Top 8 Best Free Agents Left Available
Look, we can get testy about Josh Childress' latest Atlanta Hawk indicting comments, or rail about the long term negatives of a Jamal Crawford extension, but we want to be positive today.
Therefore, despite the naysayers who might think that such an exercise is moot, we look at who the best of the remaining free agents are who might be signed by our beloved Hawks.
So here are the best of the rest, as listed in our Peachtree Hoops Free Agent Scoreboard:
Shaquille O'Neal:
Much has been written about Shaq, who is likely suffering from attention withdrawal as he is still unemployed and with little interest at the salary and commitment level he reportedly desires.
The Hawks have reported to have lost interest in Shaq, likely not because of fit or ability, but due to those desired thresholds of salary and multi-year deal.
Still, Shaq was productive last year, especially on the glass and in the offensive post, two areas the Hawks could use help in....off the bench. His overall production has been accurately equated, overall, to current Hawks backup big man Zaza Pachulia, but offering a different skill set could help the team, even in its limited scope and playing time.
The Hawks are wise not to commit too much to Shaq, but he is potentially the free agent remaining on the board who could move the needle even a little in the win column with the skills he still provides.
Rasho is the anti-Shaq in that he rebounds less than average on the defensive end, doesn't have a good block rate (though significantly better than recently signed Brad Miller), and is more comfortable knocking down shots than getting to the line inside.
Nesterovic's bump in PER on our big board comes from the limited usage from last season, and his career 13.3 is more in line in what to expect from the 34 year old center.
Thomas' value has been linked to how successful he is knocking down jump shots, which is what comprises 67% of his total shot selection.
His availability is probably limited, in that he and the Mavericks want each other, and the uber-niche roles that the Mavs employ do likely fit a player like Thomas best.
Amundson is 6'9, entering his Age 28 season, and has improved since getting a regular role with the Suns. He is a surprising rebounder and was expected to head back to Phoenix, but apparently is letting folks know he now does not expect to be back. Now he believes that Toronto, Golden State, and Charlotte are more likely destination for his services.
Bynum is valued by the Pistons, who have been monitoring the backup shooting guard market and found it to be around 4M per season. There have been some outliers, and that has slowed down the process of re-signing.
I thought Josh Boone was better than he actually statistically appears. His length gives a shot-blocker vibe, but the numbers aren't there. His rebounding is solid, however, and could provide good value as a 26 year old backup big.
Golden State didn't qualify the 6'8 Tolliver, but had as recently as this past week been discussing going back to Oakland. The Warriors, according the Fanhouse report, didn't qualify him due to roster inflexibility, a problem solved by the trade for David Lee and the Anthony Morrow sign and trade with New Jersey which brought back zero players, now giving the Warriors room to bring back Tolliver. Statistically, he is an average backup big man, who has youth (Age 25 season upcoming) on his side.
Surprisingly, Jason Williams had a very efficient passing season last year as the primary backup for the Magic. He even turned in a top 10 finish in Assist to Turnovers for all point guards with more than 20MPG. It wasn't enough, however, to stop Orlando from committing to Chris Duhon in case Jameer Nelson gets hurt again. He may still land in Orlando as their third guard, which would be a nice pick-up for them, as if they need it.
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No SFs on that list...
we need a SF, and another big.
And I hope the delay in announcing Collins is because he is plan B if Shaq never comes down on asking price. I don’t think anyone else is desperate to sign our beloved Old Man, so why not wait another month to see if we can get a better old, way past his prime in both game and physical skills, center.
SF
THis is the most pressing need of the hawks and everyone keeps on with the shaq stuff. Leave shaq to slow some other team down. right now we need either a super solid back up or starter at SF. Josh Howard, D wilkins seems to be pretty popular amongst those that have seen his play. and I think thomas could pose as a small forward since he shoots from the corners and can keep a hand in other sall forwards faces. he could even switch on the D end with J Smooth. and Smooth can guard the small forward… surely smith is more effective at pf on d but they can switch back and frth according to the particular game and the player across from them.
Second need is a point guard. everyone wants to throw teagues in even though he wan’t greatly effective at the nba level yet. his low minutes last year kept him from learning more but he will soon be capable. I think bibby needs to come off the bench he slowed down drastically last year. in the mean time bynum is the ost explosive pg on the market and a starting caliber guard already. He likes to drive and can create open perimeter players with his quick step and crossover. If not Jason Williams seems viable as well.
This excludes trads because hawks will surely not trade to get anyone.
