Josh Powell Signing Official, Jamal Crawford Seeks Contract Extension
by Kris Willis on Jul 26, 2010 6:13 PM EDT
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The Atlanta Hawks have sent out a press release stating that they have signed Josh Powell to a contract. Per team policy, the terms of the deal were not disclosed.
Powell is a 6'9" 240lb forward/center who is coming over from the Los Angeles Lakers where he was on two Championship teams as a reserve. He averaged 3.4 points and 2.4 rebounds over his Laker career while shooting 40% from the field. The Riverdale Ga High School product seems genuinely excited to be playing for his home town team:
"I look forward to joining a franchise I’m very familiar with," said Powell. "The Hawks have done some great things over the past few years, and I think it’s great to come back home and play here. They’ve enjoyed success in the East, and while they have room to improve and grow, the nucleus is here to make that next step.
"Obviously, I followed the Hawks quite a bit growing up, and the excitement during the Dominique (Wilkins) years was a great thing to watch. We have to continue to get better and hopefully I can bring a little bit of what I’ve learned from my days with Lakers to the team."
This move brings the Hawks roster to 11 players just two short of the league minimum of 13. Both Shaquille O'Neal and Jason Collins have been rumored targets for the Hawks.
Jamal Crawford seeks extension after the jump
In other Hawks related news ESPN.com is reporting that Sixth Man of the Year Jamal Crawford has requested a contract extension from the Hawks. The report also states that the Crawford made the request three weeks ago but the Hawks were focused on getting the Joe Johnson deal done. Talks with Crawford have not reached the serious stage at this point.
I would think that it would be unlikely that the Hawks would get in serious contract discussions with Crawford without him being willing to take a serious discount. In all likelihood the Hawks will play out the season and see what the price is to bring back Al Horford who will be a restricted free agent following the season.
Crawford had arguably his best season in the NBA winning the Sixth Man of the Year Award while averaging 18 points per game on a career best 45% shooting. Still his 10 Million dollar expiring contract will be one of the most valuable trade chips that the Hawks will have this season. With Jordan Crawford waiting in the wings the team may choose to go in a different direction with Jamal.
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Im with you
I haven’t looked at the cap numbers but I don’t see how we can really afford to bring him back
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If he demands it, he's got to go...
otherwise I wouldn’t mind having him playing for a payday around. It might bite us in the playoffs, but hell something’s gonna do that anyway. I also like the idea of him at PG if Teague can’t cut it…
Crawford
Joe
Marvin
Smoove
Horf
if the ball moves well is a pretty solid offensive crew, and could probably play a mean zone D with all that length.
Not if our last two #1s can step up to fill the void...
I’d agree that Jamal Crawford leaves a big hole, but it’d be nice if Teague and Jordan Crawford were able to fill it as PG and bench scorer.
yeah we could find another Jamal but not a JJ
I like Jamal too….but we can’t over pay him because we gotta keep Al
Ugh!!
I hate this subject. I like Jamal and I just don’t understand why everyone is okay with that.
Bet it hit the rim!
How much can we invest in 2-guards?
With Joe Johnson locked at ~$20m per year, we can’t really afford to spend much more on his backup. Plus, it seems as if there is a viable backup in Jordan Crawford.
Because everyone knew it was coming
And Jordan will hopefully do a great Jamal impression in the coming years.
I guess I need to quit with the emotional attachement to players.
I guess it’s just a business and if your name isn’t Joe Johnson, they can’t afford you and they’ll let the market dictate your lowball offer.
Bet it hit the rim!
The market isn't what dictates
Its the situation. And it would be more beneficial to the team if we trade Jamal for an asset and let Jordan fill the role of bench scorer at a much cheaper price.
Honestly,...
