Jason Collins, where the hot spot goes to die.
by hawksdawgs on Sep 3, 2009 7:03 AM EDT
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The Hawks signed Jason Collins. It is hard to get excited about a guy that is one one hundredth of a point away from not having a hot spot (over .500 shooting) on the entire floor and rebounds at a slightly lower rate than Spencer Hawes. But hey, at least we got the taller of the two twins.
The only way this move makes sense is for eight games a year and in those eight games, only for about a quarter and half. So basically the Hawks need Jason Collins for 12 quarters next season. That of course would be when the Hawks play the Orlando Magic and Cleveland Cavaliers.
Collins is not going to stop Shaquille O'Neal or Dwight Howard mind you, but he might put them on the line and make them earn their points for a little while in the second quarter. And more importantly, it would keep Al Horford from entering the Mike Woodson dug hole which there is no escape, two fouls in the first half.
While I failed to find a reason to set fire works and go bar hoping over this signing, the roster spot has to be filled. I just hope Jason Collins is replacing Randolph Morris and not bolstering the bench alongside him.
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What's up with all the J's?
Are we only signing people whose name begins with a J? Joe, Joe, Josh, Jason, and Jamal. I can’t wait to see this roster perform though.
(sigh)
Other than another big body….i don’t know if this really does anything for us….other than help out with the big-guy rotation (sigh)
I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed.
-Michael Jordan, #23
Not sure if I get this
I think it’s indicative of one thing-the Hawks view Joe Smith as more of a back-up PF than a third string center. Here’s the significance of that line of thought-the second string PF stands to get more minutes than the third string C.
Also, by further implication, if Joe Smith is the back-up PF and stands to get a good number of minutes in that spot, it means fewer line-ups that have Horford and Zaza playing together, which is a shame since they can be very effective playing together at times.
If we’re talking about a guy who is playing sparingly, probably getting less than 200 minutes the entire season, Othello Hunter does that much more cheaply, and offers the potential of having upside. Jason Collins is not suddenly going to transform into a legitimate back-up C, but Hunter offers the possibility of developing into one.
i agree with you on almost every point
but part of me is hoping Rick Sund is doing what Billy Knight failed to/was not allowed to for financial reasons ever do. have a 15 man roster where the back end is not full of non-roster invitees.
with collins we are talking about a 10th man at best. if the 10th man screws up a major rotation move like pairing Horford and Zaza, I am going to freak.
i guess i am saying we might be over thinking the move because a) we read and write hawks blogs b) we have not had a roster full of actual or even once upon a time actual nba players and we don’t know what it means for the team now that we do.
Well, that’s where the confusion comes. If he’s basically never going to play, how is he any better than a non-roster invite? A guy who was once useful, long ago, is much less interesting than a guy who has the potential to possibly be somehow useful in the future.
Essentially, I’d probably rather take the non-roster invitee than Jason Collins who, given his service time, probably doesn’t even come cheaply if he’s making the vet minimum.
The thing that scares me is that Woodson is much more likely to fall in love with the lackluster contributions of a veteran than those of a undrafted kid out of Temple. Giving Woodson a Jason Collins is risking the possibility of Woodson actually USING Jason Collins.
He'll going to be making a shade over 1 million
How is that any more than we are would pay Othello Hunter? I’m all for getting a guy with potential over a nearly useless vet. But I think this signing was about filling the end of our bench with a vet that we know is professional, and will hopefully have a positive influence on the rest of the team.
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