The Hawks' front office thinks they have a back-up SF
Because they have Mo Evans. They’ve shown no evidence of being able to diagnose the problems on the roster.
Tim Thomas would qualify there
And I will take any reason for positivity surrounding a non-signing of Jason Collins. Just sayin’
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jul 27, 2010 11:55 AM EDT reply actions
Maybe offensively he does...
since he’s pretty much pop a shot now, but defensively, I’m not sure of. I just doubt he can cover too many guys on that end of the floor at either F spot to be honest.
by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Damien Wilkins
is a solid small forward who can give marvin a battle for the starting gig for cheap! I mean he scored 41 points against marvin once upon a time! i love marvin, but hes too comfortable knowing he only has mo evans to ‘compete’ with him with the starting role. diamond in the rough, just saying.
oh
and he is mainly known for his solid defense rather than offense… sooo 41 points is nothing to scoff at (even tho it was pre-durant…. and on a crappy sonic team lol)
Wonder what his asking price would be?
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jul 27, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He's been steady around $3m the last few years...
so probably that at most, if not $2m or less considering he doesn’t seem to be in high demand and the local ties with his uncle and all.
I’d guess 2/$5m would be the most we’d need to offer, and maybe get him 2/$2-3m.
by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd agree on Wilkins...
isn’t much of a shooter, but a decent handle and passer, and good D. He’s definitely a better choice than Mario West (and I’m not saying that because of school affiliations).
by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not a fan
The numbers don’t really support that he’s a superior defender-he’s average, at best-and he’s a volume shooter who isn’t very efficient. He doesn’t share the ball very well, and doesn’t shoot very well, so he’s an offensive black hole. He’s basically Flip Murray in a slightly bigger body.
i disagree (respectfully)
no one is saying he is a superior defender by any means, but he is atleast as good as marvin, maybe better. as for high volume shooter, his career high in attempts is 20 (making 15) yes it was a great game for him and will probably never happen again but he would be a great guy to have off the bench and actually be someone marvin could matchup against in practice. im going in with the mentality that he will come in and put us over the top… but neither would anyone else ASG may or may not sign. and plus… a big flip murray is jamal crawford haha
ps it makes me sad that rick sund or ASG never read these blogs because people other than me, actually have good suggestions on what the team should do but never sees light. (i cant honestly remember reading one person wanting to go after josh powell to keep this team contending)
Chalk me up as someone that wouldn't mind seeing Wilkins in a Hawks uniform
If nothing else he would give the Hawks another guy that is long on athleticism and wouldn’t be that bad defensively. Plus he is a home town guy having played at Georgia and is Dominique’s nephew. Of a lot of the names on the board at small forward I would just as soon have him. Of course it always comes down to money.
FanHouse says he worked out for the Cavs recently
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/27/damien-wilkins-works-out-for-cavs-along-with-wafer-anderson/
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
Quotes from the above story link
Wilkins said he could see himself playing for the minimum in his classification of $1.07 million. He made $3.3 million last season.
“I could see that happening, although it doesn’t have to happen,‘’ Wilkins said of playing for the minimum. "I told my agent (Mark Bartelstein) I want the opportunity to play on a winning team and contribute more than dollars. If I’m able to contribute, the money will take care of itself (in the future).’’
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
he has a good attitude about the business and game
I likey
IF YOU CANT ACCEPT LOSING, YOU CANT WIN.
by Hawksgirl on Jul 27, 2010 9:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agree on Positivity but Josh Howard may be best left
Josh Howard is arguably the best free agent left on the market and no one is mentioning him. Furthermore, I would not mind having McGrady as a backup SF either. Josh Howard could definitely help the team and if healthy he could allow us to move Marvin.
by formerlyknowna on Jul 27, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions
But neither are any good at perimeter D...
so I’m not sure how much help either would be. And Tmac is apparently having trouble either passing a physical or accepting a backup role, and if that’s the case (see the Clippers and Bulls), then I’d pass.
And Josh Howard, again with the suspect D, and also with him there’s the suspect tree. If he’s clean, great. If not, then he’s now 30 and his game took a decent sized step back at 29. Not opposed to adding either, but just not sure how much either really helps.
Ah yes,...
didn’t realize Howard had knee surgery this spring. That probably has the market very thin for him.
To be honest, I’d rather have Rodney Carney than him. Better D, younger, not as skilled but Carney has proven to be a solid bench player.
