Milwaukee Bucks 91, Atlanta Hawks 87 or rock bottom
by hawksdawgs on Apr 28, 2010 11:34 PM EDT
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PrintI will keep it rather emotional here since I think it is neither the fouls nor the poor shooting or even the untimely foul out that lost the Hawks this game. The Bucks won the game. Over the last three games, they have been the far better team against a team that they are far worse than. What can you say but well done. Is the series over? No. The Hawks still can win two in row easily. The drastically disappointing thing about this whole series is that our team could win the next two games quite easily. But it certainly feels over.
And that is the sad thing. This team, this rebuilding process seems over (not done but certainly a chapter complete). We will certainly get into more anaylsis of the game. More talk about match ups and poor shots and player mentality and coaching strategy and all those things we love to debate and find witty ways to lampoon.
But tonight, you can know when I hear "fear the dear" I do not get angry or trivially upset. I get it. I really do. If I was a Bucks fan, I would be somewhere beyond happy land right now. But for every national media and opposing blogger that sees the Hawks as one more moving piece in their playoff meme, you can know for us Hawks fans it is not some intriguing way of talking about tomorrow's news cycle or unexpected match up for the next round of the playoffs; it is our heart and soul.
So for all you Hawks fans that bleed from this loss, who feel worse than angry, who actually feel sad. For all you who have railed Mike Woodson, who have lamented Joe Johnson's skills, who have called out Josh Smith's maturity or Al Horford's "go to" status, for those who have mocked Marvin's draft status or wished Jamal Crawford tried on defense, I know this is no joyous moment of redemption. I know this is no "I told you so" moment about your least favorite player or coach. This is fan rock bottom. This is hours of loyalty and miles of hope that feel worse than wasted, they feel over.
So yes, there are real coaching issues with this loss that point back to prior problems we have seen all season long. There are player performances that raise questions about team building blocks and ceiling. And there are actual blogging points to discuss as the team moves forward in a series that is far from over. But tonight? Tonight I mourn. I mourn 13 win seasons and player development. I mourn a free agent from Phoenix that took a chance on a city and a seven game series that made that city come alive. I mourn unlimited upside and player development and I mourn coaching question marks and franchise players. Because for this set of players, the unknown is over. The ceiling has been reached. And no words or box scores or analysis make that easier to take. Because it is just sad, but you can know I am sad right there with you.
Go Hawks!
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Dear god, please help our Hawks
I know we are just the city of Atlanta, considered one of the worst sports cities in this great country. I know that our Hawks screw up all the time, but please give them the strength to win just one, JUST ONE game on the road please. The Falcons are a long ways of playing and the Braves are on their way to another .500 season. So please, they are our last hope for Atlanta sports.
P.S. I don’t want to beat caught cheering for the Georgia Force; oh wait, they’re folded.
by da fatchick thrilla on Apr 28, 2010 11:41 PM EDT reply actions
These damn cleveland and magic and buck fans
coming on here after we lose and talking junk!! When they lose all bets are off and I just might get banned from there sites.
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
Lmao (crying in the inside)
I think this one hurts the most after all the years and games i’ve watched….this one just……hurts. A straight slice to the jugular. Donkey said it best, " You cut me deep Shrek (Hawks), you cut me real deep…"
by Anonymous HawksGuy on Apr 28, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
+3 for the Shrek reference.
Sums up my feelings in a very watered down way.
I kind of want to watch the Twilight movies now, for the first time ever
I feel like I need to see something even worse to burn that game out of my eyes.
Way ahead of you
My Wife begged me for the T.V. after that debacle was over. Now I’m watchin Lifetime with her.
by da fatchick thrilla on Apr 28, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Gonna be honest...we witnessed a Lifetime movie during the game.
Ended in heartbreak, tragedy, and dead cheerleaders.
