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Breaking down the Atlanta Hawks off season options using Hawks bench players

The Hawks have lots of options this off season. Unfortunately, most of them feel like Hawks bench players.

The Mario West

Sign Mike Woodson and Joe Johnson back. Move other pieces around (Teague in Bibby out) and make draft picks. And BAM! We are guaranteed not to suck.

After all, what is wrong with second round sweeps and fifty win seasons? Internal growth is still possible for our front court, and at some point, that will transform the offense from within.

Listen, Mario West is not that good at anything on the basketball court, but we keep him anyway. Why? Because we know what we are going to get from the guy. And yea, that may be fouling a three point shooter or getting blown by off the dribble, but at some point, that energy and familiarity is going to light a fire from within and make this Hawks team better. One thirty second stint at a time.

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The Zaza Pachulia

The main complaint about bringing Joe back is that the ceiling with the team is maxed out so crippling the organization with a (close to) max contract would be bad. Especially when historically, players of Joe's ilk have production fall off quite rapidly.

No one can deny losing Joe would mean this team would change and it is hard to guarantee, let alone assume, that the Hawks would come out better off in the short term, but the idea that pieces exists that moving forward offer a better chance for better success seems to make sense.

Unless you are a Joe Johnson hater and do not want the guy back for Mo Evans money, a large part of this argument centers around Joe making a lot of money. He will make a lot because other people want hm. Correction, he will make a lot because people have money to spend and this is the NBA. Want has nothing to do with it. That being said, if more than one team wants Joe, sign and trade becomes quite the leverage tool. And really, when you can swap Joe Johnson for Kirk Hinrich you got to do it.

Listen, no one wants to just trade away Zaza Pachulia. Not after all the memories, the love fests, the misspelled jersey, the fist pumps, the half-beards. Why get rid of a guy that driven my Hawks fandom for so long? And the answer would be that the reputation he has built up far exceeds any benefit on the court. Would my fandom take a hit? Certainly. There would be tears. There would be lack of direction, but what might happen, is years down the line, I might actually have a favorite player who can jump. And that would be a sight to see.

The Jason Collins

Al Horford and Josh Smith are both power forwards. Al Horford can play center at a high level. Al Horford is not a center. Both of these men are still getting better and could be much better simply with a better offensive scheme. They have high trade value.

The two guys everyone gets excited about when they talk Hawks future are Horford and Josh, but elite teams need a true center. I mean Jason Collins has an NBA job for  reason. Large men who can touch their toes and run are tonight commodity to find.

The Jamal Crawford

The Hawks are talented. Every last one of the starters (minus Bibby) could play better (or at least more efficiently) offensively under a different coaching scheme. Something different could happen on defense if the Hawks played toward their advantages instead of simply trying desperately to cover up their weaknesses. And Atlanta was really good this year. Get a new coach. Problem solved.

Did Jamal Crawford really do anything different this year than years past? No, not really. Maybe a few more four point plays, but overall, he had a more defined role on a winning team. Sometimes, all you need is new direction and what you used to do the exact same somehow becomes better. Especially when what you used to do was coached by Mike Woodson.

The Randolph Morris

The Hawks could spend money. I know that sounds weird considering the team had one of the lowest payrolls for a playoff team and by far the lowest per win in the Eastern conference. The team cannot go for a max guy due to the salary cap, but they do have both the bi-annual and mid-level exceptions to work with. They could trade away Jamal's expiring deal and in return take on more contract years of a very good player.

Sometimes, you see an opening and say "Lets give Randolph Morris a two year guaranteed contract to wear a suit." You just need to spend the money because you are afraid it will go away. Do mid-level signing often work out terribly? Sure, but sometimes you just need to spend the cash. It does not always work out, but million dollar bench players only work for so long. Like only in the preseason.

 

Could these options mix and match? Sure, but in the black and white world of blogging, which one are you rooting for?

Poll
Which bench player option are you hoping for this off-season?
The Mario West
35 votes
The Jason Collins
33 votes
The Jamal Crawford
289 votes
The Zaza Pachulia
70 votes
The Randloph Morris
29 votes

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I guess I like the Jamal Crawford best of those options. If isolations and bad defense are major reasons the Hawks have hit their ceiling (and they are), then one easy way to fix both issues is to get rid of the player who is one of the major offenders. Surely a solid player or draft pick could be obtained in such a trade considering the season Jamal just had or the Hawks could use the freed up cap space to sign a free agent. Of course without Joe and Jamal (and if Bibby and/or Marvin is traded and/or Mo opts out), the Hawks will have to find some new 3 point shooters. But they needed to do that anyway.

by redwards95 on May 13, 2010 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Hmm I think I misread that and it’s actually the Randolph Morris I like.

by redwards95 on May 13, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about putting Josh at C?...

