Atlanta Hawks NBA Draft Day/Night Open Thread
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 10:42 AM EDT
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UPDATE: Bullets Forever has two stories that may impact the Hawks; a rumored agreement between the Wizards and Josh Childress and Kirk Hinrich and 17th pick to the Wizards for...nothing, a move that would free valuable cap space for the Bulls.
Why this may impact the Hawks is that the Hawks may be interested in turning Childress to the Wizards in a sign/trade to the Wizards for Hinrich, who was mentioned earlier in the offseason as a possible piece in a sign/trade with the Bulls for Joe Johnson.
Draft day is here, and the question is what will the Hawks do with the #24 pick in the 2010 NBA Draft?
We already participated in the SB Nation Mock Draft (w/no trades allowed) and ended up with Texas wingman Damion James, who is expected to go higher than that tonight (most mock drafts have him at #20 to the San Antonio Spurs).
Will the Hawks deal the pick like the Miami Heat to save cash?
If they do draft, will it be one of the big men worked out like Jarvis Varnado, Larry Sanders, or Daniel Orton?
How about a guard like Quincy Pondexter, Jordan Crawford or Terrico White? Does Georgia Tech's Gani Lawal stay in the ATL?
Last year, we watched as Dejuan Blair slid all the way into the second round after being considered a high first round pick by most mock drafts--who will be that player this year? Is Hassan Whiteside that guy?
Come on board and comment all day long about what you want the Hawks to do, what you think they'll do, and what you don't want them to do and then stay here throughout the draft night (Draft begins at 7pm EST, ESPN) as all the teams in the NBA make their selections leading up to the Hawks pick at #24 and beyond.
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If Whiteside is there then he gets my vote
Chad Ford has him falling that far in his last mock draft but I am still not sure that is going to happen.
I will be pulling for Varnado/Manny Harris in the second round.
Peachtree Hoops
Rudy Fernandez is available. I'd trade 24 for him...
PG—Crawford/Teague/Bibby
SG-Fernandez/Crawford/Mo/signee like Wes Matthews, Ronnie Brewer, or Chill?
SF-Marvin/Fernandez/Mo/signee mentioned above
PF-Smoove/Marvin/Zaza/FA?
C-Horf/Zaza./FA?
Then if you could add Varnado or another decent big in the 2nd, you’d have an ideal draft adding a shooter/wing scorer and a big that can help in the rotation
Can you make that move unless you are positive that Joe is not coming back?
Peachtree Hoops
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Why not?...
As I’ve said before, I think we need to add to the rotation two more wings and two more bigs. Fernandez and Joe can easily be the two wings; if Joe comes back, you could either start Fernandez at the 3 and allow Marvin to back up the 3 and 4, or have him back up Joe and Marvin, allowing Crawford to play more point and reducing the pressure on Bibby or Teague to produce. I’m of the opinion Mo needs to be farther down the line of wings off the bench, preferably second instead of first. Plus, you could also offer Chill’s rights for Fernandez. I’d guess the contracts would be close enough to match, and Chill would be a good addition for them either at SF next to Roy, or as their 6th man.
Crawford/Teague/Bibby
Joe/Crawford/Mo/RF
RF/Marvin/Mo
Smoove/Marvin/Zaza/FA or draft pick if it’s Chill instead of 24
Horf/Zaza/FA or draft pick
We’d still have the mid level exemption to go after a big man, that is if the ASG is willing to pay for it all.
by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 24, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Ok I see your thinking now
I don’t know a lot about Rudy other than he wasn’t happy with his playing time last season.
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He's definitely not a poor man's JC
Just looking at ORtg and DRtg alone Rudy Fernandez is 6 ponts better offensively (120) and 1 point better defensively (109) than JC (114/110). He’s also five years younger and $8 mil cheaper.
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
How high do you think the Hawks could move up if they offered one of the following packages:
- this year’s draft picks
- this year’s draft picks + Marvin
- this year’s draft picks + Crawford
I’m thinking the Hawks’ biggest need is a starting SG who can shoot from range and play some defense. Offering Joe a huge deal would not be cost effective several years down the line when his skills decline. Could the Hawks use one of those packages to move up high enough to get a SG who could step right in and start for them?
How about Chill and 24 to Indiana for #10?
or to Utah for their top 10 pick?
by Mr. Sanchez on Jun 24, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
That works for me, but with Chils being a restricted free agent, do the Hawks actually have the right to trade him atm?
I think so, although...
that would depend on if we’ve extended aqualifying offer yet.
Another possibility, Al Jefferson for Josh Smith, with probably others involved one way or the other to even things out? It’d be a change, not saying a good change, but a change. Would give the team a true go-to scorer, and an offensive threat on the blocks freeing up Horford to do damage in the high post.
It's looking like the beginning of the draft might be extremely predictable
1) Wizards: John Wall
2) 76ers: Evan Turner
3) Nets: Derrick Favors
4) Timberwolves: Wesley Johnson
5) Kings: DeMarcus Cousins.
Would that be the first time a top 5 went as predicted?...
even when it does seem predictable, something unexpected tends to happen.
If Jordan Crawfors is available at 24, which I doubt, the Hawks have to take him. We can get rid of overrated Joe Johnson and get someone who can score off the dribble. If Crawford isn’t there I say trade the pick. I don’t see how the Hawks can work a true center into the starting 5 without either trading or sitting Josh Smith or Al Horford. Go small and keep Smith and Horford in the starting lineup. Hawks starting 5:
1) Jef Teague/Mike Bibby (open competition with loser becoming 6th man)
2) Jamal Crawford
3) Hopefully Jordan Crawford/Marvin Williams
4) Josh Smith
5) Al Horford
Jordan Crawford is only 6'4"
There is no way that he can play the small forward position in the NBA. It is debatable whether or not he could defend a big shooting guard.
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
Mo Evans is 6'5" and 220 lbs
Crawford is 6’4" 195 and really doesn’t look that big. Crawford is a 2 and that is the only way to look at this.
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
Cheap
Hawks are not interested in raising the bar as the lied about doing after firing Woodson. The Hawks only want to be cheap so they will sell pick. If Whiteside falls like I have said 2,000,000 times he should be pick, but Hawks are so stupid and incompetent they will sell pick to save money and take pressure of of themselves for doing there jobs
Big Riser/Biggest Faller
Big Riser (Higher than expected): Daniel Orton—-just think he’s the type of raw project that goes too early….Also, Hassan Whiteside—-I’m not buying that teams aren’t interested. Ford still has him at #24 to us, but I think he’s gone.
Big Faller: Damion James—-long expected to go high, he slipped to us in our mock draft and he’s just the type of “he’s ok” player that gets undervalued in the draft. Dropping to us would be a “big faller” moment.
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions
It's Official...I really would like Whiteside
After looking at Kevin Pelton’s numbers and comps, the shot blocking is intoxicating to me.
Can we get Varnado in the second round, too…I won’t even care about scoring….and pull for 40-36 final scores.
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions
Agree
Give me Whiteside and Varnado for those nights when Zaza is stuck in cement, plus Whiteside will start in 3 years max
by Truthspitter on Jun 24, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Selling
Is just another step in showing that everything is about the money with the Hawks just like the Larry Drew hiring. So, that’s probably what they will do. They are definitely not raising the bar as stated when they like Woody go so they could hire a cheap labor guy
by Truthspitter on Jun 24, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
My gut instinct says.....
….Atlanta will focus on Jordan Crawford and Dominique Jones with this pick. These two guys are very gifted scorers. Jordan Crawford and Dominique Jones tied for second among the shooting guards in this draft in pace adjusted points per 40 minutes. Both averaged 23.6 points per 40 after adjusting for pace of play. They score in different ways though. Jordan Crawford is more of a jump shooter that will shoot a difficult pull up jumper over taking it strong to the hoop. Dominique Jones is more of a penetrator that finishes at the rim. Jordan shot right at 1 three point shot more than Dominique per 40 minutes on the yearm, but their percentage of three point shots compared to their field goal attempts were actually very close with 36% of Jordan’s shots being three point shots while 34% of Dominique’s were three point shots. The most drastic difference is in free throws. Dominique is #1 among all the shooting guards in this draft in free throw attempts per 40 minutes after adjusting for pace. Dominique averaged 9.5 fta/40p while Jordan averaged 5.1 fta/40p. What this shows is what I stated above. Dominique attacks the basket and will draw fouls while Jordan Crawford settles for pull up jumpers in the lane.
Both players have a true shooting percentage of 57%. Dominique Jones averages 4.0 assists/40p while Jordan Crawford averages 3.3 assists/40p. They have an almost identical assist to turnover ratio.
Jones is a better rebounder by a solid margin and also steals almost a half steal more per 40 minutes. Jones is also the better shot blocker between the two.
Overall, Dominique Jones’s PER is 26.3 while Jordan Crawford’s PER is 24.8. They rank 4th and 7th respectively in that category.
I think Dominique will have more of a defensive impact, and the difference between them offensively is whether you want a guy who will finish at the rim or a guy who is more efficient as a jump shooter.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Prob Correct
Being that it makes no sense and that’s usually what the Hawks do. I will stop posting here if they pick one of those garbage guys that you list, but I will drop in this time next year when they are set to make there lottery pick
Good.
Because according to you, it will be better to draft a center who will not get any time with Al and Zaza ahead of him than get a guard who can help this team’s porous perimeter defense.
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None of those guys
Are defensive guys. How can an undersized guy that will get shot over and abused all night in the post just like Jamal be a defensive guy.
I heard we just traded for a C anyway so they are obviously looking for one smart guy
by Truthspitter on Jun 24, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
But
of course those rumors are a lie because you have to sign Childress before u can trade him
by Truthspitter on Jun 24, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont
He is a undersized SG, who does not play defense. I don’t even like Jamal as a starter
by Truthspitter on Jun 24, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Why can't
We just get in on some of this trade talk
Like: Marvin, Teague and Jamal
for
Granger and a bad contract
Or
Jamal
for
Biedrens and Randolph
Or
Jamal
for
Monta Ellis
I really don’t like any of these combo guards in the draft, go big or trade out, but dont do it just to save a couple of bucks
Don't see it
Jamal is a slightly oler, but more efficient, Monta ellis
Granger aint being traded – itd be sweet though
Randolph wouldnt really have a spot and i honestly dont know much about biedrens
I would point out that Iggy is for sale but his contract is shit
Biedrins
Has average double doubles twice in his career and he is 7ft with athletic ability. Randolph would be like our version of Lamar Odom so he does have a spot as a 3 or 4 of the bench. Granger may or may not be available
by Truthspitter on Jun 24, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Just posted an update...
…that ties two interesting pieces from Bullets Forever to the Hawks, potentially.
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 8:11 PM EDT reply actions
Washington has a lot of guards!!!!
The Kings have suddenly become a playoff team
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
award
for 1st dumb pick goes to Golden State Udoh is very overrated
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keep the Afro!!!!
by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Jun 24, 2010 8:21 PM EDT reply actions
Im hearing
the Hawks would do the sign and trade for the young 7 ft guy from the Wiz not Hinrich and I hope that’s correct
McGee would be AWESOME to trade for....
I’d love that addition. Him, Randy Foye, perhaps Al Thornton as a scorer off the bench to compete with Marvin. I’d only want Hinrich if Joe was going elsewhere. Maybe for the rights to Seraphin or Booker?
Has there ever been a more predictable top 8?
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
I thought Utah would take Babbit.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
obviously
I thought he would slip down but the jazz are known for those picks
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
Dumb Pick
- goes to Utah, Gordon Haywood overrated
Indiana probably takes Babbit, leaving Ed Davis for New Orleans
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Hawks Insider:
There have been no rumors of doing anything but using the picks at this point… but that could always change as the night progresses
That's a surprise pick
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Someone unexpected is going to fall to Atlanta.
My money is on Damion James from Texas.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Wouldn't that be something, KB?
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
WAIT is this saying we are trying to get Kirk?
please say I read this wrong
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
Thank you maxxj3
I was starting to grab the knife to cut my wrists
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
ESPN's coverage is terrible!
I miss the days when we got great analysis on TNT from Hubie Brown and Rick Majerus.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Doubt Hubie would agree to be part of this.
He doesn’t strike me as the type that would go along with ESPN’s thugging of the draft.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Probably right
I would love to hear his insights into what each team needs
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
Where is Stephen A. Smith???
I miss his cheese doodle shananigans
by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Jun 24, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Paul George gettin the hype
Yahoo made an entire article on him
by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Jun 24, 2010 8:34 PM EDT reply actions
Hmmm
Could New Orleans be taking Aldrich for OKC?
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Bucher reporting it now.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
New Orleans unloading one of those bad contracts
Mo Pete heading to OKC
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
BTW, who made Jon Barry an expert?
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
He is
Not, don’t listen to Jon Barry should be the golden basketball rule.
by Truthspitter on Jun 24, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Rudy Gay to ATL
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 8:44 PM EDT reply actions
Not
This draft is not going so smooth IMO. We could get a gift
So what does Toronto do here?
Avery Bradley? Still haven’t been able to move Calderon or Jack
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
Whiteside
Whoever takes him is going to have to hire a baby sitter for him.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Houston is smart
They will definitely take Whiteside
Hopefully a big man slips to us!
Hopefully FO will be smart enough to pick him up. Come on Whiteside!
Houston is
Too smart of a franchise to pass on Whiteside especially when you gets injured like he has been.
Remind me to never buy a Kia after that commercial.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
according to Y! Sports
Oklahoma City will send New Orleans the 21st and 26th picks in the Draft, team source says. Thunder will keep No. 1
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 8:54 PM EDT reply actions
*18
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Typical pick for them.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Babbit
Is fallen, maybe he drops to us and we send Marvin straight to the bench.
Just our Luck
Milwaukee will pick Whiteside and we will have to see him dominate us all the rest of our existence
They won't pick Whiteside.
Scott Skiles won’t stand for it.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Chad Ford says its Larry Sanders to Bucks
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
where
are u getting the Chad Ford instant info?
by Truthspitter on Jun 24, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm geting it from here
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Bucks will select VCU's Larry Sanders with the 15th pick.
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 8:58 PM EDT reply actions
WOW
you’re on a roll
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
He's just being consistent
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
Hey, we had a chance at Whiteside, TWICE...
and chose another direction both times. let’s see if he was spitting the truth when he said he’d be gone from here if that happened, or if the spitter just swallows.
Ha!
Nioce. I think you’ll be extremely pleased as you continue reading.
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
Yeah
He threw out a bunch of F-bombs at everyone, like it was all our fault that Sund didn’t draft the player he wanted.
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
Portland has a deal with Minnesota to select Luke Babbitt for Blazers with the 16th pick, league source tells Y!
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:03 PM EDT reply actions
Why does that link not work
For me? What is the site?
by Truthspitter on Jun 24, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Watching James Anderson and Damion James
Hoping one of them falls to the Hawks.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Minny
Will select Whiteside definitely because he is best available. I am 100% sure of this
Are you going to say Whiteside every pick?
until he actually gets picked?
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
Martel Webster for Luke Babbit
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Who do the Wizards want with this pick?
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Don't want Whiteside.
He isn’t worth the headaches he will bring.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
How
Do u know he is a headache he is the best big man left and only player left that could change the direction of the Hawks in a good way
by Truthspitter on Jun 24, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Wizards are horrible
But they are smart enough to take Whiteside especially if they are going to trade us McGee. Whiteside is the Wiz pick, 100% sure
Portland's Martell Webster is likely headed to Wolves for the 16th pick, sources says.
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions
Hearing this is Chicago
So they are taking Whiteside or James Anderson here 100% sure
He's going to Washington.
Washington interviewed him this week and wanted him.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
The Nets are working to move up in the draft from 27 and 31, sources said.
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:11 PM EDT reply actions
OKC
will definitely take Damion James because Durant knows him well
James Anderson and Damion James still there!!
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
I like JeVale McGee
…always gave us problems…and, of course, he’s a shot blocker, so….ummm….me likey.
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Quincy Pondexter is 3rd on my list.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
OKC takes Orton from Kentucky?
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Damn
Bledsoe? Hmm, don’t know bout that, but whatever.
Ugh..showing Bledsoe kill the Gators.
Grrrrrrrrr……
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 9:16 PM EDT reply actions
Another guy who is dropping is Avery Bradley
He would be a great perimeter defender for the Hawks.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Boston
Will take Whiteside and make him into next Garnett and you all will remember how silly you sounded dissing him
Two backup point guards called Eric seems like at least one or two too many.
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:17 PM EDT reply actions
Eric Bledsoe is headed to the Clippers in a trade
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:18 PM EDT reply actions
Webster for Babbit AND Gomes.
Minnesota still making poor decisions.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Boston
Whiteside a lock, I will become a Boston fan if they do the right thing and take Whiteside
There's no reason for us to reach at 24
Not with a lot of good players coming on down the board.
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
Celtics Whiteside
Lock, they are best franchise in basketball and show it again
My Top Five for the Hawks
1. James Anderson
2. Damion James
3. Quincy Pondexter
4. Avery Bradley
5. Jordan Crawford
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Not crazy about them.
I’d consider Varnado, but I just don’t see any that will make an impact on this team.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
There goes Bradley
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You are Lost
And if u are not fairweather and are around here next year I will remind you that you are lost when Whiteside is proven you all wrong
by Truthspitter on Jun 24, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
My top 5
Whiteside
Brackins
Damion James
Terrico White
Varnado
by Truthspitter on Jun 24, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
The Clippers will send Oklahoma City a future first-round pick for Eric Bledsoe
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:21 PM EDT reply actions
Bledsoe will be the eventual replacement for Baron
I am starting to like that team
Bledsoe
Gordon
Aminu
Griffin
Kamen
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
I like them too, but too many rookies are starting
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Spurs are too smart
This is either Whiteside or Damion James defintely
Spurs are too smart to take Whiteside.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
The Spurs will select James Anderson with the 20th pick
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:25 PM EDT reply actions
I disagree with Jay Bilas
Avery Bradley can play the two and DEFEND the two as well.
by Fan Scribe Chris on Jun 24, 2010 9:25 PM EDT reply actions
Yes yes.
