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Milwaukee Bucks/Atlanta Hawks Game Review: What Happens Now?

Stop me if you've heard this one before...The Atlanta Hawks blew a big lead late in the fourth quarter, snagging defeat from the ol' jaws of victory.

What new?

Guess the team never has quite learned those lessons from all the other games this year that this exact thing happened.

Guess those "meaningless" games in the regular season that the Hawks fooled around and fell out of love with winning really don't magically disappear once the playoffs come.

Guess that reporter after Game One who dared to ask Woody about this being a defining characteristic may have hit too close to home.

Whatever you feel about this team that positive, and I feel a lot of positive things about this club, there is no denying that they are extremely capable of imploding at the worst times, showing up flat even in the most important of games, and unable to deal with adversity when it occurs on the court.

The good news for the team is that they still have the talent to win the (2) games that are left, but it has to be a (96) minute effort to get it done---the Bucks have more than proved that they will not let the Hawks slide for any sort of lapse--especially not when series victory is now within their grasp.

More good news is that the Hawks can return to the feeling of "underdog" and maybe motivate themselves (can't believe you have to write that about a 53 win team) to get past this well coached crew from Milwaukee and move on to the second round.

These Hawks have the ability to do great things in the postseason, but sadly they have shown their other side all too clear in (5) games in the first round, and are now poised to either make the great comeback or give into the darkness of defeat.

What happens now?

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Is it too early to envision a pipedream 2010/2011 lineup of Teague, Childress, Marvin, Josh and Al? Maybe they struggle to score at times, but that team would be scrappy.

by dmortone on Apr 29, 2010 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe they struggle to score ALL the time

since none of them can shoot reliably outside of 10 feet.

by rbubp on Apr 29, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing more to add

The loss is draining, all the time and effort of following this team, and now just a huge letdown. Nothing more to add until I hurt some less.

As for next game, and future, let the chips fall where they may. In closing only three words, Jeff Van Gundy

by ATLpaul on Apr 29, 2010 6:08 AM EDT reply actions  

If Joe wants more money...

He needs to get it from another team. Don’t get me wrong, JJ is my favorite player in the league but this combination of players is not going to win a NBA Championship. I don’t want to overpay for Joe and we loose Crawford in 2011 and Horford in 2012.

by Kinnis Gosha on Apr 29, 2010 6:45 AM EDT reply actions  

And those awful, useless fouls...

that JJ made are not fouls that D-Wade makes. Nor LeBron, nor Howard, nor Kobe. Those players are Max contract players. JJ is not one of them yet. He lost a lot of free agency money tonight by the way he acted.

by Kinnis Gosha on Apr 29, 2010 6:49 AM EDT reply actions  

What happens?...

the road woes continue. They announce Woody won’t return within a week. Joe tests the waters, gets a huge offer from Chicago, and we pursue younger free agents.

by Mr. Sanchez on Apr 29, 2010 7:20 AM EDT reply actions  

I' m Back

And like any good man I have to start with admittance. I admit I love the Hawks regardless. Now what happens is I move on and start thinking about a life without Joe Johnson, Woody, and either Josh or Al. That’s what happens now guys, we move on and start doing what it takes to have success, planning. Good day guys.

by Truthspitter on Apr 29, 2010 8:17 AM EDT reply actions  

What happens now is Joe and Woody get to prove they deserve the new contracts they will want in the summer. If the Hawks don’t win the next 2 games and at least 2 games in the next round, I see no reason for Rick Sund to offer those big contracts. Put up or shut up time.

by redwards95 on Apr 29, 2010 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Nothing major is needed.

What happens now is the Hawks make adjustments. Start the game with Bibby on Jennings. Any pick and roll that invovles Jennings/Thomas means the Hawks will try and trap Jennings. I want Kurt to show me he can hit 10 jump shots. Teague also should play at least 10 minutes. That would preserve JJ’s legs in the 4th. And actually Joe Smith would be my 1st big off the bench.

by xavip on Apr 29, 2010 9:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Mike Woodson has had 3 games to make adjustments

and he hasn’t. They’re like the Easter Bunny, they don’t exist on this team! Accept it.

@cocoqt81

by Co Co on Apr 29, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love jj but I swore he got that 6th foul on purpose

It was 2 min left when he had 5 fouls, woody could have subbed or something. But all I can say is play like an underdog, and win on Friday. I expect a game 7 sunday. Lets Go Hawks!

IF YOU CANT ACCEPT LOSING, YOU CANT WIN.

by Hawksgirl on Apr 29, 2010 10:15 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

the fifth foul looked like it was out of frustration

only problem was Jennings was dribbling with 2 seconds left on the clack and Joe already had four fouls. not a good time for frustration fouls.

by hawksdawgs on Apr 29, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

The sixth foul was probably frustration too

JJ pays lip service to keeping a cool head, but he did no better than anyone else when it mattered.

by Bronn on Apr 29, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its Official!

The SPORTS GODS HATE ATLANTA!!!!