He’s not as strong as Horford, but he has his abilities as well. With his length and leaping ability, he could front larger bigs in the post and be near impossible to pass over or around. It would also encourage him to stay closer to the paint. As a F, he can slide outside offensively like Reshard Lewis or Dirk Nowitski, those types can drag him outside defensively as well. Against other C’s, that’s much less likely. Perhaps that is a mental shift that can benefit both, getting Horford against players he’s more capable of beating, and forcing Josh to do work where he can do the most damage, around the lane.

by Mr. Sanchez on May 13, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Josh defending Dwight Howard… I guess that would be worth seeing one game just for laughs.

by redwards95 on May 13, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

that happened already

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on May 13, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Front him...

a lob to Howard works regardless. And beside, name me any player league wide that can take Howard 1 on 1. Maybe Gortat or Bynum, but Shaq’s too slow. Kendrick Perkins does well, but you’ve got perhaps 5 players in the entire league who aren’t too small or too slow to defend Howard. Just cause he can’t guard arguably the most unguardable player in the league isn’t a bad thing. Name me one other C like him, that could get high enough to reach lobs Smoove couldn’t if he were fronting them.

by Mr. Sanchez on May 13, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gortat?

Shaq, Yao and Sheed. That is the list. No Bynum or Gortat. Honorable mention to Perkins.

by axhfan on May 13, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shaq is too slow...

Rasheed? Seriously? And Yao is on the shelf, so who knows what he’s capable of when he comes back. I think Gortat is a solid defender, good size, and probably knows some tricks on what Howard doesn’t like going against him in practice.

by Mr. Sanchez on May 13, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im just sayin

Those are the guys who I have seen that can hang with Dwight.

Sheed? Yes, Sheed.

by axhfan on May 13, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Magic series

has clearly proved that Josh Smith cannot guard Dwight or Rashard Lewis from outside

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on May 13, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

From the outside is why I'm saying C...

and Horford can’t guard Dwight either. No one can. So I don’t see how this is a knock. Name me one other C he couldn’t guard, especially with a summer working on playing the pivot and getting stronger.

by Mr. Sanchez on May 13, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not willing to part ways with Jamal at this time

We need a big man down low for sure. I just think JC has added a whole other dimension to this team that I’m not ready to give up on.

Bet it hit the rim!

by dstdeelite on May 13, 2010 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

what the hell kinda BULL is trading away Crawford?

He’s brought A LOT to this team …damn ppl.

I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed.

-Michael Jordan, #23

by King_of_Hearts on May 13, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

So has Joe

but people are willing to part with him. Just sayin

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on May 13, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You aren’t going to get a high draft pick or a good player back from another team in exchange for Mario West or the rights to whatever foreign player the Hawks drafted in last year’s 2nd round. So the theory is that you trade something valuable and Jamal with his scoring ability and expiring contract fits the bill. It’s not that we want to trade him. It’s just that he has the potential to bring back more than Bibby or Marvin.

by redwards95 on May 14, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

How about an option combination?

The Randolph Morris and The Jamal Crawford.

The Jamal Crawford could solve a lot of things as far as team direction is concerned. We’ve all thought Billy Knight made some crazy picks in past drafts that ultimately made him scramble to get key pieces (see 2005 and 2006 draft also Mike Bibby trade) but Woodson has to have had some dealings with getting some of those picks. And because the team has been backtracking trying to find the answer, the results are what we see today. I’m not sure if any available coaches are THE answer, without a collective agreement from the organization about the potential of this team, but it sure wouldn’t hurt to see new blood teach a little more focus.

The Randolph Morris should be a given. Face it, the Hawks must spend money to stay competitive or risk losing more revenue. Which could possibly lead to the Hawks being sold. With this market the probability of it is high.

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on May 13, 2010 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

No doubt some combination of these options is what needs to be done. Except for the Mario option. I’d be open to bringing Joe back at the right price, but Woody has to go.

by redwards95 on May 13, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

That photo makes me think Mario is about to head-butt the ball.

by Bronn on May 13, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

This is not relevant to this post

but @redsarmy tweeted last night that Sekou Smith just told them Joe Johnson’s mother has breast cancer.

The then followed that with this brief post.

@cocoqt81

by Co Co on May 13, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

I had two relatives die from that. I can’t imagine what Joe’s going through.

