Playoff Game Thread #2.4: Orlando Magic @ Atlanta Hawks
by hawksdawgs on May 10, 2010 5:31 PM EDT
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Atlanta Hawks 09-10 Playoff Game # 2.4
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3-0 0-3
Philips Arena
May 10th, 2010, 8:00 PM EST
TNT, Hawks Radio Network, NBA Audio League Pass
Probable starters:
Jameer Nelson
PG
Mike Bibby
Vince Carter
SG
Joe Johnson
Matt Barnes
SF
Marvin Williams
Rashard Lewis
PF
Josh Smith
Dwight Howard
C
Al Horford
Hawks Injury Report: None
Magic Injury Report: None
Blogging With the Enemy: Orlando Pinstriped Post
Predicted bane of the Hawks' existence: Anything and everything
This could be the last game for these Atlanta Hawks. Nothing has ever felt so empty and so right.
Go Hawks!
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i am all for booing poor effort
but I hope Joe does not get boo’d from the get go.
guy has done too much good for the Hawks to go out with boos.
as i said on twitter, we should be cheering him for making his leaving easy to take.
booing is the only fun left in this season thanks to the Hawks
When you are the team’s supposed best player, you’re scoring 9 ppg less than during the regular season, and you run your mouth about the fans after your most recent failure of a game, you deserve all the booing you get — as do almost all of your teammates and coaches.
It would be fun for the Hawks to retool successfully and meet Joe and his new team in the first round of the playoffs next season and beat them easily thanks to intimate knowledge of the flaws of the iso offense.
This series has been tear-worthy so far.
Hawks, you’re breakin’ my heart!
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Might as well bang this during intros:
http://www.last.fm/music/The+Smashing+Pumpkins/_/The+End+is+the+Beginning+is+the+End
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Win or lose
I don’t boo my own team. PREPARE FOR THE GREATEST COMEBACK EVER!!!!!!
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
this
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
except Mike Woodson
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Hello Everyone
I just want to say thanks to everyone for making this season more enjoyable. Living here in Sacramento, at times I do feel disconnected from the team and the fanbase. This site provided me a place to not only connect with other fans, but also assurance that whenever I suffer the hardships of this team throughout this season, that well…… at least I can suffer with others.
Althought I don’t have the high basketball I.Q. to memorize how the contract situations work, free agency, etc but I am still learning more about this team each time I come down here and read your guy’s opinions, rants, and jokes. I would like to thank every single one of you.
I know emotions are high at this point, but whatever transpires today and in the future, just remember today might be the last day we can watch this lovable, yet equally hateable bunch of {expletives}. But remember, they’re our bunch of {expletives}.
So please, at least join me this one time, possibly last time in saying:
LETS!!!!! GO!!!!!! HAWKS!!!!!
by da fatchick thrilla on May 10, 2010 6:18 PM EDT reply actions
Let's be positive tonight
…for as long as our Hawks allow us to be. I’m realistic, but I’d like to see our guys come out fighting like a bunch of crazed dogs tonight, and get this W tonight.
LETS GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 6:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I will be out tonight, not in white though, cheering
for our team. 0-3 or 3-0 I’m riding with my Hawks til the end. I remember all to well the Big Dog-Antoine Walker-Lon Kruger-Terry Stotts-era. And I expect to be chatting w/ everyone for Wed.’s game. And I hope 1 comment by 1 player (and by the way, I can see where JJ was coming from) will not be the deciding factor for people to come out tonight. The Spurs down 3-0 had a packed house. I just hope the it will be the same tonight w/ a different result.
I hope so....
…but you can’t use the Spurs as a reference point. SA has been a playoff team for over 10 years, and the Spurs are the only game in town. No pro football, baseball, or hockey, nor a FBS college team that is majorly supported in their area. SA takes pride in their Spurs (which is why players like to go there). Atlanta has the Falcons to follow come August, the Braves to see/ignore for the summer, and both Georgia and GA Tech playing well as of late.
