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Atlanta Begins Road Trip With 97-92 Win Over Milwaukee

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The Atlanta Hawks got their five-game road trip off to a solid start with a gritty 97-92 win over the Milwaukee Bucks Monday night. Atlanta sealed the victory thanks to a second half flurry from Joe Johnson, a Josh Smith three and a timely deflection from Marvin Williams.

Now through 18 games this season it is almost like we are seeing this team grow up again. The veteran presence from players like Tracy McGrady and Vladimir Radmanovic has certainly played a big part but dare I say that this team is starting to make better decisions on the floor and that has paid huge dividends without Al Horford in the lineup.

Case in point was the stark contrast in Joe Johnson's first half and Johnson's second. After struggling during the first half, Johnson found a rhythm by penetrating and finding some easy shots in the second half which also led to eight free throw attempts. Another sign came when Johnson passed out of a double team with the game tied that eventually led to Josh Smith's go-ahead three.

Smith taking that shot might not always be ideal but how many times have we seen Johnson defer at that juncture when he had it going offensively? In this instance, Johnson made the correct pass to Jeff Teague who had a shot or a drive but swung the ball to Smith in the corner for a rhythm shot. That is the biggest difference in this team this season is that the added ball movement makes them increasingly hard to guard. They have simply been playing the game the right way and have been able to lesson the sting of subtracting Horford from the lineup.

Winning bullets

  • I thought Larry Drew might elect to go with Jason Collins against Andrew Bogut in this one but he opted instead for Zaza Pachulia who finished with nine points and 14 rebounds in 38 minutes. Collins got the DNP and Ivan Johnson essentially was the back-up center in this one.
  • Jeff Teague finished with 15 points, six boards, five assists and six turnovers. It was a good game, bad game for Teague with 11 of his 15 coming in the first quarter. Despite his struggles late, I felt like he set the tone in the first quarter with his aggressiveness and he is the one Hawks player that has the quickness to chase around Brandon Jennings.
  • Josh Smith continued his All-Star push with 19 points, 13 rebounds, four assists and three blocks. Even better news was his 4-5 shooting from the free throw line including two clutch one late.
  • Tracy McGrady got the crunchtime minutes again and played the playmaker role well with five assists and no turnovers. His shot has looked flat ever sense he returned from a back injury but the Hawks are using his high on court IQ to their advantage. At some point Larry Drew may have to find a balance between McGrady and Marvin Williams because Atlanta could have used Williams to help work the boards late.
  • Atlanta got 20 points from five guys off the bench. Many may have laughed (or cried) with the signings of players like Jannero Pargo, Willie Green and Vladimir Radmanovic but more often that not they have been giving the Hawks something positive. As recently as last season Atlanta's bench production and usage would have come from a single player. The bench unit has done an excellent job of sharing the basketball and that has carried over to the starting unit.
  • Which brings us to Kirk Hinrich who is set to make his return Wednesday in San Antonio. Hinrich will add another defender to the back court and a player who is capable of initiating the offense as well as knock down an outside shot. Atlanta will be slow about bringing him back but his presence should just give the Hawks another weapon at their disposal.
  • Atlanta has 15 players currently on the roster and several have non-guaranteed deals. The date for when those contracts become fully guaranteed is approaching and the Hawks are also slightly above the luxury tax threshold. That means that at least one player is likely to be waived before their contract becomes fully guaranteed.
  • Final roster note. Buried deep inside MC's Monday pre game blog was this tidbit regarding the Hawks and free agent centers. MC reports that the Hawks aren't enamored with the options available but will make a run at Kenyon Martin once he is released by FIBA from his Chinese contract.
  • The win improves the Hawks record to 13-5 which gives them a one game lead in the Southeast division over both Orlando and Miami.

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I am not in favor of getting Kenyon Martin

He is not a center. We are past the point of just needing a big. We need a tall center. We already have big Ivan, why get another PF with no future. Instead continue to work Ivan in the lineup, and let him learn the defensive side of NBA.

by ATLpaul on Jan 24, 2012 10:16 AM EST reply actions  

We don't just need a tall center

We need somebody capable of playing the position. That may not be Martin but we don’t need to simply go out and sign someone just simply because they are a 7-footer. We already have that in Collins.

