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There is another story brewing under the radar.  The story of Jeremy Tyler that is.  In a previous blog post, I suggested that the Hawks trade up in the draft to get this enigmatic, young big man. 

Here is a brief background.  Tyler is 6'11" and 260 lbs. He made a name for himself as the #1 player in the country for the class of 2010.  But, after his JUNIOR year of high school, Tyler decided to turn pro, going overseas.  He went to Israel and made a million bucks, then took his talents to Japan.  Now, after what many call a disappointing 2-year stint overseas and a horrible decision, he is making his way to the NBA. 

To be noted, before any draft workouts or interviews, Tyler was projected to be drafted in the top half of the 2nd round.  (The Hawks would have probably still missed out on him without moving up to draft him.)  Now, he has pushed his draft value into the late first round and is still on the rise as he continues to participate in team work outs.

This is a video from Tyler's interview at the New York team workout.  Also read this article about Tyler's rise at nba.com.

 

Tyler could very well be a lottery pick, maybe even top 5, if he had gone to college.  But because his trip overseas did not produce much on the court success, his draft value fell dramatically. This could be the Hawks chance to get a steal in the draft again (i.e. Jeff Teague and Jordan Crawford were two good late round picks).  But this time it could really be the jackpot.  I see Andrew Bynum potential.

 

If New York (17th) has genuine interest, you can add them to the list of teams that includes Houston (23rd), Boston (25th), Chicago (28th and 30th), and San Antonio (29th) that would be willing to take him as a project, though I think that he will be much more than a project and could very well have some impact on a team this year.

The Hawks could package this years 2nd round and next years 1st round picks to move up to get one of Chicago's picks maybe or to get Minnesota's 20th pick.  Atlanta's future would be headed in the right direction as it would have it's Center of the future and Point Guard of the future both at the same time. 

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In addition to drafting Jeremy Tyler, I have concocted another Summer 2011 scenario for Hawks roster moves.

The Hawks could package Marvin and his new back in a trade to Charlotte for Stephen Jackson.  The Bobcats are obviously rebuilding and are in need of a small forward.  Jordan may also be interested in bring Marvin back to North Carolina.  He didn't give up on Kwame Brown.

Get a sign-and-trade deal done with Jamal to send him to Boston for Glen Davis and maybe a draft pick.  Big Baby has a nice low post game and can defend the center position.  He actually does a really good job on Dwight Howard. And to round out the roster, re-sign Jason Collins, bring over Sergiy Gladyr, and sign James Jones and Chuck Hayes.

 

Depth:

PG - Teague, Hinrich, Pape Sy

SG - Joe, Stephen Jackson, Gladyr

SF - J-Smoove, James Jones

PF - Big Baby, Chuck Hayes

C  - Al Horford, Zaza Pachulia, Jeremy Tyler, Jason Collins

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I just don't see it happening.

In all honesty if the Hawks were interested in a development project they would’ve kept Jordan Crawford and also wouldn’t have traded our 1st round pick. I think that was a sign that this team doesn’t need youth it needs a veteran presence, or a sign that this draft is so underwhelming.

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by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Jun 8, 2011 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Really?

he crapped out in Israel, and was in, and he sat behind the failed Robert Swift in Japan.

No thanks, and we definitely don’t need to give up value to move up for him.

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by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 9, 2011 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Think about this...

Brandon Jennings did not have big numbers by far and didn’t get much playing time the one year that he played overseas and yet was really, really good as a rookie in the NBA. Also, Ricky Rubio’s numbers are really sub par for a touted PG phenom. I am sure that his game will blossom in the NBA as well.

I think that the most important development Tyler has learned while playing overseas is maturity. If he has the talent, he will be a good NBA player.

by jdewayneatl on Jun 19, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

but they at least started, in well respected leagues...

he sat the bench, behind a bust, in one of the weaker leagues on the planet.

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by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 19, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank-you for posting this

Interesting. I can not say how much i distaste the JC2 trade for us losing our draft pick, this is really tough to swallow to sit the draft out. All while Teague was still available.

by ATLpaul on Jun 9, 2011 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

If he's really as good as you say, he won't be there in the second round.

Put it this way if you know about it, some team in the NBA knows about it. In this weak draft someone will take a gamble on talent.

by thirdfALCON on Jun 12, 2011 1:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Thats why

I suggest that the Hawks move up into the first round to take a chance on him.

by jdewayneatl on Jun 19, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since we're dealing in the rosterbation fantasy right now...

Ricky Rubio signed with Minnesota. How about a package around Marvin for Jonny Flynn (with maybe Darko, Martell Webster, Anthony Tolliver, or Anthony Randolph to make salaries match)?

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by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 17, 2011 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

If there was a trade involving Minnesota,

there are two scenerios that I see could help the Hawks.

1) Marvin for Beasly and Wayne Ellington
2) A three team trade between ATL, Portland, and Minnesota. Hawks get Rudy Fernandez, Anthony Randolph, and Anthony Tolliver. Portland gets Johnny Flynn. Minnesota gets Marvin Williams.

The Hawks have Teague and Kirk Hinrinch. I thnk we can finally say that the Hawks have promising solid play at PG.

by jdewayneatl on Jun 19, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's all well and good but I think you're really overvaluing Marvin

He’s coming off a sub-par year, he has a over-priced contract versus the productions on the floor, and he is coming off back surgery. Beasley himself is the best asset in that trade why would they trade him? From the Hawk’s perspective, if they do that trade that mean you have 3 PF on the team that can start (Horford, Smith, Beasely). That second trade doesn’t do anything for our defense as all three of those players are HORRIBLE defensively which is one of the benefits of keeping Marvin

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by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Jun 19, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe...

In this scenerio, yes maybe I am being a little optimistic about what the Hawks could get back for Marvin but the Hawks need is not point guard any more. My point is that trading Marvin should bring back an obvious upgrade or good pieces that fill needs. The Hawks need to make a trade that makes the team better versus a lateral change or a downward change.

by jdewayneatl on Jun 21, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

One team's trash is another team's treasure.

As soon as the Hawk’s season ended, rumors of where Jamal would go immediately began to circulate. Boston was one team that was rumored to have interest. And the only way to make that happen would be by sign and trade.

As far as Marvin, Charlotte needs a small forward and they may see potential in Marvin if he were given a bigger role. Hoopsworld recently posted an article on its site referencing player ready to flourish but needed a change of scenery and Marvin is one of them. Plus, like I said, he is a Carolina guy so Jordan just might take a chance. He didn’t give up on Kwame Brown.

by jdewayneatl on Jun 21, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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