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One last dance
I too can see how JJ could utter those now infamous words. My panties weren’t too much in a wad behind the comments because I know that he was angry and we tend to lash out at all costs when we’re angry. I think KG said something similar about the Bostonians a few months ago. The more I thought about the comment the more I thought that you can interpret it in more than one way. I took it to mean that regardless if 1 fan show up or 20,000 show up, they have to play basketball. I’m not saying what he said was right. I’m just saying I know I’ve said some things that I didn’t truly mean in the heat of the moment. If this is JJ’s last hurrah in Philips, I’d like to thank him for his years of hard work in helping us turn the corner on a 13 win season. Best of luck in the future if you decide to move on to greener pastures. Although every fiber of my mind tells me that we’ll lose big tonight, MY Atlanta Hawks have tought me that you can never really fully count them out. Or I’m the perfect picture of insanity. Go Hawks!!!!
Bet it hit the rim!
Not mad at Joe's statements...
but at his lack of leadership and play during this playoff run.
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I feel you
But do we really think he doesn’t want to win? How do you think he feels when he clanks another jumpshot? A missed layup? I’ve never paid any type of sports, but I’d imagine that would be taxing on the mind. Not taking up for him or anything, I’m just all out of anger.
Bet it hit the rim!
I agree
When I FIRST read his comments i was unravaled but because that was an emotional and frustrating night, I understand. but I love jj and stay or leave, this team will survive with a worthy replacement or replacements. like dsdeelite said, can’t count them out tonight. their full of surprises. go hawks!
IF YOU CANT ACCEPT LOSING, YOU CANT WIN.
by Hawksgirl on May 10, 2010 6:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Quitters Beware
It’s hard to forget quitting, almost impossible.
Good little speech
But truthfully, we are about to watch a funeral. Maybe they move the team out of Atlanta because they don’t get enough support. I’m sure the arena is half-packed with it raining and the Hawks drowning
by Truthspitter on May 10, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
This doesn't make you old
…and sometimes i hit that link before I hit the court myself to get fired up
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Plenty of good seats and free rally towels available
…and once again, Orlando is on
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Rashard Lewis is putting on a clinic in this series on why Josh Smith can’t guard perimeter players
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 8:06 PM EDT reply actions
if ya lose do it with dignity please hawks
Lets go!
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by Hawksgirl on May 10, 2010 8:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hawks just had no idea what they were doing on that last Orlando possession
Randonly everyone started moving to cover Jameer, then everyone collectively backed off, and Jameer got up an easy jumper.
Maybe sleeveless Josh will shoot better
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 8:07 PM EDT reply actions
Why is Bibby being posted up by Vince with JOe just standing there?
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Joe lost his spot on the Hawks roster this post season...
Not that he wanted it… :\
Joe is a Beast
Al is a Beast
Smoove is a MONSTER!
by Garrison Hayes on May 10, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Ima need you to change that sig bro...
Only the Al part is correct
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Goodness!
On that last possesion, at 9:21, JJ just randomly floated around on defense, and VC just went to an empty spot on the floor since JJ wasn’t paying attention to him. Such horrible defense already.
jjjoe
IF YOU CANT ACCEPT LOSING, YOU CANT WIN.
by Hawksgirl on May 10, 2010 8:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
jjjoe
IF YOU CANT ACCEPT LOSING, YOU CANT WIN.
by Hawksgirl on May 10, 2010 8:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'll attempt to break down plays as they happen tonight
Using some DVR technology. So I might be a little delayed here.
Jameer left open...easy deuce
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For once, Joe comes down hard on the double and everyone rotates correctly
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The good news there was that
The Magic had such good ball movement, they caused that 3 second violation.
Woody, personally, I would have put those two in reverse order
“Play hard for 48 minutes. And Relax.”
Wouldn't have said relax at all
They’ve done WAY too much of that this series
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Play or we'll send you to the knicks and the kings
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woody is so calm
Bibster
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by Hawksgirl on May 10, 2010 8:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
How many timeouts you gonna use Woody?
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lets go hawks
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by Hawksgirl on May 10, 2010 8:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Spaceship looking cooler right there
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Uh oh
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 8:18 PM EDT reply actions
Has Boss touched the ball yet?
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It's sad that
The man being guarded by Dwight Howard has been our most effective scorer this series.
Dwight is actually not out of the world in man-to-man defense.
He is more of a defensive “presence” in the paint.
Have they tried to go to him since?
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good to see jj drive
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by Hawksgirl on May 10, 2010 8:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
On his first touch---let him know it wasn't cool to say what he said
things are better now—-for now.
by The Human Highlight Blog on May 10, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
New FT routine...same slurping announcer
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Its amazing that the Hawks were terrible for 10 years and never got the No. 1 pick. Just our luck.
