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Chicago Bulls 94, Atlanta Hawks 76 Or More Of The Same

CHICAGO, IL - MARCH 11: Joakim Noah #13 of the Chicago Bulls knocks the ball away from Al Horford #15 of the Atlanta Hawks at the United Center on March 11, 2011 in Chicago, Illinois. The Bulls defeated the Hawks 94-76. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and/or using this photograph, User is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. (Photo by Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images)

My apologies for this being brief but how many different ways can the same thing be said over and over? Atlanta came up with a pretty spirited effort in the first half actually leading the game then simply never emerged from the locker room afterwards. I thought this post game quote from Kirk Hinrich pretty much sums up the state of this team that has existed first week to week, then game to game, and now apparently half to half. 

"In the second half it was like we forgot everything we did in the first half," Hinrich said.

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The only advice I would offer Hinrich is either get used to it or take a stand and do something about it. We have waited for two seasons now for a leader to emerge from this team. Someone to stand up when things like last night happen. For two seasons now we have waited for a head coach or a player to become an authority figure in that locker room. All I can say to Kirk is that if you want the job it is yours, just understand what you are getting yourself into. 

Other than that I don't have a whole lot to offer on this game. I thought the Hawks did a better job with ball movement and actually did find its way in the paint a few times. I noted last night I don't know if I have ever seen a team pass the ball out of the paint before being doubled as much as the Hawks. As far as match-ups go, the Atlanta Hawks are not going to win a game in which Derrick Rose is matched up on Jamal Crawford for more than half a game. I don't understand the reasoning for not going to Teague other than Jamal making a few shots in the first half. I will offer that I have no confidence in Jamal being able to score more than he will give up defensively. 

Atlanta got physically whipped on the backboard and that was without Carlos Boozer in the lineup. Even with feeding the ball inside somewhat, this Hawks team still doesn't look like it knows what it is trying to accomplish offensively. Is it trying to set up Joe Johnson? How about Josh Smith? Jamal? It feels like it is all of the above and that clearly isn't going to work. 

The good thing is that in the NBA sometimes you only get a day to think about a tough loss. The Hawks get yet another opportunity to bounce back tonight against Portland at Philips Arena. This team is capable of so much more and that is the most frustrating thing. It is time to figure it out. 

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My impression of this team

Is that, win or lose, no matter the margin, after the game is over everyone goes back to their own home/hotel room and plays Playstation. No accountability for what has just happened, they distance themselves from it as much as possible, and then try to show up for the next game and hope things turn out better. In their head they’re blaming everyone but themselves, regardless what their lips are saying. There’s no search for self-awareness or battle to improve.

I’m sure this isn’t precisely what happens, but the way they keep making the same mistakes and showcasing the same embarrassing effort, it sure does seem like it. Show up, punch their timesheet, and forget about the game when it ends.

by Bronn on Mar 12, 2011 12:23 PM EST reply actions  

I have to agree

They haven’t seemed like a team or a unit in a long time. Instead of five playing as one it feels like five pulling in different directions.

@KrisPTHoops

by Kris Willis on Mar 12, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

also agree

The entire team has taken on the personality and erratic play of Josh Smith. I don’t think that’s going to be successful.

by redwards95 on Mar 12, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

interestingly...

I think I have to disagree with you Kris on only one thing – maybe they AREN’T capable of more. By that I mean – maybe this particular mix is not capable of more than sporadic highs and more consistent inconsistency. I mean if I go out and shoot 70% – that’s what I’m capable of at my best, but when I come back to the mean – I’m just a shoddy inconsistent jump shooter from outside 12 ft. That’s who I am and I think we’re all seeing that that’s who we are. None of these guys have the ability (and they aren’t be challenged to do it either) or focus to lock in and play good defense and good offense. The mix must change for any of them to get there.

Hawk Str8Talk

by Hawk Str8Talk on Mar 12, 2011 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

and by mix - I mean...

time to blow it up. there’s simply NO other way to get the Atlanta Hawks to the next level.

Hawk Str8Talk

by Hawk Str8Talk on Mar 12, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I won't say/admit that you are right

but you very well could be. I still say when this team was on the same page they were capable of being really good. It is starting to look like now thought that they aren’t capable of coming back together enough to make a difference.

@KrisPTHoops

by Kris Willis on Mar 12, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Really good, but not close to title worthy

so it really comes down to this for us – if you’re happy with them being good, but never being able to contend, then it doesn’t matter if you agree with me or not. On their best day, the Hawks are good, very good, but the problem is – on their best day – they are still worse than about 8 other teams at their best. So, the Hawks could be on the same page and never get to the title. They still won’t have a low post presence, they still won’t defend the perimeter, they still don’t have the toughness and leadership necessary to win a title. So, that’s the point. We’re complaining about the Hawks at their worst lately, but I’m not reveling in that – that will change, but we’re still just a flawed team at our BEST. That’s why I’m saying – you have to change the mix up. Even Teague showing up tonight doesn’t change that fact.

Hawk Str8Talk

by Hawk Str8Talk on Mar 12, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

And..

that’s why folks should be livid that we gave up a first rounder and Jordan Crawford for Kirk Hinrich. This team’s ceiling wasn’t raised by getting Kirk…all we had to do was put Bibby on the bench. Put Jordan in the game to hopefully approximate and then exceed the all around game of Jamal and then get another player in the draft and a free agent for what we paid Jamal. And since we screwed that up, that whole situation is going to end up being a net negative and KEEPING us from getting any better in the next few years.

Hawk Str8Talk

by Hawk Str8Talk on Mar 12, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

if the culture of losing and mediocrity is still here.....

It won’t matter what players we bring in here. The culture of this team has to change before we start another 2003 season of blow-up. How are the Bulls winning and playing defense with the same players known to have bad defensive ratings before this year? Blowing the team up is the easy way out of a season not even over yet, and if that’s being naive so be it. I don’t care about being sensible all I care about is winning and throwing another batch of players into a failing organization isn’t progess.

Change the culture

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on Mar 12, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

There was a play last night

that really shows the problem with this team. I think it was Crawford driving in and passing to a wide open Horford on the baseline. No one between him and the basket, one dribble, two steps and slam. Instead he throws it out to Joe who then launches (and misses) a three. I was watching the game with my father and I thought he was going to have a heart attack.

In the “we’re all jump shooters” post maxxj3 asked if Joe was trying to tell us the problem or that there’s no hope. I think what he was saying is they either don’t realize or don’t care what the problem is, so basically there’s no hope. Can’t wait till the playoffs!

by Adam_S on Mar 12, 2011 4:55 PM EST reply actions  

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