Atlanta Hawks 110, Los Angeles Clippers 94 or "playing big man games"
by hawksdawgs on Feb 18, 2010 7:21 AM EST
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PrintIt is not that every shot the Hawks took was easy and uncontested in the first half, but every shot they made was. Al Horford's shot chart in one awkward shaped circle around the basket because of dunk on top of dunk on top of layup. Most of that had to do with a lack of defense, but some of it should be credited to ball movement.
It is not very often a team can describe their four and five guy as having a legit "two man game" going, but Al and Josh did. I was ready to see some pick and rolls with those guys. If the rest of league follows suit with the Clippers and decimates their team, the future is very bright for the Hawks.
I understand know one is buying season tickets for the rest of campaign after this game. The only thing exciting about this contest was that the team was playing again. The Clippers were half a team. Here is what matters. Wins. Especially road wins. Sure, a loss last night would have meant a lot more than any win could, but that in a sense, that is why this win matters. It is why any win matters. Because it is a win. Expected or not, educational about the team or not, no matter. You win and you move on. You can build on any win. I don't care if it is against six year olds. If it is on the schedule, I type recaps happy. And any 31 point outburst by Al Horford automatically means something to me. I will make it so.
Victory Bullets
- "Come on Jamal, work." Woody screaming on Crawford's second defensive possession of the game.
- I know the Clippers are a team in serious transition, but 22 turnovers is a lot of turnovers. Kind of like if you weigh 300 pounds, eating 22 doughnuts is still a lot of doughnuts.
- When I actually saw Zaza Pachulia with an under control post move in the first quarter, I spit out my orange juice. Apparently, that has been absent a while.
- On the other hand, the illegal screen on the next offensive possession by Zaza was no threat to my OJ.
- "You have to learn how to draw some iron." Nique on DeAndre Jordan's free throw shooting.
- Hitting zero three pointers is so much nicer when there are only seven taken compared to say going 3-21.
- After a timeout, Steve Blake shot one of those after the buzzer jumpers from about 16 feet and almost air balled. Not good.
- Does anyone else think the bride's father woke up nightly in cold sweats thinking about Jason Collins at the buffet line.
- I enjoy how TV guys often have long pauses after audible cuss words by players. It is like farting during a test in high school. Ignore it, and it never happened.
- Gordon has a dunk in the second quarter that probably would have won the dunk contest. And it wasn't even that good.
- The scoop shot needs to happen more. Who should I direct my letters to?
- I have never seen someone who cares less about where his pass goes than Chris Kaman.
- Viva la "Big man games." (copyright Al Horford).
Go Hawks!
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To much shock.
Al and Josh shot the same amount as Jamal/JJ/Bibby not counting foul shots. I know it seemed like the big’s controled the game even though our star guards shot as many. Geeeeze I hope shooting the same amount becomes normal. Feed a big – win a game.
Great Recap
I love this site. It makes me happy…a little sliver of heaven. Great game. A win is a win and I’ll take it over a loss any day. Kind of like the way Pierce celebrated his 3 pt contest win over his little brother. Awesomeness!!!
Are we a better team when Horford and Smoove score 30 and 20, or when JJ and Jamal score 30 and 20?
I vote for for the first.
"Hey Fat Kid...the monster is right behind you! RUNNNN!!" -The Host
A balanced team is always the way to go
Hawks are a greater team when the scoring is balanced. We have great bigs and great shooting guards that can all score. We do need to feed the bigs more often than we normally do. We are learning and growing and our bigs are going to also have to keep demanding. Sometimes we are too sweet. Even last night, one can argue Lion did not shoot too much. Good game to get warmed up. Now we have to get ready for another one of those games where the opponent has circled us on their schedule (think Toronto, Denver, Houston, Boston games earlier). Suns have been waiting for us. As have Jazz who were embarrassed. But now that the warm-up is over, let’s get serious, and here is hoping Stoudemire gets traded somewhere today, any where :) Also, I thought rookie played well last night. We need him now to start stepping up desperately
Am I crazy?
I feel like Cleveland trading away Big Z is actually going to help us when we play them. Now if they could only rid themselves of VHo.
And it seems like there are a lot of pieces to be had, but I think the type of contracts we have now are preventing that from taking place.
Ilgauskas though...
appears likely bought out, and back in Cleveland after 30 days.
by Mr. Sanchez on Feb 18, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Yep. A shady move.
But apparently totally legal.
Nice game last night
Al and smoove took an opportunity to takeover and ran with it last night. This is a win that should boost their confidence for the next one to come.
+1
Horford had an interview up at Hoopshype.com, about how he felt he could be a go-to scorer. In the article, he said that he could become that type of scorer by the end of the season. This is an excellent chance for him, and Smoove, to build on a great performance and possibly become a consistent mega-scoring threat.
And by mega-scoring, I mean possibly 20 points a game.
"Hey Fat Kid...the monster is right behind you! RUNNNN!!" -The Host
by bwellnjonesco on Feb 18, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know....
