan 26, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions

NOO...WE GOT THEM BECAUSE WE GOT NOTHING FOR JC.

by HARDBODI82 on Jan 26, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions

Actually we signed them before JC signed a contract.

So signing those players didn’t come in the wake of losing Jamal, signing those players preceded the official loss of Jamal.

by jdewayneatl on Jan 26, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions

you are both right ...somehow

If we had re signed Jamal , then we would not have been able to signed those players.

by dkrib on Jan 27, 2012 6:15 AM EST up reply actions

WHICH MEANS NOTHING

We lost JC right after the bulls series ended.
#UNRESTRICTED

by HARDBODI82 on Jan 29, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions

Not if it's a hindrance of an equal contract

for a longer term, in an unproductive player.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jan 27, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions

Hinrich

there is no e in his last name.

http://sportsandgrits.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Jan 26, 2012 4:00 PM EST reply actions

Beat me to it

@Kris_Willis
+Kris Willis
facebook.com/krisawillis

by Kris Willis on Jan 26, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions

Lol @ henrich*

i love when people misspell his name..

by cory25 on Jan 26, 2012 4:39 PM EST reply actions

pnemonic device time

hinrich=Hi n Rich (high and rich)

Waiting for the Prodigal Son to Return KH12 BITCHES!!!!
In the Chemi-meter we trust!

by piccolomair on Jan 26, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions

I agreed in principle ...

Right up until Al got injured. The Hawks need to make a move and Herr Hein Hin Rich is the logical choice.

by Jeff_H on Jan 27, 2012 3:40 AM EST reply actions

I was imagining this trade scenario with NO at work today: Horford and Hinrich for Okafor and MIN 1st RD PK (via L.A. via NO). This would give us more dough to sign Kenyon Martin as well. Having front court additions Okafor and Martin would give us a big edge on rebounding and put our front court defense over the top, IMO. Having two first rounders in the loaded 2012 draft would be instant rebuilding while maintaining our playoff contending core.

I laughed it off later, but still think it’s a pretty sexy move.

I feel like SWAT right now..Colin Farrell GET AT ME! GET AT ME! LL Cool J GET AT ME!

by bwellnjonesco on Jan 27, 2012 7:18 PM EST reply actions

MIN 1st RD PK . I doubt it. Stern wants small contracts.

* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Rasheed Wallace * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}

by PointGuardSlim on Jan 27, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions

We should get Jason Thompson from SAC

by HARDBODI82 on Jan 29, 2012 11:37 AM EST reply actions

power forward, softer than jelly

* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Josh Smith * Troy Murphy * Al Horford *
* Kirk Hinrich * Tracy McGrady * Marvin Williams * Ivan/Vlad * Zaza Pachulia *
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* {#40 Pick Perimeter F Jon Leuer is better than Marvin Williams and Hinrich cost us the pick}

by PointGuardSlim on Jan 29, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions

you mean ZAZA or COLLINS?

by HARDBODI82 on Jan 29, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions

Who do we give up for Jason Thompson? Not Zaza one of the well regarded tough guys. Sorry.

DraftExpress: In that regard, Keith Benson reminds me of Jason Thompson. I thought he was very soft at Rider, showed poor awareness. Drafted 12th anyway.

Dont need Jason Thompson. Jason Thompson is not a stretch PF for Smith and is not a center for Horford.

by PointGuardSlim on Jan 30, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions