NBA Trade Deadline: Open Comment Thread (Updated)
by Kris Willis on Feb 24, 2011 12:01 PM EST
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PrintThe trade deadline is today at 3 p.m. ET.
Deals completed:
- The Chicago Bulls trade James Johnson to the Toronto Raptors for a 2011 first-round pick.
- In a three team deal, The Knicks acquire Carmelo Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Renaldo Blackman, Anthony Carter, and Sheldon Williams. Denver gets Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Kosta Koufous, Timofey Mozgov, $3 million in cash, 2014 first-round pick from the Knicks, and 2012, 2013 second-round picks from the Knicks. Minnesota acquires Eddy Curry, Anthony Randolph, 2015 second-round pick from Denver, and $3 million in cash.
- The Utah Jazz trade Deron Williams to New Jersey for Derrick Favors, Devin Harris, and 2011 & 2012 first-round picks.
- The New Orleands Hornets trade Marcus Thornton and cash considerations to Sacramento for Carl Landry
- The Golden State Warriors trade Brandan Wright and Dan Gadzurich to New Jersey for Troy Murphy and a 2012 second-round pick.
- The Atlanta Hawks trade Mike Bibby, Jordan Crawford, Maurice Evans, and a 2011 first-round pick to the Washington Wizards for Kirk Hinrich and Hilton Armstrong.
- The Los Angeles Clippers trade Baron Davis and a 2011 first-round pick to Cleveland for Jamario Moon and Mo Williams.
- The Boston Celtics trade Kendrick Perkins and Nate Robinson to Oklahoma City for Jeff Green and Nenad Krstic.
- The Boston Celtics trade Semih Erden and Luke Harangody to the Cleveland Cavaliers for a 2013 second-round pick
- The Houston Rockets trade Shane Battier and Ish Smith to Memphis for Hasheem Thabeet and a future first-round pick.
- The Charlotte Bobcats trade Nazr Mohammed to Oklahoma City for D.J. White and Morris Peterson.
- The Houston Rockets trade Aaron Brooks to the Phoenix Suns for Goran Dragic and a future first-round pick.
- The Charlotte Bobcats trade Gerald Wallace to Portland for Dante Cunningham, Joel Przybilla, Sean Marks, 2011 & 2013 first-round picks, and cash considerations.
- The Boston Celtics trade Marquis Daniels and cash considerations to Sacramento for a 2017 second-round pick.
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The possibility of trading Zaza intrigues me....I wasn't expecting that at all.
Can't eat sushi in Utah, brother.....Landlocked
Where does that rumor come from?
haven’t seen it
Reports are that they are shopping Josh also
but asking for a ton in return. Has to be a home run trade if we move Josh.
@KrisPTHoops
Having traded for Heinrich already, it would seem unlikely they would trade Josh for another PG. I can’t think of a C who might be available who would be worth Josh (I assume Dwight Howard isn’t on the trade block). Who is out there the Hawks might want back in a Josh trade?
I was sitting here trying to think myself
Just sounds like a home run attempt to me. Like they call New Orleans and say hey we will trade you Josh for Chris Paul and then the Hornets politely hang up the phone.
Really though I have no idea. I guess Al Jefferson is probably available but would the Hawks be willing to do that?
@KrisPTHoops
by Kris Willis on Feb 24, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Does it have to be a PG or C?
Could they go after a true SF instead? Or maybe two really good players at SF and C?
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
Does anyone remember when zaza had that double double the first game of the season
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If Tyrone Hill and Sam Cassell had a staring contest, who would win?
On an unknown date in the year 2012, Mike Brown and Mike Woodson will come together to discuss offensive strategies.
No just you, he fooled all of us
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If Tyrone Hill and Sam Cassell had a staring contest, who would win?
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More rumors
From Hoopsworld:
“Keep an eye on Dallas; they have been linked to Atlanta’s Josh Smith, Miami’s Mike Miller and Detroit’s Tayshaun Prince, and seem poised to make a deal…”
My question is
Who would we want from Dallas?
The game is the game.
by a hooter's baby on Feb 24, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Mark Cuban
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If Tyrone Hill and Sam Cassell had a staring contest, who would win?