Please lets Fire Mike Woodson!!!!
how do you get out scored by 15 in the 4th quarter? It comes down to coaching. He has absolutely no clue what to do. We better win on Friday or we can say BYE BYE to J-j-j-j-j-j joe johnson!
by BravesFanScout on Apr 28, 2010 11:56 PM EDT reply actions
if we make it to game 7...
who’s all down for going. I’m sure they’ll need us to cheer like there’s no tomorrow. I’m down for going. If they could only turn this hurt and sadness into anger and toughness….
by Anonymous HawksGuy on Apr 29, 2010 12:04 AM EDT reply actions
oh crowed could use an emotional boost
Even when we get going, we sound like a mob of 4th graders.
by da fatchick thrilla on Apr 29, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought the crowd sounded great tonight ( i was there). There just wasn't anything to get to excited about.
I could tell from the first 3 possessions by the Bucks that Mike Woodson had made no changes from his defensive plan and we continued to switch on defense and Horford and Josh would end up guarding Jennings and Salmons… plus it didn’t help that Jamal and Joe weren’t really hitting at the beginning of the game.
by BravesFanScout on Apr 29, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
You know I thought I was the only one who saw that
The first couple of possessions I saw the same 1 to 5 switch, that Nique was complaining about all game, and they continued to do the same thing like it’ll work some day! That is utter stubborn stupidity and it all reflects on the man of the hour.
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
Not sure I wqant us to win 6 or 7. I wanna see Woodson gone...
He was out coached by a legend like Jackson, or an established top flight coach like SVG. He got out coached by Scott freaking Skiles. Done, He is done. I don’t think our roster is maxed out, I think it’s maxed out under this coach…
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
Dead effing serious, though...
Jamal has been off. Teague is being penalized for good defense. Josh is shooting jumpers again (some his fault, others not his fault). The defense has been more than questionable. There has to come a time when someone on that bench absolutely goes insane that Woody grinds things to a halt up 10.
Duff_Girl is new to ATL sports and even she sees it. Their heads just aren’t there.
Oh and the Braves lost again?
This better all be gearing up to the Falcons becoming the 2000 Ravens!
If the Braves miss the playoffs this year
I’m going to spiral into sports depression. They need to do something for Bobby in his last year.
I never dreamed the Hawks might lose to the Bucks in the first round. I thought we were dodging a bullet by avoiding the Bobcats. Instead, it’s become a nightmare.
Yeah and the Bobcats are discussing Larry Brown's future?
You have to be kidding me.
And you’re right…I pictured 5 games MAX. The Hawks just look like they feel they are entitled to win out there. I figured three straight playoff appearances would have them in the right frame of mind. Instead, they just look like there is zero direction.
Maybe for the best.
You know I spent a lot of time blogging....
cause I love talking hawks…..We’ve talked about this team being better than last year, hoping that the hawks would start playing smart and uptempo, hoping players would get better, but everytime we see them they play the same exact way. A smart team will beat a dumb team every time…..It doesn’t matter who is on the floor.
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
A little humor is badly needed
The rock bottom straight out of the mid 90s. Just remember the road dogg jesse james does it doggy-style.
J-J-J-J Joe JOHNSON for 3!
I did love those late 90s teams, though.
Even if the high point was, essentially, winning one game at Chicago against Jordan’s Bulls.
Funny thing is
I remember being angry at them, 10 years ago, for forgetting how to run/defend the pick and roll. Somehow this very different team has the same problem.
I never faulted their effort, though: Smitty, Mookie, and Deke would leave it on the floor every single night.
We need Steve Austin
to give bango the deer the signature middle finger and subsequent ass kicking before game 6, if that doesn’t inspire the team then nothing will.
J-J-J-J Joe JOHNSON for 3!
Oh come on...
You can’t possibly NOT find that funny.
We still have life! We won IN MIAMI last year even with the lame acting of Soccer star Dewayne Wade! The NBA WANTED them to win and we still got it done.
Keep the faith, people! And have a few laughs!
Well I have lived a good life.