What’s good Kris? What do you think about the draft so far?
by Fan Scribe Chris on Jun 24, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
This will be Anderson or James
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
james
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Hawks
Have traded there pick to the Mavs. The Hawks are officially the dumbest franchise in history. When this is confirmed I will post one last post then I am through with Hawks
OKC
will select Damion James here definitely
OKC will select Iowa State forward Craig Brackins with the 21st pick
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:29 PM EDT reply actions
Freak
Brackins my #2 guy gone. OKC does not make mistakes this guy can play
He's going to New Orleans
They will have no interior defense with Brackins and Okafor.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
ALL OF MY POSTS HAVE BEEN TRUE!!!
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:30 PM EDT reply actions
Portland
Gonna take a foreign guy because they are too stacked and just want to stash a player. Bjelica
My Top Three
1. Damion James
2. Quincy Pondexter
3. Jordan Crawford
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
One of them will be there.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Given Sund's history....
….Alabi is the elephant in the room.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
My next two....
….would be Dominique Jones and Elliot Williams.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Top 4
1. Damion James
2. Hassan Whiteside
3. Jordan Crawford
4. Quincy Pondexter
My top 3
Whiteside
Damion James
Terrico White
Varnado
We are the dumbest ever if we pass on Whiteside
Alabi, James, Whiteside, Orton
Lots of guys still on the board…Crawford, Pondexter, too.
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
Frankly, anything but an obvious reach.
Depth is an issue for our team.
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Please Sund
Whiteside please Sund, please.
What about a trade?
How about packaging our second rounder and Jeff Teague and…Marvin Williams for another late 1st rounder?
Minny
Will select Whiteside here definitely
Pritchard is getting a raw deal
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Pritchard is his last trade as GM on the last paick of the second round, trades Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge for future 2nd round picks
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on Damion James!!!
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Whiteside please heavenly father
I am done with this site if we dont get Whiteside. I will post one last time and Im out
Helps improve perimeter defense!!!
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Hawks now have a back up SF for Marvin.
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One that can defend the position, unlike Mo Evans.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Sund told the truth.
They took the best player on the board.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Another Forward
Jeez…I don’t know much about him, but right now I’m not moved. why does it seem like everybody is making moves but us?
Bet it hit the rim!
Whiteside is a project.
He’s at least 3 years away from contributing meaningful minutes, and he’s a headcase with off the court issues to boot.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Well Hawks fans.
You got yourself a Do-It-All type of player. Sure he’s a tweener but he’s a hard worker. Unfortunately, he’s not great at one thing. Let’s just hope that his energy on the court can make up for deficiencies in his game.
by Fan Scribe Chris on Jun 24, 2010 9:48 PM EDT reply actions
Damion James will go to the Nets in a trade, league source says.
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:48 PM EDT reply actions
NO!!!
It’s a rumor, ill update you
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
If you didn't know
The only reason the Nets took Favors was as a trading piece….maybe?
Nets struck a deal to get the Hawks pick at No. 24, and grab Texas forward Damion James. Hawks get Nets' picks at 27 and 31, source says.
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yea
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
We need the toughness
but we need NBA toughness…somebody that’s gonna get after it.
Bet it hit the rim!
Looks like the Hawks get 27 and 31 for James
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Nets struck a deal to get the Hawks pick at No. 24, and grab Texas forward Damion James. Hawks get Nets' picks at 27 and 31, source says.
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:51 PM EDT reply actions
maybe Jordan Craw, and a big???
IDK
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
This may allow them....
….to get the guard they want and a big.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
They'll get a center
plenty of big men still available
Trading James to NJN for two picks is good for the Hawks. Trading back with all the bigs on the board AND they are cheap talent. $$$
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 9:53 PM EDT reply actions
I totally agree.
There’s some players at the end of that Hawks bench that need to be moved on and moved out for young depth.
by Fan Scribe Chris on Jun 24, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a good move...
…they can fill two rosters slots with cheap talent, instead of guys who are just cheap.
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions
The Hornets will select Quincy Pondexter with the 26th pick, league source says.
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions
Right......................AGAIN
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Hawks are up.
Jordan Crawford baby!!!
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Honestly, I can't believe it took this long.
More importantly, Smoove’s trout sandwich agrees with me.
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
Sund is too much of a character guy.
Highly doubt he takes Whiteside.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
How many picks does OKC have?
It’s really frustrating to see how OKC can see the talent on their young team and they are trying to make moves. Whereas we had the same type talent (exception of Durant) and we’ve done nothing to make good moves(exception Jamal Crawford).
Bet it hit the rim!
Last two picks were for NO
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
The Wizards have shipped No. 30 to the Wolves with 35 for picks No. 23 and 56.
This IS CONFUSING
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 9:59 PM EDT reply actions
24 for 27 and 31 sounds like a sweet deal to me.
No?
Longest Atlanta Falcons winning-seasons streak: 2008 - current
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Absolute Good move
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by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I cannot believe the Heat are shopping Beasley
I think the kid could be special with the right coaching.
Bet it hit the rim!
Hopefully he is coming to Atlanta.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
It is now reported
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
YES!!!!
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
If the trade does go through I like filling the roster out with young players instead of filler like Jason Collins
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
Hoping for Varnado at 31.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Check out Soaring Down South.
See who the lead writer there projected for the Hawks.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
LeBrons KILLER is comming to the ATL
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
Bigs available.
Solomon Alabi, Daniel Orton, Hassan Whiteside, Jarvis Varnado.
Mini bigs – Gani Lawal.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Wow....
Why am I fan of the Hawks? They ALWAYS disappoint me.
Joe is a Beast
Al is a Beast
Smoove is a MONSTER!
by Garrison Hayes on Jun 24, 2010 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
why disappointed?
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Damion James
is a beast… Should have kept him…
Hassan Whiteside next at 31?
Joe is a Beast
Al is a Beast
Smoove is a MONSTER!
by Garrison Hayes on Jun 24, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Memphis takes maryland guard vasquez with 28.
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
Sweet Jesus.
Do you guys see the elevation on Crawford’s jumper? In all seriousness the guy can score score score. But can he bring anything else to the table?
by Fan Scribe Chris on Jun 24, 2010 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
Just speculating but if he duplicates Jamal
Then does that make Jamal expendable at the trade deadline?
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Need the depth right now.
With Joe likely gone and Jamal starting, Jordan will get immediate time as a back up.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Good point.