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by Throw on Feb 24, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I would take that deal
More money………Dallas is old and they have no hot commodities
The game is the game.
by a hooter's baby on Feb 24, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
I would take him over our owners anyday
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If Tyrone Hill and Sam Cassell had a staring contest, who would win?
On an unknown date in the year 2012, Mike Brown and Mike Woodson will come together to discuss offensive strategies.
I would take
the Fulton County School Board over our owners
The game is the game.
by a hooter's baby on Feb 24, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
HAHA, why not clayton county?
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If Tyrone Hill and Sam Cassell had a staring contest, who would win?
On an unknown date in the year 2012, Mike Brown and Mike Woodson will come together to discuss offensive strategies.
Lol
It can’t get any worse than them
The game is the game.
by a hooter's baby on Feb 24, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Harper Valley PTA?
You youngsters won’t get that reference.
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by Duff_Man on Feb 24, 2011 2:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm afraid people would just sock it to them regularly, though.
by hailtogeorgia on Feb 24, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
You win the internet.
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by Duff_Man on Feb 24, 2011 2:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't know but they were trying to give Caron Butler and a No. 1 for Tayshaun Prince
I would instantly jump the Mavs bandwagon if Josh went there
Nobody. But maybe in a 3 team trade with another team
The 1 piece Dallas has that I like is Beaubois.
by xavip on Feb 24, 2011 12:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Excellent trade getting Hinrich. He had been languishing on a crappy Wizards team. he’s a far better upgrade than Mike Bibby. that’s for sure.
by Jeffrey Thompson on Feb 24, 2011 1:56 PM EST reply actions
Wasn't there a trade...
Involving the Clippers (Davis, No. 1) and the Cavs (Williams)? Maybe it’s not official?
As for the Hawks, the more I think about our team with Hinrich v. Bibby, the more I like the move.
I am a fan of the Dawgs, Falcons, and Braves...oh...and tacos, but I like the other three more.
Im starting to think that too
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable. the other half is close to the cliff like Mrs Huckstable
If Tyrone Hill and Sam Cassell had a staring contest, who would win?
On an unknown date in the year 2012, Mike Brown and Mike Woodson will come together to discuss offensive strategies.
From SI...
At work and too lazy to paraphrase, but I like this analysis by Zach Lowe:
Nabbing Hinrich doesn’t make the Hawks a title contender, but it feels like the kind of move that could have a bigger impact on the court than many anticipate. Start with this: Hinrich can defend point guards. Very well. And that addresses the main problem with Atlanta’s defense, which ranks about average despite the Hawks’ having faced the easiest schedule in the league. It isn’t just that Bibby can’t defend point guards; it’s the degree to which the Hawks have had to compensate for the 32-year-old’s defensive issues. They’ve had to tire out Johnson by assigning him point guard duty. They’ve gone to zone defenses that haven’t really worked. They’ve switched too often, though less so this season under rookie coach Larry Drew.
They can toss out those gimmicks now and go to work with lineups like Hinrich, Johnson, Marvin Williams, Josh Smith and Al Horford. That works.
The Hawks will miss Bibby’s shooting, but it’s not as if they are losing a pick-and-roll stud who initiates most of their sets. Bibby handles the ball some, but he’s usually a spot-up shooter and screen-setter in Drew’s offense, which mixes in motion plays, post-ups and lots of off-the-dribble work for Johnson and Jamal Crawford. Hinrich, 30, can step into Bibby’s role immediately, and he happens to be shooting a solid 38 percent from three-point range (and a career-best 45 percent overall) this season.
One small bonus that Ira Winderman of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel picked up on immediately: Hinrich is 6-3, tall and strong for a point guard, and he has defended a ton of shooting guards through a career of shifting between the two backcourt positions. That gives Atlanta a nice answer for when Miami goes to lineups that don’t include traditional point guards, and if the Heat earn the top seed in the Eastern Conference, there’s at least a small chance the two teams will meet in the second round.
I am a fan of the Dawgs, Falcons, and Braves...oh...and tacos, but I like the other three more.
That is some great stuff right there.
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by Duff_Man on Feb 24, 2011 2:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Now that I think about, this will hep us defensely
Its just the fact that I now have to root for Heinrich which hurts me the most. For the past 2 years I have been going to his games just to heckle him. Its gonna be hard for me
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable. the other half is close to the cliff like Mrs Huckstable
If Tyrone Hill and Sam Cassell had a staring contest, who would win?
