Hawks 90, Blazers 83: Instant Reaction
by Jason Walker on Feb 28, 2011 1:15 AM EST
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Quick Thought: It was all Bibby's fault.
Summary:
Pay no attention to that fourth quarter, the one in which the officials were bent on equalizing and bettering their atrocities from the first half.
Also bear no mind for the Hawks, once again, prematurely taking their feet off the offensive gas petal, choosing again to play the losing game of "take the air out of the basketball". This is also known as "giving your opponent unnecessary life when you are crushing them."
Also, don't pay any attention when network that broadcast the game, which won't be named here, will showcase Portland's effort in this game tonight, highlighting the inane race to make the game as close as (GASP) six point with under two minutes to play.
This game was defined by fantastic team defense from the Hawks, an effort that involved everybody, featured impeccable defensive rotations, began to erase the scouting report of hammering the Hawks point guards (unless there are neither of them in the game at the time), and held Portland to (49) points in the first three quarters.
The Hawks, save for the final 9 minutes of the game, stayed aggressive throughout, getting to the free throw line and getting enough fast breaks to reward their defensive rebounding and intensity.
The Stars:
He was almost given away for post-Joe financial issues, but Zaza Pachulia came through after Al Horford found himself in foul trouble the likes he hadn't seen since his first two seasons. Zaza gobbled up (12) rebounds, six of which were offensive.
I also liked the rebound game (literal and figurative) from Marvin Williams tonight. The Stache played only 28 minutes, but had 11 points, 7 rebounds, and had a pair of steals. Probably should be wondering why he wasn't out there more for the fourth quarter..and by probably I mean, figure it out Larry Drew.
Also:
Joe Johnson had an odd game. He never seemed to be making a positive impact on the game, and he was largely at the center of the game's worst offensive stint for the Hawks. Yet there he is, rocking a 9-16, 22 point game to lead the team.
The officiating was bizarre. I hadn't ever seen the Hawks get every call when they went to the hoop, but they did in the first half. It wasn't as if Portland was doing the same and not getting the calls---they weren't, but most everyone watching assumed the tables would turn in the second half, and they did. But that wasn't the cause of the fourth quarter "comeback" by Portland--it was the prevent offense the Hawks launched with way too much time left on the clock.
Jeff Teague looked good--and should have played more, but I'm sure he violated some unwritten rule of the court and that's why, despite his effective defense and play overall, he got the Royal Ivey treatment out there tonight.
Making that matter worse was that Drew, with Teague under house arrest and Hinrich not knowing the offense well enough to initiate, I guess, had Jamal Crawford running the offense. He's not a point guard, and no matter how many ways Drew thinks he sees it, he's not. 6 turnovers against a single assist would probably get Teague banished to the D-League or left at the team hotel, but that was Jamal's line tonight. There is no reason. You have Teague and you have Hinrich--stop the madness.
Horford picked up some weak fouls---he earned them, and it was far too familiar from his early years when he would pick up a couple off the ball, get a couple of illegal screens, and generally couldn't keep himself on the floor.
Next Game: Monday night, at Denver, 9pm EST.
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I thought it was interesting that the announcers talked about Drew commenting about needing leadership at the point
—does that mean that Bibby wasn’t getting them in the offense often enough?
They were idiots
Teams in order of frequency discussed during the game tonight:
1. Blazers
2. Heat
3. Lakers
4. Knicks
5. Hawks—and they were shallow and worthless when they did discuss them. Just leave us alone, network.
by Jason Walker on Feb 28, 2011 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
you forgot about the thunder... and the bulls. (even though they didn't even play)
doris was better with her analysis of the hawks (and even brought out the road record and +.500 record) but the halftime show was utter garbage. sportscenter isn’t any better.
by Bryant Singleton on Feb 28, 2011 1:45 AM EST up reply actions
Im pretty sure they aslo talked about orlando
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable. the other half is close to the cliff like Mrs Huckstable
If Tyrone Hill and Sam Cassell had a staring contest, who would win?
On an unknown date in the year 2012, Mike Brown and Mike Woodson will come together to discuss offensive strategies.