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 8:21 PM EDT reply actions
WOuldn't have wanted the pick the 13 win year...wasn't that the year Kwame Brown was picked first?
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Just as bad
All those solid picks and stars picked around us, and we get the one bust out of the top 15
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Bad decision by Orlando there
They know they can guard us straight up, so pushing the trap out t here just gives us an open man if we can pass the man. And the last thing you want to do against a team that doesn’t want to move the ball is force them to pass.
mooo
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by Hawksgirl on May 10, 2010 8:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Strangely enough
we lost no ground with Josh out…think we should leave Brick’em on the bench?
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Also...
I’m liking these NBA quote remix commercials…lol
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We've been like, huge in the negatives with him on the floor over the last two games
Heck, might be worth trying. Punish the man for lackluster effort and jump shots.
jj: sometimes you say things that you don't mean out of anger
Hmmm okay
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by Hawksgirl on May 10, 2010 8:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
speaking of drafts earlier
what if the Hawks got the number one overall. still would have gotten Josh. just an incredible frontcourt that would have been.
Does Woody do anything other than stand there with his arms crossed?
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he doesn’t adjust his demeanor either
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously
It’s a damn FIVE on THREE. He’s got Jamal open at the angle and Horf open on the right elbow, Joe is cutting baseline, and he pulls up, takes an off balance contested two point jumper.
God-awful. Such a lack of recognition. And he’s supposed to be one of the smart veterans.
Damnit mo!
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by Hawksgirl on May 10, 2010 8:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Some good ball movement...a semblance of an offensive set
Was Brick’em really the source of our problems offendsively?
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Fake Effort
No energy, no passion, fake effort
Barnes just messed up...
Never do stuff like that after the buzzer.
COMEBACK TIME!!!
Joe is a Beast
Al is a Beast
Smoove is a MONSTER!
just to get you excited about something
if/when the Hawks lose, I have a contest I am pretty excited about starting.
can you feel the excitement!?!?
We need a Miyagi....
…teach these guys about dignity, discipline and hard work
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Can hwe just hire Stan Van Gundy?
Comments about how well we’re shooting when his team is up by 11. We need that kind of intensity.
Pushing the rock
where has this been?
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aight zaza
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by Hawksgirl on May 10, 2010 8:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
and who is this Matt Devlin guy
does he work for the Magic during the regular season?
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Avery Johnson for Hawks coach? any takers????
He’ll whoop this ragtag group of youngsters into shape…
Joe is a Beast
Al is a Beast
Smoove is a MONSTER!
We're attempting to
more drives to the hoop please…make Ho-Ho work down there
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That's better than "Uno Uno"
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too many jumpers
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by Hawksgirl on May 10, 2010 8:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Of course it is...that's all we do good-ish
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Does anyone drive looking to dish outside
You got three men collapsing when the ball goes in the paint….someone pass and hit the open man!
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And Brick'em strikes again
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Yeah, as if we recognize mismatches well enough to take advantage of them
We couldn’t find Horford the other night when Jameer was matched up on him.
OMG
Does this announcer have a boner for Pietrus? That’s the second nickname we’ve already heard for him.
josh!
Lol that wS funny
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by Hawksgirl on May 10, 2010 8:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Okay, Josh Smith shooting a free throw
1) Bet it hit rim
2) Bet it swish
3) Bet it miss
Let’s hear it!
10 points now
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by Hawksgirl on May 10, 2010 8:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
FINALLY!!!!!!
We actually go to Horford in the post!
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Alfred!
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by Hawksgirl on May 10, 2010 8:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
A Marvin sighting
first time he’s been seen since hitting that shot early in the 1st
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Crawford!
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by Hawksgirl on May 10, 2010 8:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Pietrus is always open
Its like he’s running from a comb
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 8:53 PM EDT reply actions
Finally....
someone agrees with me on Clank’em…he has to earn the Smoove back
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Seriously, Josh
Why can’t your parents be from Dartmouth?
by Bronn on May 10, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
smh
Josh shooting jumpers always seem to put me in a bad mood
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by Hawksgirl on May 10, 2010 8:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Whoa
Why attack someones parents? On the other hand, Josh is only good for trade bait at this point
Here's the problem with marin at the end there
He was trying to draw the foul instead of trying to get up a shot. When he did get the shot up, of course, it was easily blocked because he wasn’t putting his body in a good position.
someone should tell him that
dare i say coach.
it is like Marvin took that one Charlotte game where he got to the line a lot and modeled his entire offensive game after that.