On an unknown date in the year 2012, Mike Brown and Mike Woodson will come together to discuss offensive strategies.
Yeah...
I didn’t think of the effect that Hinrich would have on the OTHER players. Sure, I knew that he was better defensively than Bibby, but keeping guys like Joe Johnson fresh is huge. Also, a backcourt of Crawford and Bibby still makes me crinch—Hinrich and Crawford…much better.
While I still think that Boston is the team to beat in the East (I do…sorry), I like the Hawks’ chances much more now than I did 24 hours ago. Maybe, just maybe, Hinrich is the piece we needed to have our team play the way it should play (i.e. guys don’t have to play out of position as much). Lord knows that last night’s game was rough.
Did we give up too much? Maybe, but really, other than the #1 pick, what did Washington really receive? Old man Bibby, a project, and a waste of space (sorry Mo). Let’s be honest with ourselves, for that package, we did pretty darn well. As others had said, Hinrich is more of a sure thing than any late round first round pick our management would select—we weren’t finding a Rondo in the draft.
And I haven’t even discussed the potential of Armstrong (minimal, but it’s there).
I am a fan of the Dawgs, Falcons, and Braves...oh...and tacos, but I like the other three more.
Wow, Hinrich is 30?
Man, I’m getting old.
by hailtogeorgia on Feb 24, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Raise your hand
if you knew Josh Powell was on twitter
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by a hooter's baby on Feb 24, 2011 2:35 PM EST reply actions
Im shocked his stone hands know how to use a keyboard
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable. the other half is close to the cliff like Mrs Huckstable
If Tyrone Hill and Sam Cassell had a staring contest, who would win?
On an unknown date in the year 2012, Mike Brown and Mike Woodson will come together to discuss offensive strategies.
Boston-OKC trade
Perkins and Hawk Killer Nate Robinson for Jeff Green and some other people
The game is the game.
by a hooter's baby on Feb 24, 2011 2:58 PM EST reply actions
Didn't they have Green to begin with?
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
Not really
He was picked by them but immediately traded for Ray Allen
The game is the game.
by a hooter's baby on Feb 24, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
That's what I thought
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
I will be pretty pissed if we are done.
Especially if we were hanging Marvin, Zaza and Josh out there. Something had to be available.
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by Duff_Man on Feb 24, 2011 3:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Lol
Somebody actually wanted Hasheem Thabeet?!
The game is the game.
by a hooter's baby on Feb 24, 2011 3:26 PM EST reply actions
Boston making dumb deals
they traded Perkins and Erden? They also got rid of the" New Scalabrine" Luke Harangody. Celtic fans are going to riot
The game is the game.
by a hooter's baby on Feb 24, 2011 3:32 PM EST reply actions
Charlotte punts
Crash goes to Portland for Pryz and a 2nd round pick (what?)
Nazr Mohammad goes to OKC for White and Mo Pete.
Conflicting reports
It might be 2 1st rounders instead of a 2nd, but it is still a punt on the season in Charlotte.
Hopefully, the Hawks make another move
All I can say right now is that I’ll be heavily disappointed if no additional trade for the Hawks goes through before the deadline. Hinrich is a solid upgrade at PG over Mike Bibby, but I don’t feel very confident going forward if our personnel stays as is. Many Eastern Conference teams have made improvements through trades in the last few days, and I’m not saying that our roster isn’t formidable, but with the way Drew has been using our players so far, I don’t feel confident that we can make major noise in the playoffs going forward without a big move. I just hope another deal is made.
Zaza for Brad Miller? The most recent of rumors!
1.QB Ryan Mallett 2.CB Jalil Brown 3.CB Kendric Burney 4. G Ben Ijalana 4.NT Kendrick Ellis 5.S Tyler Sash 6.WR Lester Jean 6.RB Chad Spann 7.OLB Jamari Lattimore 7.Kicker 7.CB Richard Sherman
I can't get behind that at all.
Seems like a dumb deal.
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by Duff_Man on Feb 24, 2011 4:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
How? Zaza offers nothing but fine dining to the team
Brad Miller at least has to be guarded when near the perimeter, creating more space for our true inside offensive players in Horford, Smith, and Johnson.