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on May 13, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

oops...i can only imagine what Joe's going through...

being that it’s his mother

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on May 13, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

How devastating for Joe Johnson and his family

thanks for the link Co Co. i mean i felt like Joe Johnson was dealing with something but not something as serious as a love one going through a serious sickness. i was thinking Joe was dealing with an injury or something. not that an injury isn’t serious but his mom dealing with a serious illness could never be an excuse. and then with mother’s day being in May, whew. tough to deal with.

by DPhenomenal1 on May 14, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

that is heavy

I lost my mother to lung cancer, and it took me a while to get myself back. You can tell that he is very close to his mother, if you have seen the FSS specials on him. I know that while she is dealing with it that it is going to pre-occupy his mind, and affect his decision to where he will be next year

by Cmart34 on May 14, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I took the Jamal Crawford

More defined roles, one thing I would have liked to see this year was Teague running the show more when he was in with Jamal. More defined roles also could include Horford being at the 4, getting a starting 5, and moving Josh, while signing Gay this summer. To me Josh is like Shareef Abdul that blocks shots. Meaning, he is stuck between positions and well thought of now and probably should be moved. Another guy to look at like Josh is Odom, he is better as a 6th man do it all guy, I think that would be great role for Josh but somewhere else.

Finally, people are selling the Hawks way short of what they can do this summer. We have more than just mid-level and bi-annual exceptions in which to work around. If Mo, opts out, we can offer a player a contract comparable to what Josh and Danny Granger currently have which starts at about $10 mill, then goes up, every year, so we could sign a guy to something like 5yr 60 mill. Rudy Gay anyone?

by Truthspitter on May 13, 2010 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm...i like that

I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed.

-Michael Jordan, #23

by King_of_Hearts on May 13, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

the part if Mo Evans opts out and us Getting Rudy Gay

I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed.

-Michael Jordan, #23

by King_of_Hearts on May 13, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't believe Cleveland went out like some suckas

But like I said before, they’re a glorified version of the Hawks. A team that plays as a team will beat a team that plays one on one 100 percent of the time. I thought this was their big push year, but once again their true identity came around. 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 all came down to one on one plays by Lebron and no ball movement/ player movement. Should they let Lebron walk??

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on May 13, 2010 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

And I tell you Boston was not that good defensively or offensively

during the year. Why did they turn the corner everyone thought they couldn’t? Because they have accountability across the board and they play basketball right. Their mentality was the x factor in the playoffs. And that’s what serparates the champions from the wanna be’s. Lebron James can not win you a championship unless he and everyone else on the team buys into team offense and defense. 100 million dollar payroll gone to waste.

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on May 13, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still think there was something wrong with Lebron

That intensity of drives that i have seen all year was missing. The power was just not there. Independent of that, Cavs are built around LeBron, and the moves such as Shaq and Jamison were stopgaps at best. So if a cylinder or gasket is not functioning, the whole darn train comes to a stop.

With that, can we get Shaq for 5M here :)

by ATLpaul on May 14, 2010 6:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

And may be he learns a little humility out of all this

He is a great player. But all that dancing and shaking hands nonsense prior to games, that showboating, that is what i don’t feel sorry about. I felt that game we had up there, was a joke, Hawks were standing around for 5 minutes in middle of the court while they were going through all kinds of dancing gyrations. I am sure every team and team’s fans felt the same way. That was like pouring salt on a wound before the wound opened before their crowds. Very low. With this loss, should come humility for him, and the realization, that he is not to be coronated anything prior to actually winning something.

by ATLpaul on May 14, 2010 6:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's why I wanted them in RD 2 for some payback

hate to say it but maybe we should have played for matchups in the playoffs not seeding. I would have rather had the 4th seed that would give us Miami, then the Cavs…because we could beat Miami, and I felt like we could have taken the Cavs out too…..can’t stand Mo Williams….he sucks and when LBJ leaves he will be the same Mo (who?) that he was before

by Cmart34 on May 14, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I still say they’re completely different. Cleveland was competitive in the series vs Boston. They won 2 games! The Hawks were historically uncompetitive and didn’t come close to winning even a single game.

by redwards95 on May 14, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

he going to the Knicks

and he is goint to take anothe FA with him…Wade, Bosh, Amare, maybe even Joe….but with th is news about his mom I don’t know if he will want to be in NY

by Cmart34 on May 14, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Link preeze!!!

I’ll be looking for it anyways.

"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.

by Jesse28 on May 14, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cant link it from my phone, but I assure you.

It’s all over ESPN. Mike Brown got canned, too.

by Duff_Man on May 14, 2010 2:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I see

Let’s hope the Cavs pick up Woodson. That would be hilarious. I mean, he did improve the regular season win total every year…

"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.

by Jesse28 on May 14, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

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