Tree, One thing is certain
Of the 11 guys we currently have under contract atleast 5 of them have smoked weed this summer and 3 of them have smoked today. Believe what you wish. My point is don’t add the tree just because you know he uses because you are doing yourself and injustice. We most likely added 2 tree users already this off-season, maybe recreationally, but I bet they use. I would still take Howard over Carney. There has 2 be some reason Carney bounces around like those craigslist hookers
by formerlyknowna on Jul 27, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Just saying I'm not so sure he'd be a good influence for the younger players...
and I fully agree that it is commonly used amongst the NBA players, in addition to others.
well if we can get shaq for the right price then so be it
Atleast ASG did get someone helpful in Powell but they’re not finish yet(hopefully). I really wanted Barnes but who would pass up the lakers? from whose left, I wouldn’t mind josh Howard though his “other” hobbies worry me. if we sign shaq, we wouldn’t have as many problems except for sf. Tracy mcgrady a veteran on the bench(if willing) could look good but his d ain’t all that
IF YOU CANT ACCEPT LOSING, YOU CANT WIN.
by Hawksgirl on Jul 27, 2010 1:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Also
Where is Fesenko on that list? Im reading he is getting interest from Spain. So, Utah has not locked him up and may not intend to. I would not mind offering this guy like yesterday. We are still over $3 mill under luxury threshold. Give Fesenko same minutes as you would give Shaq and he will give you same numbers. What is this management waiting on? Did they really think that $3 million bucks that they sold away the chance to pick Whiteside, Alabi, Pittman, Jordan or 2 or 3 other developmental 7 ft guys was going to get Shaq with his ego? Seriously, I hope that’s not the “veteran big man” they thought they could get with $3 million. Sund is more delusional and out of touch than I even thought.
Fesenko
He is a restricted free agent, so any offer the Hawks would likely be willing to make could be matched by Utah.
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jul 27, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not even convinced Shaq belongs on this list
At this stage in his career. At any rate, he’s absolutely the last thing we need if we’ve already added Jason Collins.
Agreed, There is nothing but the FanHouse rumor that came out before the Josh Powell report
that says we are bringing Collins back
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/18/jason-collins-expected-to-re-sign-with-atlanta/
Doesnt say when he will, but he’s “expected” too
by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Jul 28, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
And that is exactly the article that I am referring to
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jul 28, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Shaq's Asking Price is Too High
Shaq played less than 25 minutes a game in Cleveland. He expects a starter’s salary but would play the minutes of bench player. Fesenko still needs to develop but he is a much better deal at his price.
Check out my post “Has Vegas Already Crowned Miami’s Three Kings the 2011 Champions” on The Peachtree Times: http://peachtreetimes.blogspot.com/search/label/Sports
"alleged" asking price.....
As far as I know, no NAMED CREDIBLE source has said Shaq is demanding $8mil a year, 2 yr, to start and play huge minutes…. Sure, there’s lots of speculation out there….. Of course, there was a lot of speculation that LeBron to the Bulls was a done deal, and we saw what happened there
And if he is demanding to start on the Hawks….well, why should he even have to demand? It’s the Hawks and he’s Shaq. Shell of former self or not, he’s still the best center on the team (don’t even say the word “zaza” if you expect to be taken seriously)
Furthermore, even if the Hawks gave Shaq 4 yrs/40million, it wouldn’t be the worst bloated contract they signed this offseason…lol
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Jul 29, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you serious?
Al Horford is a stud at center. If Shaq comes to Atlanta, he’s backing Al. Not to mention Shaq can’t endure a full 82 game season as a starter anymore.
What is a Credible Source then?
The reports basically came from Marc Stein and ESPN. While that might not be good enough for some people, in my mind it was the most credible in this case.
Mind you it was Shaq’s camp that suggested the Marvin Williams sign and trade deal so that he could get more money and potentially lock up a starting spot in the process. That rumor didn’t come from the Hawks or the Cavs.
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
If his demands weren't so high then he would have already signed with a team.
I am sure that they have probably came down some already but not to the reported level of around 2 million a season that most are offering.
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
He has the same issue all former stars have
He not only overvalues himself, but his market. He has limited options to start with, and virtually no options if he sticks to his price tag that exceeds the MLE.
PG?
I understand the need for a SF, but isn’t anyone else worried about the PG position? Mike Bibby doesn’t exactly do much for me and Jeff Teague’s too raw. I would like to sign Jason Williams, especially if his price is low.
Let's go Mets!
I prefer Bibby or Teague to Williams...
and there’s Crawford as well capable of playing the point. WhiteChocolate is well past his prime.
I have faith in Teague
And I think Bibby is capable of at least duplicating what he did for us last year if Jeff doesn’t work out.

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