Instant Reaction: Hawks 106, Nets 70
First Thought: Opening Night Blowout---but it a good way!
Summary: The Hawks used an opening 28-11 quarter to control the pace/flow of the game and never look back.
What Happened:
The Nets came back from (21) last night against the Wizards and you would hope that the Hawks would take advantage of a team like the Nets who might be a little weary from that type of game plus missing their center, Brook Lopez to get ahead early.
The Hawks did that with a little bit of fortune in hitting a number of long jump shots early, messing with the Nets defensively, and a whole lot of rebounding. The final total for rebounding was 51-36 Hawks, and the Nets were held to (9) offensive rebounds. Kris Humphries had (7) all by himself in that comeback against the Wizards.
The Nets were often one-and-done on the offensive end, and the Hawks used good ball movement and a strong bench effort to build on that first quarter run instead of letting the Nets back into the game in any way.
You wouldn't think that the Hawks would be in such a position to put a team away early without a huge effort from Al Horford, Joe Johnson, and Josh Smith, but those three combined for (24) points the whole game and only factored in positively in spots throughout their considerably shortened effort in Newark Tuesday night.
Deep(er) Thoughts:
Deron Williams: 3-11, 1 assist, 6 turnover, -22. Yowza.
The bench scored (55) points, giving all those (like myself) pause to reconsider that depth could be the Hawks big issue. And the way they did it on both ends made the Nets look like a very flimsy team.
Josh Smith may have lost (25) pounds, but he has not lost the will to jack long 2-point jump shots early in the shot clock after one pass. He did, however, regain the ability to explode on trail blocks. The (1) blocked shot he was credited with underrates his flying presence on the defensive end tonight.
Everybody played----except for Jason Collins----no Dwight Howard yet in New Jersey.
Tracy McGrady played an "up" game for him. Keep in mind that, throughout this year, you will see ups and downs from him due to his age and considerable mileage. This is what took place last year in Detroit--and was overall a positive player off the bench for the Pistons. Tonight McGrady created his shot, got to the basket, and played very well.
T-Mac must have been shocked not to get calls that he has historically received on his way to the hoop. He got a single call among his (10) shots, but could have easily received (3) more. Welcome to Atlanta and life as a rotation player, T! Despite that, he shot 5-10 and looked crisp doing it---it was good to see him as a Hawk.
Oh, one more thing...the Hawks deployed a press tonight.....and it worked! This is where a good lottery ticket joke would come in handy. Too many things to summarize---go back and watch the game again. Excellent defense, good offense, and everything went right in a blowout that rested all the starters in the fourth quarter. Best case scenario.
Three Stars:
Coming into the season, all eyes are on Jeff Teague as a potential difference maker. Tonight, Teague showed some of why Hawk fans why against the Nets with a solid 24 minute, 5-7 shooting, 13 point, 3 assist night. It might have been nice to see him assert himself a little more because, when he did, he was hard for Deron Williams, Sundiata Gaines, or any New Jersey Net to contain. Also as a testament to Teague's impact---please see Williams' line again above. Teague (among others) made Williams look like he mailed this game in.
He didn't make (6) of his (9) shots, but that's nit-picking when it comes to Marvin Williams' effort tonight. He had the key offensive rebounds early, assisted the second team in the second quarter with his energy, and got to the line enough to provide a 14 point/9 rebound effort in only (22) minutes. Oh, and he also rocked a kickin' fro---power to the people, dig.
Vladiza Radchulia was a big reason the Hawks never had to rely on the starters to pull away and stay away in this game. Radchulia combined for a 10-17, 30 point, 14 rebound effort. The Vladimir Radmanovich part of the that equation hit some early threes, and played an energetic, mistake free game, leading the Hawks with (17) points.He also had (5) assists and (4) steals, also team leads. Zaza Pachulia did his part, getting a double-double with (13) points and (11) rebounds, (8) of which were offensive. The Nets had no bigs that could go with either the first or second team of Hawks bigs, saying a lot about how Brook Lopez not being there impacts this team.
What's Next:
Not long to bask in the relative glory of this game as the Hawks open at home, tomorrow, against the Washington Wizards. Jeff Teague has matched up against Derrick Rose, Deron Williams, and tomorrow John Wall in his last three regular season games. He's proving something, folks.