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by Kris Willis on Jan 24, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think Martin will look at the Hawks anyway

He will have some interest

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by Kris Willis on Jan 24, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Please not K-Mart

we need a legit center. kenyon will poison our locker room. he is hands down one of the worst attitudes in the NBA. we have a much cooler tough guy. his name is Ivan Johnson. GET A LEGIT BIG!

by Turb0 on Jan 24, 2012 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

Made me laugh.

I'm on the Twitter: twitter.com/edgrohl

by Duff_Man on Jan 24, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

3-10 shooting!

Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.

by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT

by Bronn on Jan 24, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

4 assists. 3 offensive rebounds. 12 total rebounds. 25 minutes.

* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Jon Leuer * Josh Smith * Andrew Bogut *
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* Hawks traded {Al Horford + protected 2nd rounder} for {Perimeter F Jon Leuer and C Andrew Bogut} {& Bench Marvin Williams }

by PointGuardSlim on Jan 24, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Too True

When are people going to realize that there are about 5-7 legitimate centers with the required skill and size to successfully play the position. People act like they just grow on trees and any seven footer we bring in will be great. I am so tired of hearing this year after year.

by swell4 on Jan 24, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you guys saying Andrew Bogut can't successfully play center for us (because of skill) but Jason Collins, Zaza and Ivan Johnson do?

I know emotions are attached but come on, these jokes are ridiculous.

* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Jon Leuer * Josh Smith * Andrew Bogut *
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* Hawks traded {Al Horford + protected 2nd rounder} for {Perimeter F Jon Leuer and C Andrew Bogut} {& Bench Marvin Williams }

by PointGuardSlim on Jan 24, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

No! I am saying, he isn't worth trading for.

Too much money and not enough skill…. Zaza had 14rebs and make 5mil.

by Rufus1 on Jan 24, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Zaza played 38 minutes to Bogut's 25 minutes and 4 Assists 12 rebounds. Zaza had 5 fouls to his 1 foul.

The fact he shot 3-10 is bad but no ones asking him to be Joe Johnson for this team. We’re asking him to be Zaza 2.0.

+ more rebounding + more finishing ability + more passing + more ballhandling ability

Like it or not, we compare Bogut is one center skilled enough of putting up All Star #s on this team. He might not be a shot creator but he has more than enough skills to do the dirty things to get us extra plays, finish plays and help us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tr05HCdl1M

* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Jon Leuer * Josh Smith * Andrew Bogut *
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* Hawks traded {Al Horford + protected 2nd rounder} for {Perimeter F Jon Leuer and C Andrew Bogut} {& Bench Marvin Williams }

by PointGuardSlim on Jan 24, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the fact that you're sticking to your guns

Some people would have cursed and left.

I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture

by a hooter's baby on Jan 24, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I've cursed and left multiple times. But I love basketball too much and just see this as an excellent opportunity to be the top NBA team being squandered.

With these winning streaks we’ve got to reexamine how replaceable everyone is in the grand scheme of the league.

I recently checked and what Zaza Pachulia is doing is incredible.

The Hawks have always needed a big body and stats show Smith and Joe make the right decision more than people give him credit for.

The result is Zaza Pachulia’s WS/48 is near the same as Al Horford’s! So Horford was the perfect role player with know how to win. But since he’s taught everyone else to win what else has he brought?

Zaza does nothing except offensive rebound, defensive rebound, box out and shoot occasionally. A bad skilled player yet we are winning and WS/48 makes little to no distinction with what Al’s skills and IQ contribution last year and what Zaza’s size and worse IQ bringing.

These stats and the winning say that Horford is as overpaid as Bogut.

The stats make us question …how long has it been since he’s just become a replaceable 5th wheel?

* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Jon Leuer * Josh Smith * Andrew Bogut *
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* Hawks traded {Al Horford + protected 2nd rounder} for {Perimeter F Jon Leuer and C Andrew Bogut} {& Bench Marvin Williams }

by PointGuardSlim on Jan 24, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know how realistic it would be...