Doesn’t it kinda depend on what happens with JJ here soon?
by Fan Scribe Chris on Jun 24, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
can we please stop speculating the departure of Jamal
That makes me sad…really, really, sad
Bet it hit the rim!
Crawford in Atlanta.
This guy is a gifted scorer. We will have to see how he adjusts to not having the ball all the time. He’s a great shooter. He needs to become more aggressive attacking the rim.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
I can honestly see Jordan Crawford....
….being a starter down the road. Larry Drew is going to love his scoring ability.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Memphis takes maryland guard G. Vasquez with 28.
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
NO.
He’s definitely not a point guard.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
maybe Jamal PG and Jordan SG
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Down the road....
…..it might be Teague at point guard and Crawford at shooting guard.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
He can fill it up.
Averaged over 29 PPG in the NCAA tournament.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
ESPN not helping its cause here by resetting old trades from Draft's past. Stop adding to the confusion.
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
so we got the guy that dunked on Lebron
shallow victory
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
We will get Alabi, Whiteside, or Orton.
Wow. WINNERS!
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
Hoping for Varnado, but.....
….thinking it will likely be Alabi.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
any one read this yet?
from SI
After two collegiate seasons at two different schools, Crawford confirmed his draft intentions one day before the deadline when he hired Chicago-based agent Mark Bartelstein. Crawford averaged 9.7 points, 3.4 rebounds and 2.3 assists as a freshman at Indiana (2007-08) before transferring to Xavier. After he sat out 2008-09, Crawford excelled in his only season with the Musketeers. The Detroit native averaged 20.5 points, 4.7 rebounds and 2.9 assists this season, leading Xavier to a share of its fourth straight Atlantic 10 title. Crawford, who led the conference in scoring, was at his best during the NCAA tournament when he averaged 29.0 points in three games. He scored a career-high 32 in a double-overtime loss to Kansas State in the regional semifinals. Though Crawford was accustomed to scoring often on the collegiate level, he’s likely to find success in the NBA as a role-playing guard who can come off the bench and deliver a spark with his long-range shooting. He was among the Atlantic 10 leaders in 3-pointers made (79) and percentage (39.1). Crawford, though, must improve on the defensive end so he doesn’t continue to be labeled a one-dimensional player. While Crawford’s stock rose after his NCAA tournament performance, he’s unlikely to be picked before the early portion of the second round.
The future is the present. Jason Heyward has arrived.
Second to last sentence really gets me
Sound like Jamal Crawford with hops
by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Jun 24, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
now we wont get lbj
cause we drafted the guy who dunked on him
Hassan Whiteside at 31, anyone?
Joe is a Beast
Al is a Beast
Smoove is a MONSTER!
by Garrison Hayes on Jun 24, 2010 10:11 PM EDT reply actions
yes please
as long as the next pick is a center, I’m happy
The future is the present. Jason Heyward has arrived.
AKA
the next Randolph Morris
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Why orton?
They have the best center of the league and even their backup center is very good.
Orton will be a project, perhaps D-League
and there is speculation that they may trade Gortat
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Daniel Orton
Must Improve: Talking
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
The Wolves will select Marquette's Lazar Hayward with No. 30
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
If Atl don't pick a big guy, I am going to be .38 hot!
Please let the BK curse end now. The maddness has to end right now!!
Bet it hit the rim!
If they take Alabi....
…..you have to wonder if he will be able to run with the rest of the team.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Can he throw and outlet pass?
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Which one do you want, Alabi or Whiteside?
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 10:16 PM EDT reply actions
Whiteside...
" A legit 7-footer with excellent size, strength and potential … Has good agility and run/jump athleticism … Very intriguing combination of physical attributes (7-feet and 230 lbs with a 7-6 wingspan) and an explosive athlete … Imposing defensive presence due to his length and leaping ability … Already a force defensively averaging 4.4 blocks per game in just over 20 minutes per game (through his first 7 games) … An excellent rebounder, using his size and strength well on the glass at both ends … Shows an exuberance for the game and should continue to develop as he gains experience … Shows some nice things offensively with developing post skills and touch on his shot … He is still in the early stages in his offensive development, so sticking around college 2-3 years would benefit him in the long run … "
NBDraft.net
Joe is a Beast
Al is a Beast
Smoove is a MONSTER!
by Garrison Hayes on Jun 24, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
to be honest with you guys
I don’t know who’s in the draft because our previous draft picks leave me no hope for anybody to come in and immediately be helpful.
Bet it hit the rim!
Just got back from the SBN Atlanta Launch Party
Good times. So I was really stoked when I heard the Damion James pick, and now there’s a trade-I’m not entirely caught up. By the way, Ric Bucher and Doug Gottlieb for ESPN Radio are GOD-AWFUL
traded James for Jordan Crawford and the first pick of the second round
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
that is about to happen next
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Jordan Crawford and 31st pick to Hawks
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Hawks got 27 and 31 for James.
Took Jordan Crawford at 27.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
How was the Launch Party?
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweet
Open Bar duuuude! Oh, and thanks to both you and Jason for not coming. There was a bottle of Crown Royal given out for the Peachtree Hoops guys, and since neither of you were there, they gave it to me.
I ended up talking with one the servers, there KJ-if you read this later man, I told you the Hawks would take James! But then, of course, they traded him.
I had to work tonight or I would have been there.
Barely made it back for the draft
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough
Had a good time all the same, got to meet all my co-writers for SBN Atlanta, and was able to carry on a conversation that flawlessly transitioned from Deion Sanders to Ray Buchanon to Josh Smith to Andruw Jones.
Hate i couldn't make it
had daddy duty tonite>>>>:-(
by Anonymous HawksGuy on Jun 24, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I wanted to go
but you cant go anywhere when you’re 15 and live 1100 miles from Atlanta
The future is the present. Jason Heyward has arrived.
ditto
Joe is a Beast
Al is a Beast
Smoove is a MONSTER!
by Garrison Hayes on Jun 24, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Ricky Rubio
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
I'm bummed that we traded Damion James
Finally, a sign that the Hawks realized they needed to address the SF position. But no, we’ve got another two-guard. I hope this isn’t hedging our bets about Joe Johnson leaving.
...Man...
Jordan Crawford is already the perfect gimmick… “The guy that dunked on LeBron!”