Check out Kris Willis' Game Summary tomorrow morning and stay close to the site, Twitter, and Facebook for news throughout the day, culminating in the first home Game Thread of the season tomorrow afternoon for the 730pm EST game.
Goodnight everybody---thanks for your participation on the game thread and Let's Go Hawks!
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Insanity.
Ron Artest = Ron (sm)Artest - He Is The Most Interesting Man In The World
by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Dec 27, 2011 9:52 PM EST reply actions
VladRad
Wow, i knew he could shoot, I didnt know he had a very good all around game as well. He might be a steal for his price. And TMac looked pretty good, he wasnt getting calls but him and Vlad made things happen for the bench
Deeper bench & Teague
To me those are the main discoery items from tonight.
Teague can do it all. He has to be still a little more careful with his handles, but otherwise, simply a great performance.
The bench, is deep. Perhaps no one with talent like Jamal, but now with T-Mac, Rad, Ivan, Zaza, PArgo, that is a good bench. And Captain Kirk still to come.
actually if they play this well without Kirk
then the smart thing to do would be to TRADE Kirk. I don’t think we will be able to do this to good teams, but let’s not get enamored with Kirk – his value may very well be in his contract
Hawk Str8Talk
by Hawk Str8Talk on Dec 27, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Well
We shouldn’t pretend like Jannero Pargo and Willie Green are solid pieces, despite being effective at certain things against the Nets. So no, I wouldn’t be a rush to trade a guy who has limited trade value right now.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
I did say IF
IF Willie Green and Pargo were reasonably good – I’d trade Kirk as soon as he showed some good-ness to someone to get us a big body or a 1st rounder back
Hawk Str8Talk
by Hawk Str8Talk on Dec 27, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Even Ivan Johnson had 4 rebounds in 6 minutes
This is a different bench, where we can go to them for something besides shot-happy guards.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
shot happy guards that cant play defense
"A ‘No’ uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a ‘Yes’ merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
Mohandas Gandhi
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Jesus
"We were real solid on both ends of the floor today and had positive energy coming from the bench tonight."
Jeff Teague
Flip Murray, three years ago
Actually played impressively on defense.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
I meant that as a comment on jamal
but your right I liked flip when he was here
"A ‘No’ uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a ‘Yes’ merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
Mohandas Gandhi
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Jesus
"We were real solid on both ends of the floor today and had positive energy coming from the bench tonight."
Jeff Teague
I was looking back a good bit longer
Before Jamal, it was Flip Murray, before that it was Tyronn Lue and Salim Stoudamire.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
You typed the name Salim Stoudamire
Wash your hands now
I know where the bodies are buried.....I buried some of them myself. - David Stern
by a hooter's baby on Dec 27, 2011 10:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That guy was filthy good on offense.
And just filthy on defense…
Ron Artest = Ron (sm)Artest - He Is The Most Interesting Man In The World
by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Dec 27, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Tyronn lue.............
you just reminded me how bad we used to be
"A ‘No’ uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a ‘Yes’ merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
Mohandas Gandhi
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Jesus
"We were real solid on both ends of the floor today and had positive energy coming from the bench tonight."
Jeff Teague
Tyronn Lue's backup was...
Anthony Johnson
by jdewayneatl on Dec 27, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Hey!
AJ was one of my favs
I know where the bodies are buried.....I buried some of them myself. - David Stern
by a hooter's baby on Dec 27, 2011 10:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
*crying*
was this the era of speedy claxton
"A ‘No’ uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a ‘Yes’ merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
Mohandas Gandhi
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Jesus
"We were real solid on both ends of the floor today and had positive energy coming from the bench tonight."
Jeff Teague
Willie Green wen 2-10 for 5 points
And was +17. lol.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
Prediction:
The three stars will be Marvin, Zaza, and VladRad.
A couple times the speed of Teague broke down the defense and he was able to pass it out
we never saw that last year
"A ‘No’ uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a ‘Yes’ merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
Mohandas Gandhi
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Jesus
"We were real solid on both ends of the floor today and had positive energy coming from the bench tonight."
Jeff Teague
Lots of guys played some impressive defense
Vladimir Radmanovic looked really good on D. T-Mac looked really good on D. Willie Green on D. Plus some of the old stand-bys playing great defense-Zaza, Marvin, JJ. It was impressively well played on defense. Even Pargo did some good work on defense.