Doris mentioned Dwight several times
Are the Hawks really that boring to everyone else?
by coachkcastellon on Feb 28, 2011 2:10 AM EST up reply actions
I found that comment weird too.
I thought they kind of threw Drew under the bus there.
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by Bryant Singleton on Feb 28, 2011 1:21 AM EST reply actions
Maybe people might start going to the games now
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable. the other half is close to the cliff like Mrs Huckstable
If Tyrone Hill and Sam Cassell had a staring contest, who would win?
On an unknown date in the year 2012, Mike Brown and Mike Woodson will come together to discuss offensive strategies.
If they play like the first 3 quarters of this game more often...
but this next 10-12 games is the real deal for this team this year. We will absolutely see what they are made of and if this defense can hold up against the best in the league.
Awesome
A team effort as solid as the work on the court tonight.
by Jason Walker on Feb 28, 2011 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
I think Teague played well
happy to see him getting playing time.
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable. the other half is close to the cliff like Mrs Huckstable
If Tyrone Hill and Sam Cassell had a staring contest, who would win?
On an unknown date in the year 2012, Mike Brown and Mike Woodson will come together to discuss offensive strategies.
Yeah, he's really a pest on D
—personally I think it makes up for his lack of shooting rather a lot.
he knocked down a teardrop and played great D.
only negative is that he can’t finish with contact. he is still throwing the ball hard off the backboard.
with experience, he’ll learn how to slow down and knock down his blowby layups.
by Bryant Singleton on Feb 28, 2011 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah he looked very unconfidant and discouraged
He just needs to get ~20 games where he just gets real action to get his confidence up. We really can’t keep relying on lucky Jamal shots to bail us out of every game, Teague’s clearly our only hope of a real PG any time soon
by coachkcastellon on Feb 28, 2011 2:13 AM EST up reply actions
It's basically his rookie year....
Gotta have pt to grow
by Jhovan on Feb 28, 2011 1:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
From what I got to see of the game while at the gym:
Atlanta played efficient defense plus our shots just weren’t falling.
It’s good to see Hinrich in your uniform instead.
A deserved win for the Hawks, good luck in the future.
- Blazers Fan #24017
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Things would have been a lot different in this game if Roy/Wallace were playing full minutes
by coachkcastellon on Feb 28, 2011 2:14 AM EST up reply actions
highly doubt it.
Hawks defense palyed too well for them to matter.
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by Anonymous HawksGuy on Feb 28, 2011 8:14 AM EST up reply actions
I am a bulls fan
havent much payed attention to hawks, or to be honest cared about them. I mainly started watching to see how hinrich would play. This game featured a bunch of my favorite players, the two top ones being gerald wallace and kirk hinrich so it was extra special for me to watch.
Well…long story short…I think the hawks may become my 2nd nba team (everyone has one right…right?!) For a while it was going to portland when they had a good Rudy fernandez and excellent brandon roy, but i never got into portland cuz their fans sort of bothered me (hard to explain, nothing wrong with them, just….i dont know)
At any rate, i watched both of hinrichs games as a hawk, and i gotta say, the defense this team plays is astounding. I dont know if it was always like that, but the last two games, man…
Right now this team is playing a type of basketball that i thoroughly enjoy, one that involves ball movement, terrific defense, and just a lot of hardworking. You dont see guys pining for calls all the time, you dont see guys who think they are entitled to anything, just a bunch of guys working hard together. If this is how the hawks are going to play from here on out, it will be a joy to watch them. Today was fun
Thanks hawk fans, and i hope you enjoy having hinrich on your team
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Ever since the bibster left (moment of silence)
us hawks fans are still getting used to this thing called “defense” from a point guard
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable. the other half is close to the cliff like Mrs Huckstable
If Tyrone Hill and Sam Cassell had a staring contest, who would win?
On an unknown date in the year 2012, Mike Brown and Mike Woodson will come together to discuss offensive strategies.