Joe is a Beast
Al is a Beast
Smoove is a MONSTER!
by Garrison Hayes on Jun 24, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm SOOOOOOOOO With you dude...
VERY bummed about that… I see him as a SuperStar Small in a few years…
Joe is a Beast
Al is a Beast
Smoove is a MONSTER!
by Garrison Hayes on Jun 24, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly
I think he might be in the Rookie of the Year conversation. My top picks are Evan Turner, Wesley Johnson, John Wall, and Damion James is right in there. Not that he’ll be the best in 5 years, but he’s NBA ready.
your forgetting blake griffin
since he never played a game
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
Good point.
Still, I was very excited about Damion James. Jordan Crawford…well, he had that game against Kansas State when he hit a bunch of shots.
Rick Sund
Sports Blog Nation Atlanta is begging you: DON’T SCREW UP!
The future is the present. Jason Heyward has arrived.
WHO DID WE PICK
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
what??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
arE YOU EFFIN KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Bet it hit the rim!
Are you kidding me...
I’m done.
Joe is a Beast
Al is a Beast
Smoove is a MONSTER!
by Garrison Hayes on Jun 24, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
They are selling his rights to OKC.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Ladies and Gentlemen...
Your GM would rather gather as much money as possible for next year rather than invest in a 2nd Round player that wouldn’t help us for a couple years, at best. Typical Hawks.
what the hell do we get/
by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Jun 24, 2010 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
Sounds like Money
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
and we're selling the German Center to OKC????
I guess order is restored to the universe, we can’t pick for a damn like always. At least Crawford is a nice shooter?
Were they playing in a middle school gym?
Wow. 9 1/2 foot goal probably too.
Hahaha
I just posted the same thing on Twitter.
@ChrisQueso
by Fan Scribe Chris on Jun 24, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahahha
that’s is comedy, looked like the same gym in that movie Rebound
by Anonymous HawksGuy on Jun 24, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
damn you Rick fucking Sund
Do you have any clue about what you are doing?
The future is the present. Jason Heyward has arrived.
Pleiss looked like he had a great game at the YMCA.
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 10:32 PM EDT reply actions
ESPN also hired Jeff Van Gundy as their "expert" analyst
Sometimes you cant get them all right
by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Jun 24, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
We traded down and got nothing, so it seems.
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
Maybe money for J-Chill????
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Hawks have a big man.
There is no one the Hawks could have drafted that would start over Al Horford or move him over, and no one the Hawks could have drafted would have been as good at the center as Al and Josh are at their positions.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Basically our big man addition will be
JaVale McGee if that rumored deal goes through for Childress
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
PLEASE
Let that deal go thru! McGee will be a great center in the next couple year or two!
by Anonymous HawksGuy on Jun 24, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Flip said he doesn't listen
plus he’s goofy looking….I don’t think I want to look over at those sad sack eyes of his
Bet it hit the rim!
Basically James for Crawford
I like Crawford, but it looks like the did this to save around $500,000 on the salary.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Right
I’m so messed it up it’s like I’ve gotten drunk again. After all the work I had to do to sober up so I could drive home. Screw it, I’m having a beer.
Since that pick will allow OKC to keep Pleiss in Europe FOR FREE...
It’s probably a significant cash consideration … people should stop complaining, we have no money.
I'm holding it...
You can call next… lol
Joe is a Beast
Al is a Beast
Smoove is a MONSTER!
by Garrison Hayes on Jun 24, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Sooooo... You trade the rights of Damion freakin James
…. For Jordan Crawford and LESS THAN 500k???
Joe is a Beast
Al is a Beast
Smoove is a MONSTER!
by Garrison Hayes on Jun 24, 2010 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
Why the hell did we trade down?
We could have picked JC and told the Nets to eat a fat one.
Bet it hit the rim!
$$$$$
They got an extra pick to sell it instead of helping the team.
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
A catastrophe...
Joe is a Beast
Al is a Beast
Smoove is a MONSTER!
by Garrison Hayes on Jun 24, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they were gonna draft Crawford all along b/c J-Chill is comming back at SF. They made some money
either that or the Hawks are CHEAP BASTARDS
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 10:40 PM EDT reply actions
agreed...
Cheap Bastards…
Joe is a Beast
Al is a Beast
Smoove is a MONSTER!
by Garrison Hayes on Jun 24, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
considering the Octocluster in charge
a little of column A, a ton of column B
by GT_Thrashfan on Jun 24, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
They could have done all three
Crawford, Chillz, and a big at 31. This is a serious bummer.
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I would have just rather had James
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
yea, but that would require us not to be...... you know
CHEAP BASTARDS
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sL3KDhhUZ0
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
if we're able to get jchillz
i will forget this day!
Rumor has it J-Chills to Wizards for McGee
Joe is a Beast
Al is a Beast
Smoove is a MONSTER!
by Garrison Hayes on Jun 24, 2010 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
Hoopinion had something up earlier but not sure if it included the trade stuff
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Several Comments on AJC, not confirmed from "real" media...
Joe is a Beast
Al is a Beast
Smoove is a MONSTER!
by Garrison Hayes on Jun 24, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
we shouldnt trade damion james
he’s a legit SF
Desperate times call for desperate measures
Trade Mike bibby back to the Kings for Hassan Whiteside
The future is the present. Jason Heyward has arrived.
OMG is that who picked up Whiteside? Jeez...God help us
I cannot suffer through a wretched season again.
Bet it hit the rim!
with number 24 and 31st pick the Atlanta Hawks select
A Jamal Crawford reincarnate and a McDonald’s Happy Meal
Bet it hit the rim!
So who did Solomon Alabi piss off?
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Medical, the reporters are saying.
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I was never impressed with him, but
I didn’t realize there were medical red flags. I’m always hesitant to take a 7 footer who only averages around 6 ebounds per game.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
He is free falling
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
the next Blair??
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
no chance he holds on til 53
or whatever it is we have in the 2nd
by GT_Thrashfan on Jun 24, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Do I dare
stay up for the #53 just to have my heart broken again?
The future is the present. Jason Heyward has arrived.
I have to stay now just to try and get this taste out of my mouth
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
So let me understand this we trade our pick....
from a position that we needed, a back up sf. for yet another guard that cant play defense?
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
Crawford can defend.
