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NBA Coach Rankings: Larry Drew Checks In At No. 23 In SB Nation Rankings

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SB Nation's Mike Prada released his annual rankings of the NBA's coaches and Atlanta's Larry Drew checks in at No. 23. Drew jumps up seven spots from No. 30 in last season's rankings. 

23.  Larry DrewAtlanta Hawks (30): I thought Drew was handed a really difficult situation last year: a team needing a coach willing to change the team's style, yet with the same roster and one of the lowest-paid coaches in the league. In that respect, it's understandable that the Hawks sleepwalked a bit through the year, with Drew prodding them to be different and often struggling. I thought Drew regained some points by outcoaching Stan Van Gundy in the Hawks-Magic series and for keeping games competitive against the Bulls in the next round.

I think Prada is fair in his ranking here and that we could see Drew rise in these rankings as long as the Hawks can maintain their current level. No doubt there were bumps in the road last season. Substitution patterns, the handling of Jeff Teague, Horford two foul rule and all things that come to mind but it is too easy to get caught up in all of the negative without noticing the positive.

It would have been really easy for Drew to say all of the right things during the interview process and then maintain the status quo with this Hawks team and try and win 50 games. He didn't go that route changing up both their offensive and defensive principles. However, while Atlanta once again suffered its customary second round exit from the playoffs, they didn't look like a lock to even win a round. It is nice that Prada gives Drew props for the success against the Magic and keeping things competitive in the second round against the Bulls. 

It is interesting that Drew is ranked one spot behind Toronto's Dwane Casey who has yet to coach a game for the Raptors yet but was a top assistant on the Mavericks team that won the NBA Championship last season. Interesting because Casey would likely have been the top choice as the Hawks head man last season had Drew not won a strong vote of confidence from Atlanta's ownership group. 

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Wow Dwayne Casey is already ranked higher?

with Toronto??? The caption should be “PLEEEEEEASEE!! PLEEEASE! don’t shoot another 20 footer!”

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on Aug 19, 2011 12:33 PM EDT reply actions  

It does look like he is begging Smoove to stop shooting long jumpers.

"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.

by Jesse28 on Aug 23, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't front

I can’t stand Larry Drew as our coach (good guy I hear) and I wish he was 30. I’m normally not that rigid, but dammit – we will never win a title with the 23rd best coach in the league. Just not happening. My Cuban BFF will rectify this – I’m sure of it.

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by Hawk Str8Talk on Aug 19, 2011 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

....

Jason Collins + Zaza Pachulia outcoached Van Gundy.

Dwight + 1-dimensional shooters = champs???

thanks Otis Smith!

But seriously here’s what Stan Van Gundy said at the “Coaching University Live Event”:

"We think it helps our center and we think it helps our point guard in penetrating if we can spread the floor out,"Van Gundy said at the Coaching U Live event at UCF on Thursday. "The numbers think that’s a better shot than the mid-range. And the other reason is, that’s who we have."

Van Gundy went on to say, in general terms, that the Magic haven’t possessed perimeter players adept at penetrating and scoring at the rim. More than 80 percent of the shots taken by Jameer Nelson, Jason Richardson and Hedo Turkoglu are classified as jump-shots.

"Especially from an offensive standpoint, this is a personnel driven league," Van Gundy continued. "You do with what you have. We get it from our media all the time and our fans. We’ll have those nights, 2-for-23 from three. They say you gotta drive the ball more. Who? Who? That’s my question. Who? Who’s going to drive the ball? That’s not who we have. If I had a different team, there are a lot of guys in the league that I wouldn’t shoot threes with. We have who we have and we’re going to build our system around it."
……

Now my question is if Van Gundy were the Hawks coach would he add a full time center
 or keep same philosojhy.

Seriously stumped here. This is what Woodson and Drew do.

"We think it helps our center [Horford] and we think it helps our point guard [Teague] in penetrating if we can spread the floor out,""The numbers think that’s a better shot than the mid-range. And the other reason is, that’s who we have."

would Van Gundy thought of using Gortat to counter Jason Collins and shift Dwight Howard power forward??

Thats what happened last year isn’t it?

"Especially from an offensive standpoint, this is a personnel driven league," Van Gundy continued. "You do with what you have….If I had a different team, there are a lot of guys in the league that I wouldn’t shoot threes with. We have who we have and we’re going to build our system around it."

If Stan Van Gundy had Gortat or any team has 2 interchangeabl centers (ie Varejao and Ilgauskas) will we ever win?

by PointGuardSlim on Aug 19, 2011 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times..."

Your posts either need chapters or better use of paragraphs.