Please excuse me as I throw myself out of my window
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
Thank you duff man
my window is border line bulletproof so I cant throw myself out of it. Im trying to find an alternative
So throwed that Randy Moss jumpin up couldn't even catch it
Is that why we lost?
Because we had no Mario?
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
Crawford went 4-18
And I can’t even get angry at him. He’s a streak shooter and a streak scorer. He is what he is.
My anger is reserved for the coach that allowed him to play 35 minute despite being a non-factor on defense while having a horrible offensive night. It’s basically the exact nightmare I had when we signed Crawford, that Woody would refuse to take him even though he has an ice cold shooting night. He contributes nothing, nothing at all when he’s not making shots.
Being mad at Crawford is like being mad at the scorpion/ That’s just what he is.
Also angry at Josh because, even though taking foolish jumpshots is in his nature, he’s still too good to let us down like he did tonight. There’s just way, way too much talent there for his signature play of the night to be the missed three pointer, coming so soon after a rim-shaker.
exactly what i was thinking....
He can get to the rim, why won’t he do it more? Hasn’t anybody told this team jumpshooting teams never win championships? See the Magic last year, Dallas, Phoenix, the Sonics years ago.
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
I wish I had something to add here
but this post sums up how I’m feeling pretty damn well right now so I’ll leave it at that. I wish I didn’t love sports it’s a disease of insanity
I think nights like tonight are why we love sports. Heartbreak only bonds you stronger to a team.
It makes the triumphs much sweeter when you know well the feeling of losing.
strange but true.....
now i got to go back to work where I make up one half of the hawks fans.
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
I usually feel like that too honestly
I’ve been a sports fan as long as I can remember and between the Hawks, Falcons, Braves, UGA, and a strange fandom of Reggie Miller and his Indiana teams I have seen one championship and baseball is by far my least favorite sport. I just want one triumph somewhere, anywhere but my teams just keep ripping my heart out again and again and it’s killing me slowly. It’s insanity I tell you
Deep breaths.
I know it sucks rooting for teams that don’t deliver, but you’re going WAY too deep. I am in the same boat as you. I adopted the Hawks in 1985, then the Flames, then the Falcons, then the Braves. But does it get me down? Hell no. You know what? I am downright PROUD that I am an ATL fan in another town. We’re at least sniffing a level where we’re in the running. Hawks are a 53-win team in the playoffs. Falcons just pulled off back-to-back winning seasons with a skeleton crew and look to springboard. Braves need a little boost, but they are one or two pieces and some chemistry away from playoffs.
Let’s not lose our heads here…we’re alive and well in the ATL.
LET’S GET ONE ON THE ROAD, HAWKS!
You're right man don't mind me
After tough losses I vent for a while and it takes a day or two to get right. I was in the crazy fan zone tonight going nuts, I’ll be in front of the tv on friday and if we make it back home on sunday I’ll be right back at philips losing my voice again. That’s the thing with true sports fandom you can’t ever let it go… and I do have very high hopes for the Falcons busting through within the next couple of years especially if we can get the defense together.
And by the way: my birthday is Sunday.
If we make it back to Philips. There aren’t enough AA sponsors in the world to keep me from bathing in a cavalcade of booze.
I want this. Hopefully the Hawks do, too.
This one hurts
thats all i can really say. it just hurts.
by Bryant Singleton on Apr 29, 2010 12:44 AM EDT reply actions
Next game, if Woodson has sit Jamal or Josh Smith a little to save the team
from themselves, I’m all for it. Any thoughts?
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
i kinda get the war reference
can’t believe I’m still up……got to go to bed and think about something else….til then. Friday…..its time for war
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
WOW! Holman on Twitter...
@RealVoiceofHawk: All I can say is we will find out if our team has any balls at all Friday night. And that is all I have to say about that!
All I know is I'm expecting to be at Phillips this Sunday for game 7.
To quote Hov:
“It was all good just a week ago….”
C'MON!!!!
We have to support our Hawks! If this was the same pity party they’re having in their locker room I’d be livid.