Honestly, we're getting used to all of those attributes too
—wondering if they are for real or not. But this much is a known known: Bibby and Crawford compromised Johnson’s defense and perhaps his offense as well; Bibby and Crawford compromised the rest of the team’s defense too. Hinrich and Teague can cover more for Crawford, and when Crawford is out, the entire team defense concept can involve a lot more playing the passing lanes for steals and good defensive rebounding (as opposed to constantly having to rotate all over the floor because there’s one guy on the floor who cannot guard anyone in the league).
It's funny
But earning the Royal Ivey treatment is actually a big step up for Jeff Teague.
by Bronn on Feb 28, 2011 3:48 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Defese Defense Defense
Wwhat a difference the Hawks defense has made in the last 2 games!!! With Kirk and Teague, this team seems so much more energetic.
Jamal has had his explosion last night, it was about due. He has a big game, and then goes quiet. I thought JJ was great in every part of the game, I did not think he was under radar or anything. Zaza was a force. With Lion hardly playing, Zaza was everywhere rebounding. That is what Hawks need from him, not scoring but rebounding like a mad man every night.
And give it for Smoove, for even though the outside shot was not going in, he was giving it his all on defense and offense and running and all.
A solid game, I would not change the starting rotation or the rotations in general. Let Teague get confidence, and Kirk finish things off. Another tough game tonight. Hope Zaza and Marvin bring it again.
What a game
McMillian “dropped the ball” on this one… Camby and Roy where limited to min, and nate played them all of those minute’s in the first half… all of them, really nate?? they bring in Wallace on friday, he can’t play because of trade conditions (fit tests on traded players)… and on the next day he gives his players the day off…. no practice together… welcome to portland wallace, isnt it nice here, by the way take the day off, no need to work with them yet, you can do that the first day you actually play with them, it more fun that way… WOW! then in his first game, you play him out of position at PF when aldridge goes out hurt, he’s semi affective as he plays good defence but shaky on offense playing mostly out of position and not on the fast break… and then when you’ve used him inafectively you deside to take out your new best defensive player and not use him in the 3rd quarter but instead put in a bunch of 3 point shooters who weren’t hitting their shots in the first half in hopes they might come back and tie the game? really nate and when you put him bac in the 4th then it becomes almost a game again… ugh… ok enough of that rant..
give it to the hawks, great defense, took aldridge out of his game, part of that was to the referee’ing (blazer fans were gonna hang the ref’s by half time), but was due to him getting hurt (blazer fans still waiting to find out what happened there to take him out for so long in the first half) but damn, hawks clamped down on the blazers, who is this backup center you have, can we trade you for him? we’ll give you luke babbit and a cup of soup! sorry, blazers are so short handed and injurded thats all they can afford to give right now after the wallace trade :( jamal crawford was off the hook tonight! him and roy had words after the game, wonder if roy was trying to get him to leave the hawks and come to the blazers as our 6th man, GET ON IT ROY!!! lol but nice game hawks… blazers will see you in 13 days or so.. hopefully they’ll have their rhythem by then and a few more big bodys to throw at you, give you alittle more of a game, cause I’m sure most of you were asleep by half time when this game was LONG OVER… see you in 13 days!
by blazefanin97123 on Feb 28, 2011 6:07 AM EST reply actions
Blazerfan97123 trust me, we were up late watching.
There is no “this game is in the bag” with the Hawks. And when u guys come to the Highlight Factory, be prepared for that season sweep. Again.
by xavip on Feb 28, 2011 8:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Recap
Had my post ready but got hammered by a computer virus. I got an email yesterday about a potential virus on this site. Has anyone else experienced anything?
@KrisPTHoops
thanks
If anyone else has a problem let me know. I wont be able to post updates until I get this sorted out.
@KrisPTHoops
by Kris Willis on Feb 28, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
No problems here so far. Is it a virus in an ad perhaps? Firefox with AdBlock Plus is nice to avoid those. :)
I believe so.
My web scanner pops a warning while loading the adds. They load typically after the actual page content for me.
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
Yeah, I have
I got two warnings this morning
The game is the game.
by a hooter's baby on Feb 28, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I have AdBlock on Firefox and mine is A-OK
Must be a bad advertisement.