I can’t automatically agree with letting him go (without knowing how ready Teague and Jordan are for 20-30+ minutes per). But resigning him to an extension would be foolish considering his pistoling past, poor D, and the upcoming potential changes to the CBA (which no ones seems to know, they just think it tightens up the money).
right..if he played solid D
It would have been harder to let him go. But he’s just points..although solid points…and he can make pressure shots….but you can find that in some player every year, and for a cheap price if you don’t expect them to play defense.
Good stuff over at Hoopinion
Some Crawford stuff and some quotes from Josh Childress that I totally missed
http://www.hoopinionblog.com/2010/07/jamal-crawford-wants-to-stay-childress.html
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interesting....
Would he be the 4th best person on this team though….Marvin was bad in that 1st playoff series but remember how he came back the next year with some flashes of brilliance. I wish we knew exactly what we have in Marvin. He should have a fav move…Joe has bicep curl floater, Josh has the lefty running hook thing, Al has the bang 3x two-hander pump then dump….what’s Marvin’s move???? Even Jamal has a move the crossover stare-down- shot clock jumper or drive
Basically Chilldress would be Jamal…and I don’t think he is as good as Jamal…but he is great for PHX and I’m getting the jersey
Dont agree with 4th best
1. JJ
2. Smooth
3. Bibby
4. Al
And then you can argue whether he was more important than Marv or Zaza.
Welcome Josh Powell
I think he is an upgrade over Joe Smith as stated before. Secondly, I am tired of hearing about Josh Childress, yes I like what he brings more than Marvin, and I think we should have gotten a useful player for him but this franchise is not adapt at making those type of moves, and that’s why we all feel so good when we do something correct, like the Jamal move. Next, we are still $3.3 mill under luxury threshold and I have not heard the names Josh Howard, Fesenko, Louis Amundson once. Those are the top 3 players left not named Shaq.
Josh Howard has been an All-star before. We don’t have any guy that has ever sniffed an all-star game at SF, unless you count the time Smoove played SF.
Offer Josh Howard in a sign and trade for Mo Evans expiring contract and maybe a 2nd rd pick. Take away Mo’s $2.5 mill we are then $5.8 mill under luxury threshold and can sign Howard to a 3 year $15 million deal.
1st year 4 mill
2nd year 5 mill
3rd year 6 mill
I think that is fair for a former all-star who is the same age as Jamal and we know what Jamal added last year and we are still $1.8 mill under luxury.
If we can’t get Howard what about Fesenko. Offer him $2 mill first year salary.
1st year $2 mill
2nd year $3 mill
3rd year $4 mill
3 year $9 mill for a guy that has proved nothing other than he is big, that is fair.
Who is our energy guy? Mario, we are not bringing him back as of now. So, what about Amundson if we fail at the 1st 2. I would offer him the same deal as Fesenko.
1st year 2 mill
2nd year 3 mill
3rd year 4 mill
3 yr $9 mill for Amundson would be a steal if he could do what he did in Phoenix.
3 options that can be explored and accomplished without going over luxury tax and making us better
I like Powell better than Collins...
it’s a start, and like Zaza, good for deep post depth. Still need a backup C and a backup SF, and it’d be nice to add a couple young kids that can get D League to build for the future.
Isn't Fesenko on someone's roster, or am I thinking about somebody else?
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No
He has not resigned with Jazz yet from what I know.
by formerlyknowna on Jul 26, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
You are right, he is still out there
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by Kris Willis on Jul 26, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem with Howard is he doesn't play D...
he might be a nice player to push Marvin for minutes, and allow Mo to play more SG where he’s best suited. That, and if he’s still Hooked on Chronics, might make him a less desirable option.
If we do trade The Difference
I hope we trade him to Minnesota. We can probably get whoever we want, plus picks.