This is the test. we’ve fought hard to get where we’re at. Now let’s show the rest we’re not gonna roll over and die. Outcoached and out-hustled but if we want to be a championship team we have to overcome these things. This is the moment of transition. From boys to men(ugh… sounds so cliche) It takes a team with heart to beat a team with heart and I believe we can do it. Take game 6 and come home so we can show our support.
GO HAWKS!!!!
by $73.27 on Apr 29, 2010 1:20 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm with you!
I just can’t give up that fast. I’m gonna be supporting those Hawks until they actually get knocked out. And some fans call the team soft, and with no heart. Seems like a lot of “Hawks fans” are punking out on the team.
Well I ain’t no punk and I plan on rooting on them ATL Hawks like they are the champs. Come on now, not supporting this team now is like kicking them when they’re down.
by DPhenomenal1 on Apr 29, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem with being a hawks fan
I know I dont write on here much, but I will go ahead and say I am a loyal fan of all things atlanta. I have been to every hawks playoff game since we made the run the past three years and average about 15 hawks games a year. I also reminisce with the jax and rider days. Tonight at the game though was just unspeakable. When I have a hawks fan trying to fight me in the fourth quarter for standing up and rooting the JJ less hawks when he cant see cause he refuses to stand up an do the same. Having a hawks fan throwing punches at me because I am loyal enough to stand up at games speakes volumes of this fan base. I dont even hardly blame the team or the coach. I am a poor GT student who manages to secure tickets to at least 15 games a season and hasnt missed a playoff game since the Woodson era began. If I cant stand up and cheer on the hawks in the upper deck then what can I do. Screw the guy who is responsible for my blackeye and called security 3 times because my friends and I were standing and trying to will this Hawks team to a game 5 victory… The fourth game against the Celtics this season when we were going for the sweep I had similar yet more docile fans telling me to sit down. This is why the arena is empty cause a fan cant stand up, cheer, and have a good time. Peace b*tches. I’m out. I would love to attend a game 7 but I feel like the team is much like the douche sitting behind me tonight. Unwilling to get up when it matters the most.
+infinity and beyond!
Experienced this too but not to the point of fighting. Words were exchanged but that was about it. And I have experienced this at more than one game too. SMH, if people want peace and quiet then just watch the game at home. It’s an NBA basketball game not the library or movie theater dammit.
by DPhenomenal1 on Apr 29, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It's time to blow it up.
Joe isn’t the guy we all want him to be. He’s a number two thrust into the #1 position. He served the Hawk trust well, but now it’s time to make the change. Marvin is a bust of massive proportions. It’s time to cut him loose or move him for a real center…someone that can let Al move to his real position. Maybe we can pick up David Lee. Maybe by some fluke of imagination we can convince Wade to come to the A…man, I just dunno. All I know is these current Hawks are at their basketball peak, and this, to me, who’s suffered through the really low points of Hawkdom, isn’t enough anymore. If we have to take a step back next year while letting Teague get real minutes at the point, then so be it. But by all means…if we don’t move a player and Joe comes back….
FIRE WOODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
49er and ATL Hawks fan since '86, Braves fan since '90, Bama fan since birth.
worse yet to come
This is bad, but this isn’t rock bottom. Rock bottom comes when the Hawks fail to show up and lose by double digits in game 6. No way should this Hawks team lose to the Bucks or even be in an extended series with them. There’s just way more talent on the Hawks’ roster with Redd and Bogut not playing for the Bucks. What more evidence could anybody need that Woody is not a coach who can take the Hawks any farther than they’ve already gotten?
I was at the game and highly pissed as were many other fans
But I have hope and believe in this team that has came so far, I doubt they will give up now. Go hawks!!
IF YOU CANT ACCEPT LOSING, YOU CANT WIN.
by Hawksgirl on Apr 29, 2010 10:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Though I hope the Hawks win,
they deserve to lose. I’m not lying. They’ve played terribly this series and they deserve to go home empty handed. That’s painful to say, but it’s nevertheless true.
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