I have almost no complaints at all about anything that happened. This looked like a playoff basketball team.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
Tmac look good on offense to me also
just he wouldt get a freakin call
"A ‘No’ uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a ‘Yes’ merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
Mohandas Gandhi
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Jesus
"We were real solid on both ends of the floor today and had positive energy coming from the bench tonight."
Jeff Teague
T-Mac looks like a guy
Who is too good to be making the league minimum. Then again, so did a few other guys on the bench.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
I was mostly shocked with Vlads defense
"A ‘No’ uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a ‘Yes’ merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
Mohandas Gandhi
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Jesus
"We were real solid on both ends of the floor today and had positive energy coming from the bench tonight."
Jeff Teague
Zaza shared some of his Eastern European mojo
Mind-melded or something. He was aggressive on offense, too.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
whatever it was, it helped
"A ‘No’ uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a ‘Yes’ merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
Mohandas Gandhi
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Jesus
"We were real solid on both ends of the floor today and had positive energy coming from the bench tonight."
Jeff Teague
55 points from the bench
Didn’t see that last year. Means our bench outscored our starters.
The game opened with a marvin 3
thats how great tonight was
"A ‘No’ uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a ‘Yes’ merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
Mohandas Gandhi
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Jesus
"We were real solid on both ends of the floor today and had positive energy coming from the bench tonight."
Jeff Teague
teague starting for us is a HUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGEEEE difference
"A ‘No’ uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a ‘Yes’ merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
Mohandas Gandhi
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Jesus
"We were real solid on both ends of the floor today and had positive energy coming from the bench tonight."
Jeff Teague
Oh, I forgot
TRADE HORFORD FOR RONNY TURIAF.
Since I doubt that guy is going to chime in at all, tonight.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
also do you remember BLOW IT UP
"A ‘No’ uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a ‘Yes’ merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
Mohandas Gandhi
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Jesus
"We were real solid on both ends of the floor today and had positive energy coming from the bench tonight."
Jeff Teague
His boy Leuer had 14 & 8 with 2 blocks and 2 steals in 20 minutes off the bench tonight.
Maybe not so bad with the scouting.
Will making it back to the Eastern Conference Semis give Larry Drew another year at the helm?
Have we quietly put together a very deep team?
I loved what I saw from Pargo, he seemed to really know his role and was a great facilitator. Looking forward to see what he can bring to the table the rest of the year. His shoot looks very smooth as well.
RadVlad was very rad indeed. I was presently surprised by his movement with and without the ball, it seems he can be more than just a spot up shooter. Overall extremely pleased with his performance and can’t wait to see what he has in store as the season progresses.
And, was much, much more aggresive and in to it than he was in the two preseason games. If he can continue to provide this sort of play, I think we’d all be happy with that.
Great great win, sure is good to be a hawks fan right about now, gotta love what you saw tonight.
by GoBravos321(J-Money) on Dec 27, 2011 10:21 PM EST reply actions
I have to keep telling myself kirk wasnt playing
"A ‘No’ uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a ‘Yes’ merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
Mohandas Gandhi
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Jesus
"We were real solid on both ends of the floor today and had positive energy coming from the bench tonight."
Jeff Teague
I keep thinking about that too...
But who do you run with Hinrich when he gets back… Pargo or Green?
by jdewayneatl on Dec 27, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Neither
Go big. Hinrich, McGrady, Radmanovic, Ivan, Zaza
That said, Pargo, if only because it keeps Willie Green off the court. Though I guess Green is tolerable in stretches.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
I can definitely believe in that!
But just looking at the two preseason games and this game, I don’t think Drew wants to play McGrady at the 2 much. I believe that Drew may not want TMac chasing 2 guards around very much.
by jdewayneatl on Dec 27, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Makes sense
But McGrady didn’t look slow at all tonight. We’ll see how his legs hold up on the back-end of this thing tomorrow.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
Makes sense to me
thats what I was thinking
"A ‘No’ uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a ‘Yes’ merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
Mohandas Gandhi
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Jesus
"We were real solid on both ends of the floor today and had positive energy coming from the bench tonight."
