Al Horford really is that important
"I haven’t had a night like that this year. Unfortunately, I had it tonight." - Al Horford via the AJC
If you told me Jamal Crawford and Joe Johnson were going to combine for 56 points on 55% shooting, Josh Smith would dish out seven assists and pull in 16 boards, Marvin would put in 10 points, and the Hawks would only have 7 turnovers, I would bet large sums of money on a Hawks' win.
It, of course, was not a win. Even if you call it a moral victory, you can't call it a win. Moral victories are still losses. You just don't break lamps over them. No, the Hawks put up good numbers and got whooped. A majority portion of the credit goes to San Antonio for having probably their best game of the season (at least there best first half), and a decent portion can be placed on Joe Johnson, Jamal Crawford, and Mike Bibby's horrendous defense in the first half. And we can of course go to the tried and true by tipping our hat to the overall lack of effort by the Hawks as Spurs got wherever they wanted to go on the court.
Yet, the most abnormal cause for those perfectly great stats still leading double digits deficits for almost an entire game was Al Horford. Since I love Al, I have already put full blame on his stitched hand, but he was off last night. He did not bale out bad defense or take advantage of open shots. He could not secure rebounds or get his teammates involved. But most strikingly, Al lost his energy. He had no impact on the game. I think that is the first time I can honestly write that all season.
Horford comes every night with an understated leadership and workman's effort. In the midst of ranting about getting him more shots, I think we forget the dude lays the tracks for just about every victory the Hawks have. Last night, Al Horford was bad, and even worse, I saw quit in his game. That was tough to type, let alone witness. Yet, maybe it is these moments that make me appreciate all Horford does for this team. Through 43 games, no matter how many points he scored or rebounds he grabbed, the man had not had a bad game. Not one. Every night he was a reason the team was as good as it was. If it takes one bad game to remind me of that, I guess I can take it. Like I said before, moral victories.
Loser Dots
- I don't know why I have never done this before, but I am seriously questioning Marvin Williams basketball IQ.
- We wasted a possible Joe "freaking" Johnson last night. That is sad.
- Of late, Jamal Crawford is not even flopping on these four point plays. His release demands you foul him apparently.
- Zaza Pachulia needs more work in the lay up lines.
- Three years ago, did you ever think you read this? (via Hoopinion) "I contend, that without Smith's defensive effort in the first half Atlanta never would have had the chance to get the game within single digits in the second half. San Antonio's 66 first half points came despite Smith, not because of him."
- After a lot of stat work, I have come to the conclusion Mike Bibby was bad last night.
- Everyone root for double overtime tonight for the Celtics.
Go Hawks!
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That's alright! That's okay! Shake it off! Shake it off!
Ahhh! That’s okay the ATL Hawks will get another shot at San Antonio in March. It indeed was a moral victory because the Hawks came out in the second half and never gave up. The defense missing in the first half was back in action in the second half. Now that game is down in the books as a loss, it’s time to move on to the game on Friday against the Celtics.
I’m rooting for the Celtics to get about 3 more losses so Coach Mike Woodson gets the honor of coaching in the All Star game and also the Hawks will be in 2nd place. Gonna be a tough weekend for the team. The Hawks have been on a grind all week. Houston, San Antonio, Boston, and Orlando. Whew boy not an easy task. 2 games down one in the wins column the other in the loss column. Two more to go.
If the team takes it one game at a time and stays focused and determined I believe they’ll come out on top.
I like Hortford as a Center unless we are playing Orlando, Lakers, Spurs, or Cavs. I like him as a PF against the World!
So that's only 4 teams out of 29!
So most games Horford is a center right. SMH! We play LA and San Antonio twice. Cavs and Orlando 4 times. That’s about 12 games out of 82. So 70 games Al is a center. But only twelve he’s not. Most teams win about 60 games at the most. So what is your point again?
by DPhenomenal1 on Jan 28, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
i seriously saw panic mode
in the hawks in the first quarter. Ball movement was non-existent and settling for jump shots was the norm. Of course we’ve said this about a lot of hawk losses. But here in lies the question: Do we stick with the starting line up we have against every team? It was blatantly obvious that once bibby stepped on the floor the spurs had a decisive advantage in the point guard position. Bibby needed help(to say the least) on containing Parker. And on another subject: When will the hawks realize that drving to the basket will win them 50% more games?
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
So! And!
Atlanta Hawks 29-15, San Antonio Spurs 26-18!
by DPhenomenal1 on Jan 28, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Tim Duncan is truly...
one of the all time greats, and possibly top 10 among big men all time. It’s no shame to be bested by him when he’s on his A game.