I'm on the Twitter: twitter.com/edgrohl
yeah
its a phishing and pharming scam. It seems to be a variation to the “windows defender” virus that went around last year. It pretends to be your virus scanner and as soon as try to use it as one you have it on your computer. Nasty thing won’t leave your computer unless you use an updated virus scanner or Combofix.
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
Captain K gave Zaza a top ten play opportunity
on a fast break with Jamal and it was sooooo awkward. Zaza is too goofey. Kirk meet Zaza. Zaza, Kirk.
by HoopsHighlights&Hope on Feb 28, 2011 10:20 AM EST reply actions
He made the same pass a couple of weeks ago to Al Thornton
And got one of the Top 10 Wiz dunks of the year out of it.
Doubt he makes that pass to ZaZa again. ;)
I've only watched the 1st quarter in detail thus far
But here are my notes:
1. JJ was getting beat early and often. After rewinding and watching the individual plays a few times, it wasn’t so much that he was defending and geting beat as it was him taking his eyes off his man and letting them slip under for backdoor cuts. -1
2. Smith was driving. I definitely had a couple of those “oh dear god no…yes, yes, yes” moments. He started his shooting motion a couple of times, the defender started coming out hard, he brings the ball back down and drove to the lane and scored. Yeah, he took a couple jumpers as well, but none of which were out of the flow of the offense, i.e. kick out passes. +1
3. Zaza was beastin on the boards. Interesting that he got so many minutes after a DNP-CD and the comments made by Drew, regardless of Horford’s foul issues early in the game. Clearly those things combined with the possible trade sparked something in him and he absolutely out worked Portland down low on both sides of the court. Seven total rebounds in the first quarter alone and he drew a few fouls of his own. +1
4. No offensive movement. There was some iso going on, but not all of it was true iso. It was more like no one wanted to move off the ball. Sure, they passed the rock around, but I felt like I was watching a stop motion flick and I saw very few “sets” being run. I’m not sure why that was the case, but I didn’t like it. -1
Also, this may not have been in the first quarter, but after inbounding the ball, Smith looks to pass it to a guard, see Hinrich and almost let’s it go, turns and instead gives it to JJ to bring up. Interesting thing to watch happen after the trade.
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
i saw your last bullet as well
i think it might be cuz hinrichs the new guy, not some all star, and yet expected to be a starter…ive heard that the hawks were all pretty close with bibby so they might not be comfortable with hinrich “leading” the team at the pg position. I think there were a bunch of those awkward moments
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Feb 28, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Finished watching the rest of the game yesterday.
Have you guys noticed that when we get a decent lead that we go to a lot of iso-joe & iso in general, almost like it’s our prevent defense?
Also, this game was full of lazy passing. Many of our turnovers were the result of players lobbing the ball around like they were tossing a beer to their bro’s in the living room instead of passing with precision. They need to clean that mess up.
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
Defense?
I mean, not that it wasn’t good defense, but Portland missed a ton of wide open threes. That’s just bad offense. Portland did a fine job of finding Fernandez, Matthews, and Batum open beyond the arc, but they couldn’t knock ‘em down. No matter who they’re playing, they lose when none of those guys can get it going. And they had as many wide open opportunities as they could have hoped for.
I don’t mean to disparage your team — I like Atlanta, a lot — but that was a stinker. These teams have played some great games the last few years, and I was hoping for another one of those. Oh well.
Please
You could just as easily say that the pressure the Hawks were putting on them kept them from getting it going.
Go belittle someone else’s team
This site has been hacked into I believe
Almost everytime I come back to this site my virus scanner blocks a fake webpage request. More than likely someone has messed with the domain name of this site and replaced it with their mal-ware site….(challoy.com/stats_js_e.php?id=100014) or their destination address for you networkers (212.124.113.70, 80). Last year I got the windows defender virus that looked like windows defender but was a hard to remove virus.
Be careful and have your virus scanners updated hawks fans
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
I have also contacted support at SBNation and copied these comments to help find a quick solution here.
by Jason Walker on Feb 28, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
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