Atlanta Hawks 103, Los Angeles Clippers 97 or renting the front court is ok as long as you still own it
I would like to personally thank Mike Dunleavy for not doubling Joe or really providing any help defense at all in the fourth quarter. And of course a solid shout out goes to Eric Gordon for what I believe Jamal Crawford circa 2006 called "horrible shot selection."
On the more active side of winning, Josh Smith probably altered or blocked 20 shots tonight. I should go back and get the exact number just so it does not look I am exaggerating. Because Josh was good enough not to need exaggeration.
Josh's front court companion was no worse. Holding Chris Kaman to 7-21 shooting is fantastic.. Considering the defense started out rough, Horford put together a great game. Until a late foray into horrible jump shots, the Clippers kept attacking the paint. They shot the ball 48 times within ten feet, and nearly every one outside a few run out dunks, was contested. At some point, you just get tired of tough shots (unless you are Joe Johnson). Even with a barrage of makes, the Hawks never gave up the paint, and in the end, they held it down when it counted.
Marvin joins the club
Marvin Williams had a double double last night. He also shot the ball well, made some assertive moves, and had zero turnovers. Now, Marv has frustrated me this year with a seeming lack of basketball knowledge, missed shots, and overall ineffectiveness, but for me, he remains the "x" factor come playoff time. If he can make elite small forwards work on offense with an under control game, it is a huge lift for this team. Not only in its offensive variety and ability to make the defense account for one more guy but the way Marv's offensive output seems directly tied to his focus in other areas.
On guards still shooting
Maybe it is only funny because we won, but with over five minutes to go, Bob Rathbun announced "will it be Jamal Crawford or Joe Johnson for the lead." It was Jamal, and the contested jump shot was blocked.
Our guards had great offensive games. Despite the fact that Jamal only shot the ball once inside ten feet. It should simply be stated that these kinds of nights open up one on one post play and easily erase ten point second half deficits, but they cannot be relied on. Very few teams are going to let Joe play against an Eric Gordon type defender all game.
You enjoy these kinds of games. You applaud the effort and marvel at the skill but don't use it as a reason the Hawks need almost half their shots to come from two players. That all being said the Clippers gave very little reason to do something different, and I give generous butt slaps to Jamal and Joe for taking advantage of Baron Davis' willingness to foul repeatedly on jump shots.
And as a side note, my thoughts on a Joe Johnson extension would be completely different if he got/earned/given the foul calls he has the past two games. If Joe gets to the line 10 times a game, he is an elite player. Defense help aside, Joe made things look easy all night, and if someone can't get guard, you can lampoon the defense, but not without giving massive credit to Joe for giving the opportunity for such a lampooning. And as side note within a side note, lampoon should be used more often in everyday speak.
Victory Bullets
- Teams that win the tip against josh smith scare me.
- Every Jeff Teague defensive possession shows glimpses of being really good in between heaps of rookie mistakes. I find it actually quite enjoyable.
- Can there be a rule against "heat checks" when you are losing?
- Joe Smith and Zaza Pachulia front line breeds the Joe show like they are playing in an incubator.
- I like Joe Smith a lot more when he hits that two point jump shot, but then I remember he made up a Hawks rap and I figure out a way to laud his toughness in those blocking fouls.
- "That was a grown man move." Nique.
- "Kaman was just kind of holding the ball like, ‘Come here and get it. I don't want it.'" Nique
- Maybe it is set run all the time, but in the second quarter, Joe ran along the baseline, faked a post up, curled out of it, Marvin came in and posted up and Joe came off a screen at the top of the key. The play ended up not working, but it was fine looking set. It made me happy. I at least like it better than the other offensive set I am aware of which I have affectionately named "the hand off" because that is all that happens.
- Nights like this I thank God stats exist. Without them, I would have stayed up all night dreaming how unstoppable Josh Smith would be if that jump shots starts going down. Instead, I just googled his career numbers and slept like a baby.
- Joe Johnson three pointers are terrific shots when they are wide open.
- Josh Smith argued a call in the second quarter where he could audibly here some use of the word "damn" five times. "Gosh damn, damn man, gosh damn, I mean damn, (long pause) damn." Well said.
- Josh Smith is turning into a great passer.
- Just from research last tonight comparing Horford and Zaza, I have concluded that even with adequate minutes Zaza could not be an all-star. Consider the case closed.
- More impressive, Kaman's ugliness or Baron's beard? Discuss.
- Sometimes it is good Jamal Crawford only half tires on defense. It stopped at least three "and 1s."
- Don't dare him, Zaza will miss an open layup.
- Does each Camby rebound count double? That dude quietly gets a ton of boards. None of them are impressive. Luckily, he gets to point to the final numbers as he cashes his million dollar checks.
- In all honesty, the first six minutes by Chris Kaman reminded me of 7th grade. Which is another way of saying terrible.
- Please, more pick and rolls. Please.
Go Hawks
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whole lot of minutes in the second of back to back for Josh and Joe
they are going to tired at the end of this four games in five nights.
the problem is Woody does not trust a bibby, crawford back court, understandably. and the drop off from josh smith to joe smith is so drastic it is easy to understand the need.
i wish we saw horford a little more at the power forward and marvin have more minutes and in different rotations to try and get these guys rest without sacrificing hugely in one or two areas.
i just looked horford's up
he played 14% of the power forward minutes last year. this year it is only 5%
I missed this game
so I have to rely on stats and write-ups, but the numbers recently are pointing to a very problematic trend regarding rebounding. This could be due to different things: 1. the Hawks are having to play zone whenever Bibby and/or Crawford is in the game and the rebounding is suffering as a result (could explain the problem on the defensive side of the ball); 2. the Hawks are once again burning out their starters and the league-leading minutes rate played by them is catching up (could explain the distinct lack of offensive rebounds lately).