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by Duff_Man on Aug 22, 2011 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought breaks helped readability but will take it into account Duff

In 1957, the team advanced to the Finals, losing to the Boston Celtics in a double-overtime thriller in game seven. In 1958, the Hawks again advanced to the NBA Finals where they avenged their previous year's defeat against the Boston Celtics, winning the series 4-2. Bob Pettit scored 50 points in Game 6 in front of a crowd of 10,218 in St. Louis. The victory gave the Hawks their first and only NBA Championship.

by PointGuardSlim on Aug 22, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drew was a cheaply paid rookie head coach and often coached like it. The day the Hawks replace him with a quality proven coach can’t come soon enough.

by redwards95 on Aug 19, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I believe he lost 20 ranks in the system

for starting bibby for half the season. im shocked there are coaches worse than him. In the caption is says that he kept a competitive series against the bulls, truth is he was forced to play teague and it ended up better than he thought

I like to think of Jeff Teague as our secret weapon..... so secret that the Atlanta coaches have no idea who he is.

Upon hearing that the nfl lockout was over, I faced in the general direction of Seattle and gave them the finger. GO RAMS

by Throw on Aug 19, 2011 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

In 1957, the team advanced to the Finals, losing to the Boston Celtics in a double-overtime thriller in game seven. In 1958, the Hawks again advanced to the NBA Finals where they avenged their previous year's defeat against the Boston Celtics, winning the series 4-2. Bob Pettit scored 50 points in Game 6 in front of a crowd of 10,218 in St. Louis. The victory gave the Hawks their first and only NBA Championship.

by PointGuardSlim on Aug 19, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.

by Jesse28 on Aug 23, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's be clear, LD was a money saving movve by old ownership

A cheap move, and clear sign of how misguided they were.
To put the coach with the least pedigree and least salary in charge of a mature team that has been to second round of playoffs three years running. The top four players making at least 10 times his salary.

Alex will fix it. Either this year, or thankfully after coming strange lockout year comes to an end.

The new candidates should be

1. Jeff Van Gundy (experience and been through the wars)
2. Patrick Ewing (credibility for the Hall of Famer and good seasoning under SVG)
3. Brian Shaw (People were high on him in LA LA land, and I still think Lakers made a huge mistake by hiring brown)
4. Because I Like Calipari, we should go outside the box and try to steal him from KY
5. Rick Pitino – has proven himself at every rank

by ATLpaul on Aug 19, 2011 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh I don't like any of those Paul

Maybe Shaw or Van Gundy but I don’t want another college coach no matter how good Calipari and Pitino are.

@Kris_Willis

by Kris Willis on Aug 19, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I doubt Calipari would move from KY to ATL

He is getting paid too much. But I also don’t think he will remain in KY forever, even though he is a great motivator.

Pitino has been a good pro coach before.

My real wild card is Doc. At some point, he is going to realize that the core of KG/Perkins/Pierce is too old, and he will be ready to leave the land of Mordor. At that point we have a lot of reasons why he would want to look our way

by ATLpaul on Aug 19, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong

I like both Cal and Pitino, its just the old college coach in the pros never seems to work out well.

Interesting because I thought that Casey would have been the correct hire last season, but I personally don’t think Drew did a terrible job. In fact I think there are a few reaches in the above rankings and Drew could have been ranked a little higher. Not to say there wasn’t some growing pains. I really want to see how Casey does this season in Toronto.

@Kris_Willis

by Kris Willis on Aug 20, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

People are forgetting that this was is first year as head coach and he showed some coaching ability where it mattered, in the playoffs! I think people are too hard on him and held him on a pedistal too high for a first year coach. Let’s be the judge next after he’s seen the mistakes he’s made last year and see how he adjusts.

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by Anonymous HawksGuy on Aug 23, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Calipari's been a pro coach, he sucked at it...

both 4 and 5 are jokes. Have to be jokes.

I’ll agree on 3, can see 1 and 2, but like 3 better.

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by Mr. Sanchez on Aug 20, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

#1,
 #2 ?? Rambis had good seasoning under Phil

  1. yes
  2. no
  3. has coached NBA before, didn’t traded Chauncey after playing him in a small backcourt?

In 1957, the team advanced to the Finals, losing to the Boston Celtics in a double-overtime thriller in game seven. In 1958, the Hawks again advanced to the NBA Finals where they avenged their previous year's defeat against the Boston Celtics, winning the series 4-2. Bob Pettit scored 50 points in Game 6 in front of a crowd of 10,218 in St. Louis. The victory gave the Hawks their first and only NBA Championship.

by PointGuardSlim on Aug 19, 2011 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. yes, a 6’6 point guard should recognize advantages we have Teague speed Josh size Joe size Horford passing…

In 1957, the team advanced to the Finals, losing to the Boston Celtics in a double-overtime thriller in game seven. In 1958, the Hawks again advanced to the NBA Finals where they avenged their previous year's defeat against the Boston Celtics, winning the series 4-2. Bob Pettit scored 50 points in Game 6 in front of a crowd of 10,218 in St. Louis. The victory gave the Hawks their first and only NBA Championship.

by PointGuardSlim on Aug 19, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

But while being a great player does not mean you are a good coach

Patrick Ewing is a hall of famer, not fair to compare him to Rambis who was just a cog in those great Laker teams. Patrick would bring instant credibility anywhere he goes, and will get respect of big men with his skills, teaching, and work ethic. Remember he is from the John Thompson tree.

by ATLpaul on Aug 19, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

One would hope so

But in the end it falls on the players.