All right
Going to watch the Braves a little bit during half-time. Let me know if there’s anything life-altering said by the TNT panel.
Decisions
Charles Barkley or Chip Caray
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Orlando has great "in your face" shooters
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 9:27 PM EDT reply actions
well the Hawks have gone from not knowing who to close out on
to lazily closing out.
that has to be a credit to Woodson.
Well at least the cows are still falling from the rafters
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 9:30 PM EDT reply actions
Eat mor Chikin
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, they tried for a half
here comes the collaspe
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we picked the wrong spouse
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Who?
Mr. Candace Parker?
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Anthony Parker is Ms. Candace Parker
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
No..Anthony and Candace are siblings
She’s married to Shelden
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I know
Shelden is Mr. and Anthony is Ms. (not married, Misses, see?)
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Josh knew what he was doing
……………maybe not
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 9:37 PM EDT reply actions
Sometimes laziness pays off
Josh stayed down at the other end of the court to argue with the ref, and when the Hawks got a stop WITHOUT HIM, he was the only man in the back court.
The nicest thing the announcers have been able to say about Josh Smith tonight: "That time, the lingering paid off!"
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Was that a 2-3 zone Atlanta just ran?
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Maybe he thinks those count in his point total
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Wince Carter is hurt
surprise, surprise
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 9:48 PM EDT reply actions
Oops..he's out..mustve been B-Mac
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Prado
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn...Pradolicious strikes again...bout time
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Jamal's foul drawing ability on jump shots is keeping the Hawks in it
which is both impressive and sad.
I feel bad for Zaza
he tries so hard, and doesn’t always get results, but he’s definitely leaving it all out there. Compare that to some of those around him.
Real question
If Joe wanted to go to Chicago, who would we want back? Would we want Tyrus Thomas and HInrich?
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That's why I said real question
..i’d want Rose too…lol
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
No, Woody
You need offense. Offense. They’re hitting their jump shots. You don’t want to force them to make jump shots, they will kill you. Offense. Score points.
12 more minutes and I'll never have to pretend to cheer for Joe Johnson again. Hallelujah.
NOTHING EASY!!!
11 more minutes and I'll never have to watch Mike Woodson't disdain for offense ever again. Hallelujah.
NOTHING EASY!!!
Well his contract expires
so if he’s not fired…they’d have to hire him again. Which seems like insanity.
again, what offenseive set?
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Clank'em was ready around the end of game 1
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Greatest Player on this Team
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely the hardsest working one
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
but I like King of Barrio
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
King of the Barrio
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Orlando has averaged 10 made 3's a game in this series.
Atlanta has made 15 total in the 4 games.
Can we please get some shooters in the offseason?
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John Salmons?
I don’t know how much he’s looking at making but he can knock down a three. Bonner is also free but I don’t particularly like him as he is just a specialist and lacks defense.
J-J-J-J Joe JOHNSON for 3!
It's easy to knock Joe after his pitiful post season performance
But without him this team would have never won 50 games this year.
J-J-J-J Joe JOHNSON for 3!
We're also being swept by championship contenders
No one ever mistook the hawks for that.
J-J-J-J Joe JOHNSON for 3!
They're being destroyed by a team only slightly more talented
if at all.
It’s a testament to squandering talent through poor decision making, bad court awareness, and awful coaching.
An offensive philosophy would have helped
They look like a church league team on the offensive end.
J-J-J-J Joe JOHNSON for 3!
It's hard to blame the defense because the 3's are gonna rain
It’s “what they (magic) do”
J-J-J-J Joe JOHNSON for 3!
You will get your wish
A new coach will be brought in, there’s no way Woody can be brought back after this. Maybe the new coach will bring an offensive philosophy, a defense that doesn’t require constant switching, and a foot to stick up j-smoove’s ass when he’s not getting back on D.
J-J-J-J Joe JOHNSON for 3!
not to rub anything in here
but to say that the magic are only slightly more talented than the hawks is selling them way short.
