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Initial Reaction: Pistons 103, Hawks 80

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Quick Thought: Hands raised, who thinks they can just show up to a game and win in the NBA. Uh-uh, not so fast, Atlanta Hawks.

Summary:

Hard for me to put my finger on how many levels of stink this game registered at, but we'll comment on as many as we can.

The Hawks played as if they were biding their time and eventually their great team would rise up against the lesser Pistons club. Problem was, the Pistons were the ones who looked like they had their crap together all night. 

They constantly found ways for Richard Hamilton to score in the first half, moved the ball very effectively and took advantage of the Hawks shaky perimeter defense over and over again. 

The Hawks, on the other hand, took for-ev-er to get into their sets offensively, especially when Mike Bibby left the game, leaving them little time to do more than launch contested long shot after contested long shot, predictably leaving the team rather flat on the scoreboard and trailing throughout.

They rallied in the third quarter, basically by playing the starters the whole time. But when the fourth quarter started, and more bench had to come in, it was the beginning of a typical Detroit disaster for the ATL.

That the Hawks were only down three when the quarter started and were clearing the bench a mere 9 minutes later tells the story pretty well, but not totally. The badness began when Coach Drew decided crunch time was a good time to give Josh Powell his first action of the night. Powell promptly allowed an offensive rebound, turned the ball over twice, and watched as Charlie Villanueva layed the ball in without a challenge from Powell. 

It wasn't all Powell's fault....but it was just the kind of grease that the Hawks didn't need to slip off the competitive ledge they had spent the whole game clinging to by a nail. 

The final total in the fourth quarter: Pistons 39, Hawks 19, with the last three Piston points coming from known Hawk Hater Charlie V. Consider the magnitude of the breakdown. Six Hawks turnovers. And Hamilton had zero of his team high (24) points in the fourth quarter and only 4 for the entire second half. That means Villanueva (23 points), Rodney Stuckey (16 points, 10 assists), and a frisky Tracy McGrady (16 points on 5-9 shooting, 6 rebounds, 3 assists, a steal, a block, all in 26 minutes) were the ones that did in the Hawks.

The Hawks must have seen the Hamilton absence as excellent strategy as Al Horford, he of the 17 point, 7-14 night from the floor, had a single shot (he missed it) in the deciding final quarter. Josh Powell took (4), as did Josh Smith.

Also:

I've lauded Al Horford time and time again, so allow me to nit pick regarding his performance tonight. Many times Horford holds the ball too long at the top of the key. I know he's looking to pass because the play calls for it, but there are times when nobody is open and his defender is nowhere in sight that he has to go to the basket with the ball. He defers way too often when he doesn't have to and sometimes it puts the Hawks in a position where there is no time left (because we initiate the play with 10-12 seconds left) and all that can be done is a long, contested, jump shot.

Jamal Crawford: 31 minutes, 2 points (1-6), 0 rebounds, 4 assists, 5 turnovers

Damien Wilkins: 32 minutes, 4 points (2-5), 2 rebounds, an assist, 3 steals

Maurice Evans: 14 minutes, 3 points (1-2), 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 4 fouls

That's an awful lot of minutes from the guards on the team without much positive production, period. Meanwhile, the last two first round picks for the Hawks (both guards, if you can't remember) played five minutes, all from Jeff Teague. Jordan Crawford continues to scratch, not even dressing with Joe Johnson still out. Me thinks we are overrating the "Proven Veteran" role a smidge.

Silver Lining: There is always a next game....and Thursday is in Boston, on TNT. So the Hawks got the nastiness out of their system and are going to bounce back, guns blazing in a nationally televised statement game......aren't they?

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Or, if they play certain players those same number of minutes

In no way should Wilkins be allowed 15+ minutes, much less 30+. If you are going to lose by 20+, then put your damned draft picks in and let them learn. Wilkins, Powell, Thomas, and Evans provide absolutely nothing to this team other than depth for the sake of having depth. That kind of depth will be this team’s undoing as the season progresses.

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by Jesse28 on Dec 15, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

initial reaction: SMH

I guess the forgone conclusion before the game was; going with the big lineup will not work. Jamal can be really good and unconsciously bad. His shot selection last night was pick up game at best. If we’re suppose to run our offense through Al and Josh, why the hell aren’t they taking guys off the dribble to get easier shots? Then again I can probably say that for anybody on this team.

The icing on the cake for this game was when Teague finally comes in garbage minutes, Powell comes in for the first time in the fourth, and the best crunch time play the Hawks is a two man pick game with Al and Bibby. Everyone else just stand around and not even look to get involved before, during, or after the play. I have no problem with Wilkins getting a lot more minutes because defensively he kept us in the game.

Exit question: Going back to the whole “Let Joe walk conversation,” What guarantee does anybody have that we get back on top with the management we have?

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on Dec 15, 2010 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

Elite Team?

I’m A Hawks fan to the core and have been my whole life. So when i say this i have every right to. The Hawks are supposed to be an elite team? Yet we get beat by the Nets, the Bucks, and now the Pistons? It’s bad enough we can’t beat hard teams like the Celtics(last year we swept them during the season), the Heat, and the Magic(with the exception of that one game, they beat us already this season and we have two more games aginst them) but to lose to teams like this? We almost lost to the Sixers, we should have blown that game out instead of “coming back” in the 4th to win it! As a fan, I’m disgusted with the team this year. We won 53 games last year, and if the Hawks dosen’t get it in gear soon, we’ll be lucky to win 40! We have a good player in Jordan Crawford, our draft pick, and yet we don’t use him when we should. Evans, Thomas, and Wilkins(nothing like his uncle, or father for that matter) are just not putting up the numbers. I will give Wilkins this, he’s not “too bad” on defence( i use that word loosly), but he can’t seem to get the ball in the basket. Powell’s not too bad, but he’s got his flaws as well. Ja. Crawford, the NBA’S sixth man of the year, isn’t so much a canidate for the award this year. I know there is alittle drama about him wanting an extension on his contract, and he has said that has affected his game, well needs to focuse on season now and worry about his contract later. All in all, the Hawks isn’t the team we had last year. It’s still early in the season and things can happen, but they need to starting picking it up soon if they want to break 53 wins, or even make the playoffs for that matter!!

by hawksfan85 on Dec 15, 2010 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

I'd rather Wilkins start at SF at this point

His defense has kept us in the few games he’s played even though we lost a couple.

These regular season IMO is like preseason in itself, teams win and lose, so when the hawks make the playoffs we’ll see how they perform and see how management reacts.

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on Dec 15, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

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