I believe Al has worked hard and maxed his potential. Zaza, yes.
Joe works hard and has maxed his physical tools and potential.

Josh’s reached his potential in 2010, it would be nice to see him at 230 lbs against SFs.

Kobe Bryant just dropped 50 points in Drew League. No coach can give any player on this team that skillset no matter how much they coach.

This offense is better than most give credit for. Equal opportunity offense. post up 2guard, post up SF.

That is a point guards dream right there. Unfortunately we need shooters and thats why we insert Hinrich’s and Crawfords Bibbys and Flip Murrays instead of putting Teague in position to go head to head with PGs, Johnson on SGs Smith etc.

2010 Smith catching Kobe in a post mismatch? = win. 2011 Smith

Ewing will not give Al his length to just shoot the dang over Joakim.
Ewing can keep his knees lol.

In the end it comes down to the players.

In 1957, the team advanced to the Finals, losing to the Boston Celtics in a double-overtime thriller in game seven. In 1958, the Hawks again advanced to the NBA Finals where they avenged their previous year's defeat against the Boston Celtics, winning the series 4-2. Bob Pettit scored 50 points in Game 6 in front of a crowd of 10,218 in St. Louis. The victory gave the Hawks their first and only NBA Championship.

by PointGuardSlim on Aug 20, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

In the end it comes down to the players.

and whether their talent is good enough to beat the talent they’ll face in the Playoffs

In 1957, the team advanced to the Finals, losing to the Boston Celtics in a double-overtime thriller in game seven. In 1958, the Hawks again advanced to the NBA Finals where they avenged their previous year's defeat against the Boston Celtics, winning the series 4-2. Bob Pettit scored 50 points in Game 6 in front of a crowd of 10,218 in St. Louis. The victory gave the Hawks their first and only NBA Championship.

by PointGuardSlim on Aug 20, 2011 12:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Certainly the players are very important but when the coach takes Horford out of the game for 18 minutes of the first half because he has 2 fouls and puts in Josh Powell or leaves Teague on the bench while he has Bibby and Crawford playing PG vs Derrek Rose, that’s on him.

by redwards95 on Aug 20, 2011 6:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

There were positives and negatives

My only concern is if the positives were only positives because of the baseline set by Woodson, and therefore they are really false positives.

Overall, I think Drew did ok. He didn’t sink the ship that he was given, but he didn’t sail into new waters either. He most definitely improved the team on both sides of the ball from a predictability standpoint, but he didn’t improve the defensive efficiency and the offense never seemed to take root with the team and by the numbers was actually worse.

I read many opinions that set his expectations as winning more games than Woodson had the year before and I firmly believe that doing so was truly unreasonable. My personal opinion of Drew’s performance was soley based on the playoffs. Going into the season, I had no doubt that this team could still make the playoffs. The question however, was what would Drew do to make the team more successful in the playoffs? The sample size is obviously small and I’d love to see how he would play things if some of the circumstances had been different, i.e. no injury to Hinrich, but overall, I think he managed it well. I can give him some credit for finding a plan that worked against Orlando and getting the team to actually execute said plan and I’d like to think that Teague shattered whatever ridiculous opinion Drew had of him after Game 1 against Chicago, enough to allow Teague to continue.

The negatives all seem to be personel issues. I don’t think that he will ever be the coach that demands a player to follow along or will ever bench a key player for not following along. In that regard, I think he is too much like Woodson and that we will always have a problem with Josh shooting long jumpers. Drew just doesn’t have it in him to be that kind of a coach. He also relies much too heavily on the mystical ‘veteran’ players. Bibby never should have started this year and JC1 should never come off the bench before Teague if Teague isn’t starting and he IS NOT A PG. The Horford Rule is absurd and I think he completely undervalues Zaza.

I don’t think Drew has what it takes to turn this team into a championship team but I don’t think he’ll run it into lottery land either. I’d probably vote to keep him around for another year because I think he can improve if he’s willing to learn from his mistakes, be open to change, and be willing to demand his players to stick to the plan. I also don’t think there is a lot of options when it comes to coaches right now and I think that the better solution towards getting a championship team is by getting better players.

But that’s just me.

"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.

by Jesse28 on Aug 23, 2011 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

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