I'm not willing to concede that there's more than a small difference in pure talent
One team just knows how to play on both ends of the floor, to move the ball, and to keep their best defensive players in the positions where they’re most valuable.
Another team is constantly putting themselves in bad positions on both ends of the court and failing to take advantage of what mismatches that they have.
Magic might be a much better team, but the talent levels doesn’t account for the disparity. The Hawks usually get by on just pure talent without any scheme or skill, but against teams like the Magic, that actually have plenty of talent in their own right, along with good coaching, they’re helpless.
Ignoranse is bliss
You don not have a center. you cannot drive the lane against a good center, you cannot put 8 guys on the floor that can shoot 37% of their threes. You cannot match up.
But you do need a new coach.
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I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
The only way to stop LeBron is Smith and Wesson, but even that's a double team.
by NC Magic Fan on May 10, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Withthe maxi pads
you could swim and play tennis! I am buying some for my nephew!
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."; Carlos Boozer
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
The only way to stop LeBron is Smith and Wesson, but even that's a double team.
by NC Magic Fan on May 10, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Some will say this is shades of 1999
But again, I say, that may have been a sweep, but they lose by 6 points, 7 points, 12 points, and 13 points. Not 43, 12, 30, and 20ish.
That team never quit, and always left it out on the floor, even if they weren’t the most talented offensive club in the world. This team just quits at the first sign of adversity.
Horf never quit
sadly..he’s one of the few
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Zaza doesn't quit
I also think Marvin isn’t completely delusional either, but he’s been without an offensive role on this team for years.
Turn out the lights, the party's over
they say all good things come to an end….but there’s nothing good that ever began in this series.
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So...
Joe played like a little witch this whole series…good riddance
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
fine and I agree he should go
but takes nothing away from what he did for the other years he was here.
Nothing against him helping to get to this point, but when the chips were down, he went Vince Carter on us
…and I dang sure don’t mean the guy we’ve seen this series
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
True. But he sulked. And he pouted. And he never inspired his teammates. And he never showed one ounce of leadership. Or testicular fortitude.
NOTHING EASY!!!
Nope. Which is why I feel very bad for the fans of whatever team overpays him for the next 6 years.
NOTHING EASY!!!
You cannot overlook what he's done for this team.
You sound bitter. I’m not. It is what it is.
Bet it hit the rim!
You can't go back in change what has already happened
Billy Knight assembled a team that increased in wins 5 years running. Did he make some mistakes? Hell yeah. Did some of it work out? Yes
Bet it hit the rim!
Picks are like the lottery numbers
You may or may not pick a great one…I.e Bowie
Bet it hit the rim!
not sure why ppl dont get this
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Ode to JJ
OH Joe OH Joe
Im gonna miss your tippy toe performance in the pregame intros
Im gonna miss ur waves
Im gonna miss Ryan Cameron saying JJJJJoe Johnson
Im gonna miss those in yo face jumpers (no in this post season though)
We’ll always have that Leon Powe incident
OH Joe OH Joe
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
Oh Joseph boy
the pipes, the pipes are calling….
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Even the PA announcer has thrown in the towel
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Ho-Ho ate it
…along with everything else that came in the paint
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JJ doesnt deserve some of the criticism
Woody on the other hand…………
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
Yes he does deserve every bit of criticism he should get.
Woody was a lost cause to everyone from the get go. He’s gone anyway.
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Josh
I thought he did a pretty good job at keeping quiet and not bitching at the refs, with the exception of the one call where Dwight obviously goal tended.
It’s impossible to beat a team when everyone is afraid to get anywhere near the paint, and when someone by chance does get to the paint, they don’t know what to do with the ball
I think Josh Smith might be the only player on this team who understands double teams and how to pass out of them
LMAO
You really believe that statement? Really?
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
which one?
Yes, I believe Josh Smith is the only player on this team who can pass out of a double team, or pass at all for that matter
And you would be wrong on both.
Al is a better passer out of the post, and and probably the best passer on the team right now.