1.QB Ryan Mallett 2.CB Jalil Brown 3.CB Kendric Burney 4. G Ben Ijalana 4.NT Kendrick Ellis 5.S Tyler Sash 6.WR Lester Jean 6.RB Chad Spann 7.OLB Jamari Lattimore 7.Kicker 7.CB Richard Sherman
yes but all time is connected is it not!!!!??!
1.QB Ryan Mallett 2.CB Jalil Brown 3.CB Kendric Burney 4. G Ben Ijalana 4.NT Kendrick Ellis 5.S Tyler Sash 6.WR Lester Jean 6.RB Chad Spann 7.OLB Jamari Lattimore 7.Kicker 7.CB Richard Sherman
Zaza birth certificate is a fake according to Jeff Van Gundy :)
(I think it was jeff)
1.QB Ryan Mallett 2.CB Jalil Brown 3.CB Kendric Burney 4. G Ben Ijalana 4.NT Kendrick Ellis 5.S Tyler Sash 6.WR Lester Jean 6.RB Chad Spann 7.OLB Jamari Lattimore 7.Kicker 7.CB Richard Sherman
"New Hawk Hilton Armstrong(notes), however, isn't much of an NBA player, while Jordan Crawford may have rotation-level talent for the Wizards."
This quote makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
Can't eat sushi in Utah, brother.....Landlocked
I was more concerned with the garbage we're receiving....
the role of useless big man has already been filled on our team…SEE ETAN THOMAS
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that's it?
So it seems that was the only Hawks deal. It should be interesting to see if Heinrich is enough for the Hawks to hold off the Knicks and keep the 5th seed.
Well the PG position is squarely in the hands of Kirk, Jamal, and Jeff
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
It is disappointing we could not trade Zaza
Now I have to watch him getting stripped off the ball every time he goes inside for the rest of the season. Well at least he seems to have learnt Basketball 101 on how not to set a moving screen lately
Maybe
A lot of teams were supposedly in search of a big man. We found no good offers for Zaza. I think that would point to either we wanted too much (unlikely) or that people really didn’t want his contract heading into the new CBA.
So Boston trades two of their bigs for a second round pick?
they could have given us that but i guess they wouldn’t do it in conference
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
You mean Erden & Harangoody?
Went in conference, just to Cleveland. We had the exceptions to do such a deal, but we would have had to cut someone and pay luxury tax to do so. I suspect that since Cleveland bought out former Celtic Leon Powe that there was a wink-wink understanding in the move. Powe might be resigning with Boston soon.
On the sad side Erden who was given away has similar numbers to Zaza this season at a tenth of the price.
This may sound random
but im trying to explain to my friend the Mike Bibby crab dance and how I will miss it. Does anyone have video on this so I can show him?
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable. the other half is close to the cliff like Mrs Huckstable
If Tyrone Hill and Sam Cassell had a staring contest, who would win?
On an unknown date in the year 2012, Mike Brown and Mike Woodson will come together to discuss offensive strategies.
Great job Kris
The celtics deal is still the strangest of the bunch. What a crazy move! Just don’t get it. I mean i get the dynamics of them possibly losing Perkins after the season, but they just did away with their strongest area (big men) and put all their money on very old often injured players. They may have made a world championship mistake by trading Perkins to OKC.
I agree
The move may have been brought on by his rejecting their extension offer but I don’t think they should have made a move until after the season. I really OKC now and wouldn’t it be crazy if Boston played them in the finals?
@KrisPTHoops
Hawks second pick-up
Is Armstrong enough of a player to take Collins place in the lineup? Can he play center? Then we move Marvin to bench to strengthen the bench? And Collins and Damien there also.
I'm skeptical
but I guess we start to see how it plays out tonight. I will be glad when they get off the west coast, these 10:30 starts are killing me
@KrisPTHoops
Yes the 10:30 starts are late
but always kind of surreal so I don’t mind them, as long as we start winning a few. I really am wanting to show some passion but they are killing my positive juices
the celtics deal was strategy
Sending Perkins could help OKC knock out LA. And the celtics get younger with Jeff Green when they have to play Miami (supposedly)
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
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