Al is a Lion
He is the most fundamentally sound of our Hawks. He may not admit it, but his bloodied and bruised hand affected him. It may still affect him tomorrow night. I am not at all worried about Al.
Point is, every great player in NBA, and Al is close to that category, will have off nights. On those nights, our bench should help. Our big men are not capable to block the way to basket. They are slow. So we ask JJ and Jamal to get in there and help. We have two great two scoring guards, and if it is scoring or defense, God knows we need the scoring (Woody will never agree). Why not deploy Jason Collins? Why not try him out?
Let’s get a capable defender big man before the trade deadline, that will really help our front line men not feel so much pressure all the time. Go Hawks
Brendan Haywood
Haywood is the answer. As far as Al being anything close to great at the Center position, I totally disagree. I have never seen Al take Shaq or Big Z to the rack on a consistent basis, a great player would take that advantage all game and foul them both out. Furthermore, he does not make the open jumper enough to bring the bigger Centers out and give his teammates open driving lanes. He is not near great, but would be at the PF position
ok....no
Haywood has never taken Shaq and Big Z to the rack on a consistent basis. That would mean that AL has gotten the ball and post up those guys (which he hasn’t on a consistent basis). Haywood would be a great addition (if we didn’t give up AL or Josh) but to say Al’s shot isn’t good enough is showing a little ignorance, noting that you probably haven’t watched a lot of hawk games.
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
i agree with maxxj3
Al’s has a termendous shooting percentage, one of the highest in the leagure. If you watch him on a consistent basis this year, our lion has a great outside shot, from 15 to 20 feet, particularly from the baseline. He is a solid shooter. I probably agree he struggles against the very big men of the teams you mentioned, but very few other teams can push him out. Listen to Doc Rivers comment about him after our last game with the Cs, and Doc talks about our lion’s heart. It is the heart that matters a lot more than just the size of the man
While I respect your right to an opinion
Brendan Haywood is not the answer to anything. Regardless of the question. Any question in the world can earn at LEAST 50% credit with an answer of “Not Brendan Haywood.”
I watch or am at every Hawks game
Just because you disagree with me does not mean that I am showing ignorance, you are most likely the ignorant one. No one is saying give up Al or Josh for Haywood. The guy has a 1 year 6 mill buck contract. Give up Zaza and a pick or Zaza and Mo. You obviously don’t do your research.
I'm not saying you said that
I’m saying IF we have to give up AL or Josh. This is what you said: “he does not make the open jumper enough to bring the bigger Centers out and give his teammates open driving lanes” First of all, if you watch the games, he can hit open jumpers. And also, if you know the personel, who on the team will give up a jumper for an open lane?
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
I am still proud that the Hawks didn't give up
even though it resulted in Smoove and JJ playing over 40 minutes. Oh well, the Spurts seem to be one of those teams that just has a crazy night against us. Remember last year when Tony Parker went off for 45 points? It happens…
Can’t wait for this weekend!
According to Ball Don't Lie, Horford made the All-Star team
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Spoiler-All-Star-reserves-revealed?urn=nba,216300
I’m happy for Horford and he most definitely deserves it, but Josh Smith needed to make it. I may be slightly biased cause Josh is my laptop background and he’s on my fantasy team, but I feel like he should have made it. Freaking A.I. and Garnett…JJ of course made it too.
Smoove
He is the one that makes Hawks fly. The one that make the audience jump from their seats(my sofa actually :)) I really really think Smoove deserves it. Let’s have 4 of them and Woody (i know it is surreal if Woody makes it to the all star game!!!!)
I was looking forward
To seeing Lebron and Smooth running side by side
No way
Sorry to disagree, but David Lee deserves the nod over Al Horford easily.
i have gone back and forth with Knicks and non-Knicks about this
conclusion: it is a total toss up. you could not go wrong choosing either guy.
but this was not a post about making the all-star. this was about what Horford does for the team. and David Lee on the Hawks getting less shots a game would severly hurt the Hawks.
Horford defends, can switch on screens, and blocks/alters shots. he does a 1,000 little things that help the team win.
that being said I love david lee.
I wonder...
Will we be able to retain Al Horford after his contract is up? Assuming that we lock Joe Johnson up to a multi-year, close to the maximum contract, will we have enough money to sign Horford next offseason? I’m asking because I’m not exactly a cap expert so I’m just wondering if we’d have to move Marvin or someone else’s larger contract to make room for Horford’s extension.

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