Kinda hard to get hyped about a Horford 30+ point game when there was no Camby. I mean damn, Chris Kaman…..now there’s some stiff competition. Whatever. Sorry guys, but I’m a bit miffed once again this year around this time. Just the fact that there has been no mention of the Hawks just irritates me when I look at how the other teams around us continue getting better. We sat and watch Orlando get Vinsanity. Now Cleveland gets Jamison. I think the only big we have over 7 feet is Jason Collins (Randolph is NOT a 7 footer). Really? Jason Collins. Yea, yea…..he’s been to 2 Finals. Someone said it earlier I read. He and his twin brother can’t even average 10 points together. We settle while our competition improves.
Now mind you, the only trade…..I repeat……the ONLY trade I as a fan want to see is Marvin, Randolph, Jason and maybe Joe Smith in a package for a 7 footer that produces and another guard. We need frontcourt and bench help. Let’s pick up some expiring contracts this year to free up some cap to either give to Joe next year (YUCK!) or get a STAR. What do you think?
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by Hawks Fan From Day One on Feb 18, 2010 2:07 PM EST reply actions
I have to disagree
Its a dime a dozen we find a worthy replacement for jj and marv is showing skill that has helped them win. I know we need another consistent big but not that badly. the hawks need to toughen up and play to their full potential and they will be fine in my eyes…………not saying adding couldn’t hurt but at the expense of starting over, I don’t know
by Hawksgirl on Feb 18, 2010 2:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I honestly think
a Marvin trade could happen. That is if someone would want what we have in exchange. Woodson already likes Bibby, Joe, Jamal, Josh, and Al in the fourth so they probably won’t even miss him. I know we all would like Marvin to reach his full potential and prove the haters wrong about his draft position five years ago, but if we NEED a quality big, what would you do?
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
isntr marv on a contract?
I would deal mo(though he isn’t available) and some others but if they were in a spot marv would be a nice piece to deal but it would depend on what player. It better not be someone is disguise as another sheldon bust……..idk but I don’t want the core broken up.
by Hawksgirl on Feb 18, 2010 2:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd put Marvin as tied to JJ...
keep JJ, and Marvin probably needs to move. Have JJ walk, and he can hopefully step up his game with more touches.
can't believe this but I agree with that statement
Its so true and I didn’t see it that way til now……..
by Hawksgirl on Feb 18, 2010 6:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not saying to start over....
I hardly view Marvin as one of the core. I see him more of Billy Knight’s last (and probably greatest) mistake. We all should know why. We had another chance to erase that mistake and again, we did nothing. I’m not mad about it, though.
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by Hawks Fan From Day One on Feb 18, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Guys, face it.....
Marvin has not lived up to his potential here in his FIFTH year. Look, remember when they made a big deal out of him working on his jumpshots in particular, threes. He came out that next couple of games ON FIRE. That died out pretty damn fast. The game after they aired his little special the other day, he was practically a no-show. I thought that was when he would really show out. Nada. The dude just don’t play with any heart. You can’t teach that. To some other teams, Marv could have been an attractive piece in a trade. I bet you we didn’t even make a move. Hawksgirl, if you’re the same from the Hawks site, you know you my girl! What’s up! However, when you say “another Sheldon bust”……ok, he’s not Sheldon’s weak ass, but the inconsistency in his game is definitely not contributing when you look at players holding down their positions. This man STARTS. Really? I can’t tell! Ask yourself….is Marvin a starter on any other NBA teams and if so, how many? Who? I’m not waiting on him to “hopefully step his game up” anymore. 5 years. He’s decent at best on defense. What does he average? I have to go and look that up.
Sorry guys…don’t mean to be a wet blanket on ol’ Marv, but with me, it’s about the name on the front of the jersey versus the name on the back. I do have my favs, though! “The Difference!” (That really needs to start catching on! LOL)
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by Hawks Fan From Day One on Feb 18, 2010 8:00 PM EST reply actions
what's up!! long time lol
But on another team marv wouldn’t start but in the strictly defense woody teaches marv is the ideal piece for that. the difference can’t play as good d………and yea I admit waiting on a player to blosom is getting old but I see sparks of his potential when we need it most and its hard for me to let that go. and when I said sheldon bust, I meant that if we let go of marv we want to get someone experienced or worthy and not be in the position when we didn’t have enough in a position ya know.
by Hawksgirl on Feb 19, 2010 12:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Marvins FG% is up to .442
If you want 15 pts a game who would you like to take shots away from? The difference? Marvin is the 5th option and as long as JJ/Jamal/Al and Josh are hot – his 10.3 a game is just fine. Of course the next 30 games and playoffs will tell us more. Don’t give up on him just yet. If we have an injury, Marvin will be needed.
Al needs to Rebound
The points are nice but Al has not been playing defense and getting rebounds consistently for like the last month. Case and point about a month ago the guy was averaging 10 reb, now its down to 9.3 which ties for his lowest career mark. I like Al but he is having to many sub-par outings as well.
Al has been in a little funct since he hurt his hand
The only thing bad about the All-Star game is Al could have used the rest. Fortunately Josh has picked up his rebounding as Al has lost his. Woody has played Al to many minutes because ZaZa has been hurt and Joe smith hasn’t played liked we hoped. If ZaZa regains his form and Al can play fresher I think he will be fine. We will see.
by RivBoatGambler on Feb 19, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
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