Jeff Teague
Jamal is being the bad Jamal against Sacramento
I know where the bodies are buried.....I buried some of them myself. - David Stern
by a hooter's baby on Dec 27, 2011 10:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
yeah 1-7 last i checked
"A ‘No’ uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a ‘Yes’ merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
Mohandas Gandhi
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Jesus
"We were real solid on both ends of the floor today and had positive energy coming from the bench tonight."
Jeff Teague
Yep.... I'd rather have the BenchSquad instead of JCrossover
by jdewayneatl on Dec 27, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Chicago has the Bench Mob
We have the BenchSquad™
I know where the bodies are buried.....I buried some of them myself. - David Stern
by a hooter's baby on Dec 27, 2011 10:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Is BenchSquad anything like Police Squad! ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4hZmKj-CiM
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
Yup
"A ‘No’ uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a ‘Yes’ merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
Mohandas Gandhi
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Jesus
"We were real solid on both ends of the floor today and had positive energy coming from the bench tonight."
Jeff Teague
Miami's big 3
Lebron, Wade, Norris Cole
I know where the bodies are buried.....I buried some of them myself. - David Stern
by a hooter's baby on Dec 27, 2011 11:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I think it's a problem when this guy takes the most shots on the team
Considering just who he has around him…
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
Lebron
is allergic to shots in the 4th quarter
I know where the bodies are buried.....I buried some of them myself. - David Stern
by a hooter's baby on Dec 27, 2011 11:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i love how everyone is in love with a guy that basically got a bs charging foul called for him
"A ‘No’ uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a ‘Yes’ merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
Mohandas Gandhi
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Jesus
"We were real solid on both ends of the floor today and had positive energy coming from the bench tonight."
Jeff Teague
Hope the Hawks blow out the Wizards tomorrow like this
At 9, I need to watch Mississippi State/Baylor. Be best if my attention wasn’t divided. Though I suppose I could go screen in screen….
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
Very interesting start to the season
hope the bench can be even half this effective for the majority of the season. If so, the Hawks could be a much, much better team than anyone realized.
The key is in balancing the Duck Butt, by adding a drag coefficent with the Fro.
This is why Marvin has never shown body control in previous seasons. It’s so obvious!
+1
"A ‘No’ uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a ‘Yes’ merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
Mohandas Gandhi
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give."
Winston Churchill
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Jesus
"We were real solid on both ends of the floor today and had positive energy coming from the bench tonight."
Jeff Teague
So now he can run upright due to the counter balance effect has?
I say it’s time he grew the ’fro to Darnell Hillman proportions then.
Will making it back to the Eastern Conference Semis give Larry Drew another year at the helm?
Sorry, 'his hair' has.
Will making it back to the Eastern Conference Semis give Larry Drew another year at the helm?
Yes.
Essentially, the drag of wind resistance on “The Fro”, pulls backwards on Marv’s head, in opposition to his leg’s acceleration. The upper body follows the head to enough of a degree to straighten his posture, thereby offsetting “The Duck Butt”.
It’s applied aerodynamics. Marvin as a learning aid.
by RamblininAlb on Dec 28, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions
Great game last night
Marvin impressed me big time.he came to play this season.the starters seemed balanced for the most part.was really going crazy on vlad rad.he owned it man!!!zaza picked up where he left off.josh was great though I did cringe a bit when he made a jumper which caused a.ripple effect.but great game guys.try to rest and come strong tomorrow.go hawks!
IF YOU CANT ACCEPT LOSING, YOU CANT WIN.
by Hawksgirl on Dec 28, 2011 2:44 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Great game by the Hawks. Sidenote, ESPN's Stein states the Hawks were in serious talks for D12.
JJ and Smoove for D12 were the main pieces. What you guys think about that potential move?
by xavip on Dec 28, 2011 3:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions
That would be a ridiculous steal if the Hawks pulled it off, but I thought Howard had stated he wouldn’t sign an extension with Atlanta?
Teague
Macgrady (?)
Williams
Horford
Howard
Is that a team that would beat Miami, Chicago, and Oklahoma City to win a title? I’m doubtful. It would be worth a try to get out from under Joe’s contract though.
A little worried about Teague's ankle.
Would like to see him fully healthy against Wall. Disappointed in Josh’s long jumpers. He won’t get that under control unless there is a strong presence at point like a CP3. Everybody looked good otherwise.

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