He’s got the ability and was a solid defender at Xavier. His issue is that he has to focus his energy on defending. In comparison to James, Crawford is a better offensive threat, but James is the better defender.
The Hawks needed both positions. When Joe signs somewhere else, the Hawks will need someone to back up Jamal Crawford. They also need a back up small forward for Marvin Williams. Mo Evans will not cut it.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Im still praying to the basketball gods
that joe will come back
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
I hope he doesn't
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
?
Hawks are totally sunk without him, especially the way Sund is screwing this draft up.
The future is the present. Jason Heyward has arrived.
If we sign him to a max deal, we'll sink for about 3 or 4 years
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly how is that?
How has Sund screwed up this draft? He got a very good player with the pick they did use, a player who could develop into a starter down the road. Jordan Crawford is one of the top scoring guards in this draft.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
He took a player
Who will be very good, at a position we need, and traded him for another hybrid guard, where we have depth, and who isn’t as good. And he got back cash.
What depth do we have?
The Hawks needed perimeter players, period. Joe is likely leaving, and when that happens, there is no back up shooting guard on this team.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
If Joe is leaving
This move makes even less sense. It does little except save money, because if we were so convinced that Crawford was the better player, we could have simply taken him at 24 instead of acquiring the rights to sell off the #31 pick in trade. Damion James actually helps the team now and has some upside, and he plays the 3. We don’t have a SF on the roster beyond Marvin Williams.
Even if Joe leaves, we have Jamal Crawford and Mo Evans to play the 2.
Why couldnt Mo evans just exercise his contract and leave
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
three picks (Damian James, German dude, new JC)
1 that they’ve kept. 2 are gone for $$$$$$
The future is the present. Jason Heyward has arrived.
thank you
I honestly question why people think we will be better without him. jamal is better for us off the bench than starting. with him on the bench, we at all times will have a scorer on the court.
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
Honestly,
I don’t want him back on a max contract. Signing him for that long will hamstring the Hawks in 2-3 years. He’s at his peak right now, but at 30, his downhill decent could start at anytime. Let someone else pay him a max deal, because when you look at the numbers, Jamal Crawford is not a drop off from Joe Johnson. Their career numbers are almost identical.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
I don't like Jamal as the starter
In that role I think he causes more problems than he solves
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
We all now Joe is a better player, but that's TOO MUCH money. he's 29
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't want to give him the max either
but don’t underestimate how important he is to this team
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
remember last time we traded away our good players and started rebuilding?
we had 10 straight loosing seasons.
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
Different situations.
That Hawks team was an old team that didn’t have a young Al Horford and Josh Smith to build around.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
Do either of them really project to be a goto guy though?
and I like them both but neither can really create their own shot
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/
by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Trus me, I know he is the reason foe the Hawks success. But there is no point in giving him a max deal when we're not gonna contend for a title
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear that talk a lot
would you rather win 50 games or 13? Believe me I am going to take 50 every time championship or not
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by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
we're not gonna win 13 games with the 6th man of the year, an allstar PF and C, and a young, fast PG
do you wanna be stuck in the middle of the league for 6 years??
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
If my choice is middle of the pack
or rock bottom then I will take middle of the pack. I am sick of losing
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by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
allstar C and allstar PF isn't "rock bottom"
IDK about you, but I was sick of Joe Johnson iso all game, and Joe Johnson “not caring about fans”
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought we blamed the iso on woody
hopefully this new guy will have things called sets and plays
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
When there is no movement whatsoever
Someone has to take the shot
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by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
And that right there Kris
is the entire mike woodson playbook
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
ISO Joe's contract wasn't picked up
If Drew’s offense is as he says Joe won’t have to do as much.
Still let me reiterate I don’t think giving him the max is a good idea, but I would probably give him more than most
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by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
yea, the point is he won't have anything but a max deal, and someone is gonna give it to him
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Well you are probably right there
but we probably aren’t winning 50 without him next year and we are going to sink further into that middle ground that you spoke of
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by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont like the idea of a max deal
but have to suffer through us being the laughing stock of the nba again. I just cant think of it
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
why are you guys acting like we dont have anyone to build around??
we have an allstar PF and C.
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd feel better about this
If the team had enough self respect to just take the best available players in the draft. instead, they save about 500K in salary by trading the best available player for a guy who isn’t quite as good.
you're acting like damion james is an all star
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I have probably over reacted
but that is what selling a pick can do to you. Especially when there were guys available that were projected high.
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by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
AmI really?
I’m just upset that the Hawks made the exact pick that they should have, what I thought was entirely proper in the circumstances, and they turned around and trade it for a player they could have taken and cash considerations. It’s just not telling your fans that you’re committed to putting the best team on the floor when you’re doing that.
And honestly, I felt like Damion James was a great fit for this year.
Look im just mad
that we got rid of a position that we needed (Mo isnt that great at the sf) and gave it up for a position that we have a surplus in(teague, jamal, bibby, possibly joe, and now jordan crawford?).
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
In reality, 2 all star PF's and one of them is sick of playing his position
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
And the other one is
less than reliable.
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by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Im with you
atleast there is a chance for a championship if they make the playoffs
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
minus the fact that joe can defend.
we seem to be lacking at a guard position that can defend.
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
Their career defensive rating are essentially the same.
Crawford has a career 111 rating. Johnson has a career 110 rating.
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mainly because joe is forced to defend the pg position
due to the lack of defense that bibby and jamal bring
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DONT SAY THAT NAME
I have repressed that entire year out of my memory
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
Well guy....
What did we expect? It’s ASG… They don’t care about winning… Just money.
Obviously, they don’t realize that winning = more money. :|
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by Garrison Hayes on Jun 24, 2010 10:49 PM EDT reply actions
From Chad Ford
The Nets will send this pick to the Hawks, who will turn around and send him to the Thunder. OKC has been high on Pleiss for a while. He is big and long and plays very active defense. He isn’t a great offensive player yet, but he’s a good player to stash in Europe for a few years.
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
With the 53rd pick of the 2010 NBA Draft the Atlanta Hawks select
Sergiy Gladyr.
They’re probably seriously considering it.
When the hell did OKC get so much money to make moves like they're making?
Or could it be their mgmt can see dollar signs around Durant and Westbrook’s heads’?