But Kenyon Martin would be a better fill-in than anyone else on the market. He rebounds and defends and can get points. He has played center for Denver. If the Hawks need a bigger body against bigger centers, start Zaza. But a combination of Zaza and Kenyon Martin we be as close to an upgrade at the position the Hawks could hope for.

by jdewayneatl on Jan 24, 2012 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

I think this is their thinking as well

Its not perfect or ideal but the reality is that barring a trade this is the best they can do and it would only effect this season.

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by Kris Willis on Jan 24, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I was pushing for Kenyon as soon as Al went down

Sure I’d love a good 7 footer, but those require a trade. My logic with Kenyon is that if the team could maintain itself in contention then Kenyon Martin would be a dirty work veteran to contribute underneath at the 5 spot. He’d cost luxury tax and be a partial season rental using the MLE. The timing of his eligibility also set the table for the team to get a true feel for how competitive it is before making a move. No sense spending luxury tax dollars if the core unit isn’t proving worthy.

It’s very likely that even if we could trade for another big and only surrendered Kirk Hinrich’s expiring deal that we’d still get back years of committed salary.

by Evildallas on Jan 24, 2012 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

I seriously cried when Space Cadet was signed and I'm not afraid to admit it.

* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Jon Leuer * Josh Smith * Andrew Bogut *
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* Hawks traded {Al Horford + protected 2nd rounder} for {Perimeter F Jon Leuer and C Andrew Bogut} {& Bench Marvin Williams }

by PointGuardSlim on Jan 24, 2012 3:54 PM EST reply actions  

What are people looking for in a 7 footer? A 6'10 or 6'11 guy would not be good enough? Say Ajinca over Zaza?

In a center I look for
- finishes easy points (paint)
- prevents easy points (the paint)
- smart passer
- rebound to close possessions
- rebound to extend possessions
- can hit a 5-10 foot hook shot

* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Jon Leuer * Josh Smith * Andrew Bogut *
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* Hawks traded {Al Horford + protected 2nd rounder} for {Perimeter F Jon Leuer and C Andrew Bogut} {& Bench Marvin Williams }

by PointGuardSlim on Jan 24, 2012 3:57 PM EST reply actions  

How many of those guys even exist?

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by Kris Willis on Jan 24, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Not many...

They are called the #1 overall pick…

by Rufus1 on Jan 24, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I see where Kris said you have to get these guys via trade but the rest of you guys are CRAZY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WCErUERKtg
- finishes easy points (paint)
- prevents easy points (the paint)
- smart passer
- rebound to close possessions
- rebound to extend possessions
- can hit a 5-10 foot hook shot

“A few quick highlights of a comeback victory. All clips are from the late 2nd and early 3rd quarter.”

Yes they are called the #1 overall pick. Big guys with fundamentals don’t go on trees.

* Jeff Teague * Joe Johnson* Jon Leuer * Josh Smith * Andrew Bogut *
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* Hawks traded {Al Horford + protected 2nd rounder} for {Perimeter F Jon Leuer and C Andrew Bogut} {& Bench Marvin Williams }

by PointGuardSlim on Jan 24, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

This is the last time i will ever respond to your foolishness

the center position is overrated, PG play is THE most important position in the NBA. My God look at the Hawks, a TON of their improvement this season has been simply have a PG with a pulse. Its a new era, the days of 7 footers dominating the paint have long since past. Get with the times. Trading Al Horford for Bogut is a loss in talent for the Hawks, Bogut may be good for his position but he isnt the all around force that Al Horford is on both sides of the court.

by Jonesy24 on Jan 24, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly!

IF the league has only 5-7 legit centres then most nights teams can get away without one. The difference come sin the playoffs where you have to defend them in a series. Though we managed that very well last year against Orlando. Even teams with legit centres are struggling- with the exception of Orlando, Indiana, and Memphis…plus the Clippers if you count Jordan, but he is hardly a traditional centre.

by Travis Mays on Jan 24, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

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