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Hi, I'm stopping in from Fear The Sword (Cleveland Cavs blog) to see if the parents of one of your posters, atlantalove want to pick him up as he apparently got lost (maybe ran away?) and wondered over to our blog and posted this (the post has been removed, thankfully)....(oh, wait here, apparently atlantalove has returned and posted this over at Fear The Sword). And removed once again). Please see for his well being as he was quite angry in his posting.
Now since I'm here and now done with the unfortunate trolling. I wanted to ask what kind of response Atlanta fans would have if a spot opens up on the All Star roster (maybe Paul Pierce will be out) and Josh Smith wasn't added? He's been a 8.9 WARP player thus far...that's pretty damn good. Where as if another Cleveland player was added neither Mo Williams or Shaquille O'Neal (the most likely two players) have a WARP above 4. I think Smith should be in instead of Paul Pierce anyways, he's simply played better thus far.
One last question, the way things are shaping up the second seed is completely up for grabs (Orlando is down 15 pts at home vs. New Orleans as I write this), what I'm wondering is of the potential first round match ups, which team (if any) would Atlanta want to avoid, not necessarily that they would lose/be upset by this team, but that would be a bad match up and push the series longer than you'd like. Charlotte, Chicago, Miami, Milwaukee, Toronto, Boston (hey, its possible that they slip right!). I know for the Cavs it would be Charlotte due to the frustration they cause for our offense and their solid home record. Miami or Milwaukee would be preferable as they are both weak teams that look like they'd fold after going down two games in a series.
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First, love the original comments, well played sir. I don’t think anyone here realized we have a troll running around. Then again, I don’t bother going to other sites, so w/e.
Josh Smith not making the All-Star selection is a travesty to the game. He is the most important player on this Hawks team and if you aren’t blind then the numbers show him as being the best player on this team. He should have been in over Paulina Pierce from the start and he should be the first one in should anyone drop, period.
As for your last question(s), I think most here would agree that the team the Hawks want to avoid like the plague is the Orlando Magic, especially if VC starts dropping 50pt games in the second half of the season. They just match up well with the Hawks because there really isn’t a lot we can do with Howard and if we double him they have too many shooters outside to make us pay. Personally, and I admit I am biased, I wouldn’t mind getting the Celtics in the first round just so we would have the opportunity to humiliate them again. I sure don’t want to give that pleasure to any other team.
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LOL....I would love to have read that posting....
In the first round, I would definitely want to avoid Charlotte. Even though we won our last meeting, it is in no way a guarantee that we’d beat them in a 7 game series. I agree with Jesse on the Magic. I don’t want any parts of them in the 2nd round. Nightmare!
Ah yes, I’m actually surprised it was taken down, the guy running the Cavs Blog is quite liberal in allowing pretty much anything goes, so for him to take it down you can see how bad it must have been (I’m guessing it was some of the language used that did it in). It was your basic “Lebron will leave your team and I’m going to rejoice when it happens because your life as fans will suck then”, not exactly a constructive post.
To avoid the Magic in the second round (assuming the Cavs keep the top seed), either Atlanta or Orlando would have to fall to #4, which is possible, depending on what happens to Boston. I don’t think Cleveland really has developed a problem with any of the top teams specifically, I think any one of them can win a 7-game series against the Cavs with a few breaks going there way, but unlike last season there hasn’t been any “matchup” problems with Orlando, though the Cavs have only played Boston once (first game of the season) and the upcoming matchup will be more telling on how well they matchup.
Well Orlando-Cavs matchup should be interesting
Both teams are different from last year, the next few meetings will tell us a lot. Obviously Cavs got Shaq for the express purpose of fighting the muscle man, Cavs did have a problem with Orlando last year, that was clear in the playoffs. It is unclear to me yet if they have overcome the Orlando problem they had last year. Orlando has not been as consistent as Cavs this year, but they are a dangerous team.
This is true, and extrapolating from a few games (i.e. small sample size) is a good way to have yourself eating your words when its all said and done. I should say that with the addition of O’Neal and the improvement defensively of Varejao that the team has handled oppenents that typically dominate the paint (Lakers, Magic) much better than last season.
As a Cavs fan I am more concerned with atlanta than boston or even orlando at this point.
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by johnnyphoenix on Feb 9, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Cavs problem with the magic
last year was Hedo. And the fact they didn’t have Anythony Parker or Jamario Moon to defend him.
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
Thanks for agreeing with me about Smith over Pierce
I wrote a 4000 word exposé with links and comparisons last week. I see Pierce’s injury as merely the basketball gods’ response. So hopefully Josh will be named. If not, the basketball gods may be forced to escalate.
I think the national media will always be slow to realizing the decline of players (and the teams as well) who play in thier media darling cities. Boston was faced with age related issues last season and they didn’t get any younger this season, yet to this day you have ESPN media types spouting off about how they still expect a Lakers-Celtics series (if Boston is healthy, well at least they admit this little caveat, but its not just health these guys are past their primes and only likely to decline going forward).
And regarding the post he wrote
I missed it-was it about officiating conspiracies? We had a troll running around that has been banned (and got banned from the Celtics Blog as well) who was spouting about officiating conspiracies. He had another log-in name, I think.
I like how the Cavs have already claimed the number 1 spot in the Eastern Division
In all likelihood, they’ll claim that title but anything could happen. A certain somebody could have a season-ending injury and there goes the rest of the season. That goes for any team including the Hawks.
Yeah I knew when I wrote it that it came off that way, and I agree there are a number of things that would lead to the Cavs losing that position, (injuries to key players, if they make a trade and have trouble working the new player(s) into their system), but as it stands now, they are playing well enough and have such a favorable schedule the rest of the way out that they are favored (even as you admit) to take the top spot.
For the purposes of my question, it really doesn’t matter who has the top four spots, but rather who would rather avoid playing in the first round (or playoffs in general I guess), and for the Cavs its got to be Charlotte.
atlanta love strikes again. Apparently cleaned up the language from his previous post, though is mental age still shines through.
I missed all the posts on FTS.
I would have to agree that Charlotte is the team to avoid in the first round for Atlanta as well. They remind me a lot of The Hawks from a couple years ago. On the opposite end of the spectrum, Toronto would be like a dream come true for the first round, The Hawks have shown the ability to match up well playing our game, or theirs.
There's no team
that atlanta can’t beat in a seven game series in the first round this year. The second round is what we should be worried about if worried at all. Cleveland to me poses the greater threat (without concern to matchup problems) because they seem to have a mission about them. We should not end up with the 4 seed, but instead a 2 or 3 to get the team we want which is Boston. The Magic are a tough bunch but I honestly think the Magic may play soft against us in the playoffs. That might give us momentum added to the fact the hawks will have healthy stars unlike last year.
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
With the trajectory the Celtics are on, I'm thinking the Hawks and Magic will have the 2nd and 3rd seed.
Order doesn’t matter because it’s probably a sweep either way. Dunno why you think Orlando will play soft in the playoffs, they didn’t last year. The Magic depress me…
I don't think
the magic got a killer instinct dispite what our record against them may show
Atlanta will win a championship....someday

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