Bet it hit the rim!
Well
having made the playoff teams and nearly knocking off the Lakers, I’m sure they can read the signs.
Well, Kevin Durant is much better than JJ ever was or will be, and they have Russel Westbook to go with him. Also guys like James Harden, Eric Maynor, and Jeff Green are really good, and someday they’ll have BJ Mullens and DJ White…they’ve got loads of talent all over the roster, and they’ve just added some decent pieces like Bledsoe and Brackins and Pondexter.
Brackins and Pondexter are going to New Orleans
OKC basically traded them for Cole Aldrich.
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nevermind
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by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
He is on a complete free fall
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by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Im forming a coup in centinnial for ASG,
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
Maybe Obama will buy the Hawks.
He will need a job in a couple of years, and he’s very gifted at spending money he doesn’t have.
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no political stuff is encouraged here
but this is funny
The future is the present. Jason Heyward has arrived.
I thought he already did... Wasn't that the Cash For Clunkers deal?
by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Jun 24, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
We need to trade ASG for $$$$
and have Bronn and Human Highlight Blog run the show
by Anonymous HawksGuy on Jun 24, 2010 11:04 PM EDT reply actions
good night folks
closing the top half of the casket door (someone help w/ the bottom half please, thanks)
by Anonymous HawksGuy on Jun 24, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions
Pape Sy at 53
per Bryant Singleton over on the other thread.
Sounds right. No money spent stashing him.
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions
I understand the plan now.
The Hawks are keeping Joe Johnson, and Joe Smith, and Josh Smith, and Jamal Crawford, and Jordan Crawford, and are trading for DeAndre Jordan.
It’s going to be a total name clusterf—- on the roster.
Add Josh Childress to the mix or Javeall Mcgee
by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Jun 24, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Steve Holman this year
“Now subbing for the Hawks it’s Jamal Crawford-no wait it’s Jordan Crawford, sorry. And somebody named Smith-I don’t care enough anymore.”
I cant wait to hear Ryan Cameron with these names
I wonder if he’ll screw them up?
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
medical problems
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously how bad is his Knee?
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by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
There were supposed to be a couple of guys to get picked like that this year
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeremy Wise was the other.
And he’s another guy who we had committed to us at MSU, but he didn’t make the grades and had to go to prep school for a year. He then went to Southern Miss for a year and dropped out.
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It's funny how many MSU failed signees and rejects have ended up in the NBA
Monta Ellis, Travis Outlaw….even Walter Sharpe got drafted.
MSU also had Tiny Gallon, but.......
……someone apparently commited a violation during his recruitment, so MSU had to back off him.
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Yep.
Also, Romero Osby has transferred to Georgia Tech.
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Latavious from Starkvegas!!
We would have had him at MSu for a couple of years had he qualified.
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Jordan Crawford 24th best player in the draft......
….according to John Hollinger’s rating system. His projected rookie PER is 11.32.
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the question I have about Crawford right now is
what happens if Joe does come back?
where does he play and when do he play?
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by Kris Willis on Jun 24, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
If Joe comes back, then I imagine Jamal Crawford will be trade bait.
http://soaringdownsouth.com/
if he doesn't
then Teague and Jo. Crawford battle for the startng spot
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
he obuislly wasn't that good since he went 50th
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Pape Sy
he’ll stay overseas and we won’t have to spend our precious $$$ on him.
by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 24, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope Atlanta takes the Millsap kid from UAB.
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Cmon Luke Harangoudy!!!
by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Jun 24, 2010 11:31 PM EDT reply actions
This will be an international guy they can stash overseas
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The Atlanta Hawks have trade the 53rd pick for cash considerations, soures say
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 11:32 PM EDT reply actions
It's funny that they were trying to justify that pick
“The Hawks are trying to catch lightning in a bottle here…”
I say we trade down for two picks, then sell them both.
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what were you expecting???
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
for cash????? :)
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no good info on this guy.
I’ve seen him listed at 6’3", and I’ve seen him listed at 6’7". It looks like he is 6’7", 225 lbs. When I looked at his numbers, his stats are comparable on a per minute basis to Rodrigue Beaubois’s stats in his final season in the French league.
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Versatility!
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there's an interview on Hawks.com
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Mickael Gelebale
I wonder how similar he is to Mickael Gelebale, who Sund drafted out of France while the GM in Seattle.
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His body looks like Pietrus
hopefully he can play good D
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean........What can we realy expect out of the 53rd pick???
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by Hudson's Soul Patch on Jun 24, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
why can't we get lucky and find that sleeper????
but he’s no sleeper..they said he wasn’t even that good in his home league
Brand-new Suns fan here.
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Slowly losing hope for the Hawks…
Joe is a Beast
Al is a Beast
Smoove is a MONSTER!
by Garrison Hayes on Jun 24, 2010 11:43 PM EDT reply actions
Another 2 in JC?
With LBJ being a “point foward”, who needs a 1 on the floor? Since he’ll have the offense run through him, why not get as many shooters on the floor as possible. Obviously this pick means LBJ is come here… 
You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'...
Jeff Schultz @AJC reported the savings
By taking Crawford at 27 instead of 24? A whopping $90,000 over the life of the contract…..god i hate cheapskate owners.
Thanks, everybody, for being here tonight
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by The Human Highlight Blog on Jun 25, 2010 12:27 AM EDT reply actions
Bottom Line
Saddly, This choice to sell had nothing to do with Rick Sund GM and he is too Professional to say a thing. the Hawks have hired a New York Head Hunter firm to find a New Owner. Dont believe the press for a moment that its a “silent partner”. ,That was just said so that the Hawk fans would continue to buy season passes. The Hawks are Losing Money ,…so much so the GM had to sell a pick. Last year the owners lost 30 mil. Their ready to sell baby. Can anyone say Arthur Blank. Shoot He’d Put a TOP team on the Floor.
by Michael Wolfert on Jun 27, 2010 3:44 PM EDT reply actions
hi
Atlanta Journal Constitution ran the article June 18th. Hawks lost 20 million in 2010 and the Thashers lost 30 million . A loss of 50 million . The Hawks made 20 million. Total negative profit of 30 million big ones …………
by Michael Wolfert on Jun 27, 2010 7:53 PM EDT reply actions
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