Watchin' Bobby Cox Turn Falcon Red Since 1991...
(A True ATLien)

by Dirtybyrdatl4life on Apr 29, 2010 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

the Hawks need to sign Sid Bream

he was the miracle worker for Atlanta sports.

by hawksdawgs on Apr 29, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

The BRAVES need to sign Sid Bream. The Hawks could use Nique and Mookie.

by redwards95 on Apr 29, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Maybe bring back Dale Murphy and Justice as well.

"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.

by Jesse28 on Apr 29, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Normally, I can't bear to read anything about my teams following a devastating loss

But today, I’m gobbling up everything. It’s about time they got some national attention for their demons. I’m thrilled when they get praise for their accomplishments, but too often I see them getting praise for the things they do wrong (which occasionally work out). Today everything is drawing flak-the constant switching, the lack of focus, the all-Iso all-the-time offense.

I’m ready to hand this team to a new coach and see if he can’t better exploit some of the freakish athleticism before these young guys hit their downsides.

by Bronn on Apr 29, 2010 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree. I’m even rethinking the idea of trading away Marvin after last night. Maybe a new coach could get that kind of performance out of him more regularly.

by redwards95 on Apr 29, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Hawks should re-sign Joe

And consider all options moving forward without Mike Woodson….like getting some real FREE AGENTS!!! Orlando stocked up with Matt Barnes, Vince Carter, Brandon Bass, Ryan Anderson, and resigned Gortat. Those were championship moves, we made bargain moves and this is the result.

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on Apr 29, 2010 12:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree

I really don’t want to lose Joe. I would like to try and do some trades for some more consistent guys to help Joe out. I definitely wouldn’t mind losing Woodson though.

by GoJSmoove on Apr 29, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure what about Joe scoring only 13 points and fouling out on a charge at the crucial moment of game 5 in a playoff series is supposed to make me want to re-sign him. Having re-signed Smith, Bibby, Marvin, and Zaza and traded for Jamal last year, the Hawks don’t have any financial flexibility to re-sign Joe and add another significant player. The only real path to remake the roster is to do a sign-and-trade with Joe.

by redwards95 on Apr 29, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha

Sund pretty much confirmed that the ownership is not willing to pay for a full 15 man roster so I highly doubt they will do anything more than what is currently under contract (total salary wise that is). But hey, when you pay ten dollars for something you could get for one at the dollar store, well, this is what you get.

And, just so it’s clear, I’m not saying that we should blow the team up, just that this is eerily familiar to what has already happened twice to this franchise. I’m afraid we may be facing a similar fate.

"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.

by Jesse28 on Apr 29, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

What happens NOW

Is basically up to the Hawks. Everything is and always has been in their hands. The Hawks can go out fighting, go out getting their butts kicked, or win and get home court back.
Anything can happen.

by DPhenomenal1 on Apr 29, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

The lack of focus, to me, is the most egregious.

How can you not be focused at a time like that? That’s like using a wood chipper and not paying attention. When I saw Smoove jack up that 3 pointer, I knew it was over. At no time is it okay for him to do that. Meanwhile, the Bucks are sitting back drinking Moet with their feet up and enjoying the new found fan base that have come out of the wood work.

Bet it hit the rim!

by dstdeelite on Apr 29, 2010 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm gonna say this about last night and be done with this discussion until Friday

I go back to in-game, real time adjustments. Skiles went small. Did Woody take advantage of the mismatches there? Nope. Skile is not afraid to play whoever the circumstance calls for, even if it’s not his “best player”. Why we think that Woody would change anything now? This style of play has garnered his team 53 wins. I just wish the media would call him out during the interview. Just blatantly as why do you keep switching when you see the results it’s giving you? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Bet it hit the rim!

by dstdeelite on Apr 29, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually, during the presser

Someone did ask him about the switching and he sidestepped and said that they as a team did ok defensively.

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on Apr 29, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adjustments are only choice

xavip, yes they do need to make adjustments, but starting Bibby on Jennings is not the answer. Jennings is blowing by JJ who is younger and faster than Bibby. I’m thankfull for his service, but it is time for switching of the guard. Either start Crawford in backcourt with JJ and bring Bibby and Teague in with second unit or put Teague in starting lineup and have Bibby play 2 guard with Crawford at point. You put the faster man to neutralize or at least slow down the speed of Jennings. I do like the trapping of Jennings, but Kurt would just take it in the lane for dunk or easy foul. I would prefer that he scores 20 points to Jennings lighting us up. We had system in place in game one, but seems like the penetrating of Jennings is allowing him to kick out to Salmons. Give Teague more time at point and bring in big lineup of Zaza, Horford, J-Smooth, Joe, and Crawford.

by babyboy24 on Apr 29, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Zaza hasn't played too well

And after Marvin’s performance last night he’ll probably be on the floor quite a bit for game 6. Zaza has been a liability closing out on the perimeter and especially an offensive liability in the 5 games thus far. I do like the size Pachulia brings, but that means nothing if he isn’t using it to his advantage.

J-J-J-J Joe JOHNSON for 3!

by greggt2 on Apr 29, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

HOW CAN WE LOSE TO THOSE UGLY DEER ON OUR HOME COURT?!?

that’s infuriating }:(

...in dixie land i'll take my stand: rooting for Atlanta

by southman on Apr 30, 2010 8:59 AM EDT reply actions  

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