Joe Johnson played 44 minutes in a home game against the Clippers. Something that the Joe haters need to seriously note is the fact that he is the only defender the Hawks have in the backcourt and can effectively play much smaller guards as long as they are not as quick as folks like Westbrook, Parker, Harris, et. al. AND he is the gut that was bodying up Durant the other night! If he were to be out of the equation the defensive impact would be potentially monumental.
This is (one reason) why the Jamal Crawford approach has not worked with his last three teams.
A Good Win for Hawks
A good win for Hawks
Because any win is a good win. But it came against that road kill of a franchise called Clippers. I truly believe the only reason clippers exist, is because many people can’t afford Lakers ticket prices. It is best that Clippers move to Seattle. With that some thoughts,
. JJ was again great. His play in the last quarter shows how he distributes when others score, it was a fully balanced attack. It is fashionable for people to pick on him because he does ISO, but he only does that when no one else is scoring like the first three quarters or so many other games(thunder any one?), he is the line between us becoming another lost team like the clippers or being the Hawks. Unfortunately the noise of the same people who remind me of an earlier generation complaining about Dominique shooting too much, is becoming loud. It allows the ownership to do to JJ what they are doing to their Hockey star. Read this article and change the name of hockey start to JJ. Very sad
http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2010/02/03/thrashers-blow-it-with-kovalchuk-as-with-everything-else/
. Jamal has to bring the energy more than once every three games, we need his scoring to help take load off JJ. If he wants to fill the void of JJ leaving, he needs to work like JJ every night. Lion told him to pick his play up. Is that not what the coach should say (oops I forget who is our coach)
. As for lion, How many people can play with 6 stitches on their hand. Lion is the most fundamentally sound bird of them all and plays with heart every night, and Smoove was amazing with his defense and rebounding
. Tell me why Bibby is laughing in the 4th qtr with JJ. I guess he is laughing about the three year contract he duped that old Sund into. It is getting ugly with those jumpers. Yes he distributed well in the last quarter.
Zaza=zippo, yes zero for one was his line last night, and nine minutes. Missing a bunny, and the next move, he loses the ball inside. Even Woody couldn’t stand that. Daydreaming of having Camby as a replacement for zaza/Teague/… ooops there is the stone that just hit me from HawksDawgs, waking me up reminding me of his infatuation with Zaza. If only all opponents were KG and old and injured.
. Marvin, can you please play aggressive? So he passes on shots and gives the ball to JJ and people pick on JJ for shooting. Black Kojak has to take Marvin to a temple to a mosque to a church, to whatever he believes in, and makes Marvin believe in himself. I totally agree, for this team to go places, Marvin needs to come to front and play. I doubt Woody can ever turn him into the player he needs to.
. I think I heard Woody say in his post game conference he has Bibby in the game at the end for his defense and rebounding. Is he losing it?
Well we move on. Getting hungry for some meat, and "Bulls Stew" on Friday night. Go Hawks
I want a blowout.
The starters need some rest and the bench need some PT.
yeah that really sucks
the thrashers couldn’t keep kovalchuk. We’ll see how that goes for the future of Atlanta hockey….and I haven’t been to a hockey game yet. darn
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
Re: Eric Gordon
I was out and DVRed the game. Accidentally set it on the Clippers broadcast. The play by play guy actually said Eric pulled a shot “out of his ass”. It was completely awesome. The color guy was a little shocked.
I’ll be youtubing it soon.
by Duff_Man on Feb 4, 2010 10:49 AM EST via mobile reply actions
jj is my fav player and although the iso kills me sometimes he delivers the best way he can on both ends of the floor. the only tI'm I was flustered was when he was forcing it so early in the game
But he is the only one I would want to do it and would actually trust doing it. good game last night guys. that was a great co.me back win. fourth quarter dominance is back and jj came through. jamal, he is the difference. nothin else to say about about him. smoove was great and al showed up when it mattered and roared(lol). now its time for a showdown with the bulls. Go Hawks!
by Hawksgirl on Feb 4, 2010 12:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Marcus Camby would look sexy
in a Hawks uniform next year. He’s one of the lesser talked about free agents in 2010. If Joe signs for less than a max deal then I think we would have room as Camby is expected to sign for two years 5-7 mil per next summer. However it would probably mean the end of Jason Collins, Mo Evans, Randolph Morris and Joe Smith. Which would mean the end of our bench would be made up of D league members. However a top 9 of Bibby, Joe, Jamal, Marvin, Josh, Al, Camby, ZaZa, and Teague sounds promising to me.
I very much like this proposal
And filling the roster with D-leaguers would not be a significant step down. That top nine would be nice, especially if Teague can progress and start to take Bibby’s minutes next season.
Is Cambystarting in this scenareo?
Either way, probably won’t happen. Jamal is owed 8 figures next year and the Hawks don’t wanna be a tax team.
Thank God for Mike Dunleavy
He’s a decent GM, but a horrible coach. The only guy in the NBA that makes Black Kojak look like a genius.
this win
was good only because the hawks finally woke up after being down 13 in the first half and 12 in the third quarter. If the Clippers had a “go to” guy we probably would’ve been in trouble. On to the bulls
Atlanta will win a championship....someday

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