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Al
I can’t remember the last time I saw Al pass the ball at all once he got a post entry pass. He’s like a black hole out there
Did they even look to give it to him. First 3 or 4 times he touched it, he scored
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Horford
He did hit a couple shots. Josh went out and they just completely avoided the basket like it was on fire
Joe was the black hole of Hawks basketball
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
JJ
I will not argue there. He’s the only player I can think of in the league who’s game is taking jumpers with guys right in his face. And he does it to himself – he dribbles endlessly until guys come up on him
open shots
our guards couldn’t do anything to stop dribble penetration. Drive and kick, drive and kick. It was getting very old
If there is one thing Josh really doesn't get, it is how to play non-highlight defense.
He goes for blocks instead of playing smart.
And then there are the times he doesn't bother to cross the time line
because he is pissed at something from the other end.
Bitching
He’ll never make an all star team if he keeps it up. I watched Ginobli last night and thought he got fouled at least five times that were not called. He just turned and ran up the court to play D
he came when nobody wanted to come to ATL
he deserves a little bit better treatment…ok so he wasn’t who we thought he would turn into but he did exactly what he did for the suns he was a piece of a good team
Sorry, but for what he was paid
he was supposed to be the main piece of this team
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
totally agree
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
If we ran plays maybe he could get into a rhythm
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Iso-Joe plays don't count
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Over/Under?
10 days for The Announcement we’ve all been waiting for to happen
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
Over
…they’ll drag their feet
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I was wondering about that.
They’ll probably wait until the late summer. Oh God please don’t make us wait.
Bet it hit the rim!
For the record...
Bibby has two more years on his deal. He’s stuck with us. Bet you wish we could have given him a one year deal at the beginning, don’t we?
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Bibby is done.
He is too much of a liablility on a playoff team.
That's funny
Because after he was re-signed, they showe him happy has a lark talking about he was going to the gym to work out. Really?
Bet it hit the rim!
I'd deal him for a second round pick right now
The sooner Teague becomes the starter, the better. There are cheaper options for veteran PG’s out there.
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
We might be able to unload him on the Lakers, but I'd kinda like him to stick around and mentor Teague.
NOTHING EASY!!!
Would rather have the cap space
You can find a veteran PG on a one year deal that can play the backup/mentor role
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Even Nash plays more D than Bibby.
Nash is bad but Bibby is a human scarecrow out there.
understatement of the year.
We have way more talent than we did in the previous year, and we end up with the same result.
Agreed
I would like to see a change in defense, especially all the switching, maybe some non isolation offense, and a driver/creator off the dribble
I'd just like to see some semblance of an offensive gameplan that doesn't involve isolation plays
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes it is.
This team has reached it’s ceiling. ASG will not spend to get a viable coach, so you know a cheap assistant will be the new coach. Just let Joe walk, trade who you can for cap space, and retool for 2011
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I figured....
I’d tune in and watch the Hawks last game together…
-Kick Joe outta ATL….don’t even attempt to re-sign em.
-Deal Smoove aka Tender.
-Remove Marv(in)elous
-Start Teague
-Move AL to the 4.
-Go after Bosh or Amare.
- Coax Hubbie Brown to coach once more.
Outta the 7 things I mentioned…unfortunately only 2 will happen.
What does Bosh offer? He's about as soft as Bibby on defense
I don’t get the Bosh hype.
Bet it hit the rim!
Clank'em has one more year
If he can’t improve, he’s going too.
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by ronniemac03 on May 10, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Smoove
I’d really like to see him work on his game in the offseason – improve his midrange jumper and get a couple go to post moves
Please don't start with the "Get Wade, Bosh, Lebron" chant!
It’s not happening!!!! Please stop!
Bet it hit the rim!
You took the words right from my keyboard
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by a hooter's baby on May 10, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell, Knick fans are doing that
we’re not stooping that low
by da fatchick thrilla on May 10, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate everything Lebron....
Gotta hate someone in life….might as well be Kobe & Lebron.
Ain't like the hawks could pull it off anyway....
Lebron won’t take a step backwards when his current teammates are WAY better than the hawks supporting cast from a consistency stand point.
if you are talking next year stuff, a new thread is up
if you are complaining about player, stay here.
(and I know those are not necessary mutually exclusive but they should be pretty close if your argument is any good).
When is the last time a big name, top tier player who's at the top of his game changed teams in FA?
Bet it hit the rim!
Wade should....
They haven’t built anything around him, and there coach isn’t developing any talent.
Wade is at the same spot he was the year after he got the title and Shaq left.
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