Doubt that
maybe you can get whatever you like, but I couldn’t because I would want Flynn, Beasley, Brewer, or Love. Minny has 1 thing going for themselves and that is they have no big long term, even borderline bad contracts. So, why would they want Jamal and his expiring contract? Furthermore, why would they give up young talent to get it?
by formerlyknowna on Jul 26, 2010 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
Misguiding
Considering they are ranked #10 of the top 10 moves. You are correct but its not like they are at top of the league when it comes to moves, furthermore, I don’t agree with nba.com on this one considering how much is still out there
by formerlyknowna on Jul 26, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think it's important
We’re just under the teams that unarguably had a good/great offseason. And it puts into perspective that we didn’t have a BAD offseason.
GET RID OF MARVIN WILLIAMS KEEP JAMAL
I SWEAR IF WE LET JAMAL CRAWFORD GO AND KEEP
MARVIN I’LL BE SO PISSED OFF
GET RID OF MARVIN HIGH A$$ CONTRACT AND BREAK THAT BOY JAMAL OFF!
Trade Jamal now and sign Shaq with the money saved. No way should the Hawks give a bench shooter who doesn’t play defense an extension when they have an inexpensive replacement in Jordan.
If you trade Marvin there is no other Small Forward on the roster
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by Kris Willis on Jul 27, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Joe?
I’d kind of prefer him there, if we had a better all around 2 besides just the rookie and pistol O/no D in Jamal.
by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I factor Joe in as a back up at the 3 in some lineups.
That is probably the direction his career is heading in. Still I love Jamal but there are nights that his game drives me crazy. I am not ready to move Joe to SF so that Jamal can start.
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They were doing that pretty much all of last season
Only thing is that Marvin started but didn’t get starter minutes most nights
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
pistol o/ no d jamal crawford
man only person plays d on the hawks team is josh smith lmao
leave jamal alone
Exactly the problem
even Smith isn’t that good on the ball. There is more to defense than blocking shots at the rim.
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Smooth has gotten better
He showed that he can guard his man. He still gambles a little too much, though.
Jamal has value
he would be a starter on a bad team. I’m not tied to Crawford..if we could get something good for him and make us better heck yeah
which is kind of why we need someone who does...
and if that means moving Jamal to get it so be it Leo.
oh ok lets keep marvin (under achiver ) high contract
because if we get rid of him there no one to play the 3
como son!
Just to be clear
I am not afraid to move Marvin in a second. What you have in him though is a reasonable contract for the next few years for a guy that is young. Crawford had a career year last year and we don’t know if he can replicate those shooting numbers again. I like Crawford a lot but we have Joe entrenched at SG. Jamal’s value will never be any higher than it is right now and that is why you are going to hear his name in trade rumors.
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Add to that
Marvin is probably the best on the ball defender the Hawks have IMO.
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right on the money man!!
It’s not that I don’t like Jamal its just that his value is up right now. A team will trade for him and make him a starter. Marvin is our Lebron stopper (as best he can) and he does a decent job at it. SOLID DEFENDER….but if by the 1/2 mark if this team isn’t looking strong…Marvin or Josh will be moved….and its’ going to come down to who can play SF. Josh will be moved to SF, or if we keep Marvin we will trade Josh for a starting SF and move Marvin to the bench.
Nah
I’d say JJ and Al are better (at their position).
Marv’s D is a little over valued because no one cares what he does offensively and he’s all we got against bigger wings.
why am I hearing that jamal got signed to a max deal?
Is that even possible? please tell me this is just a rumor
IF YOU CANT ACCEPT LOSING, YOU CANT WIN.
by Hawksgirl on Jul 27, 2010 5:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Resign Jamal
Jamal wants to play in Atlanta. This is unusual. Why let him go? He may be a trade chip this season but what for? So his contract is off the books next year and the Hawks can overpay a free-agent who is less productive and less popular? Will his trade value as an expiring really be that high? Please give this team a chance to keep its top 6 players together for more than one year!
In the Powell video on the hawks site
there are a list of names behind him all FA big men. It looks like they were sitting in a planning room, and they had been looking at who was available. You can see names like Etan Thomas, Brezec, Koufus, Skinner, and Nesterovic…i just assume they were looking at everbody to see who would make a good fit at the right price….
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