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Mike Bibby signs three year deal to stay with the Hawks

Ladies and gentlemen your 2009-2010 Hawks back court is now all but set. Heavy on scoring, light on defense. Like not even worth eating light.

With Jeff Teague, Joe Johnson, Jamal Crawford and now Mike Bibby the Hawks have a back court that can score in just about every way imaginable. Three point shots, runners, dunks. drives, spot ups, pull ups, layups. You want your guard to score a specific way, the Hawks have a player that is probably pretty good at doing it

It remains to be seen whether that right scorer will be on the court at the right time and allowed to take the right shot while surrounded by the right players to mask what is probably the wrong defensive capabilities.

As excited as I am about the Hawks quality of offensive player on the depth chart, Joe Johnson remains the only all around player among the four. Jamal Crawford may provide improvement on both ends of the floor and Teague may find the desire and skill to thrive as an all around player, but at the current state of their game, this Hawks back court at best enjoys defense in the same way that I enjoy getting a hair cut. I will do it every once in a while so people don't judge and ridicule me, but it is going to happen as little as possible.

So why did the Hawks make sign Mike Bibby?

The organization knows he cannot play defense. You do not just forget that fact when you pledge 18 million over three years. It would be like tendering a qualifying offer to Mario West, it would be like spending almost 70 million on someone who cannot score like Ben Wallace, it would be dumb. I mean Kelly Dwyer actually references Bibby's "league-worst defense." It is not a disillusioned Hawks fan's reality. It is plain reality. Mike Bibby makes teams worse on defense. If you need good defense to win championships, the signing of Bibby seems like a status quo deal. A lets try to hold on to this second round loss team move. 

So I ask again, why did the Hawks sign Mike Bibby to play for them until he is 35? The answer is Jeff Teague. Mike Bibby is not the future of the Hawks point guard situation, Jeff Teague is. The back court Rick Sund has compiled will be at least as good as last year. It may be better. But yes, with Mike Bibby as a starter, the the Hawks may not get out of the second round. Rajon Rondo or Mo Williams will take advantage of our little 36 minute defensive lapse at the point guard position.

But Jeff Teague will have the chance to develop his very large well of natural talent under Bibby who I can rip for six paragraphs and then say without feeling the tad embarrassed because it is undeniably true, is a man who knows how to win. He knew how to in college and if not for David Stern and the refs during one horrible game against the Lakers, may have known how to in Sacramento. Bibby is a professional and a leader who has anchored the Hawks into the expectation that they should make the playoffs every year.  His weaknesses are so apparent  I often forget  how  the team has gone from out of the playoffs race before his arrival to a seventh game against the eventual champion to home court advantage in the first round. The Hawks are better with Mike Bibby, and as he gets older, that will not always be the case with him on the court, but it may still be as it relates to him on the team.

He is a six million dollar tutor who makes your star player happy  and can hit three pointers like some people hit free throws. That is not a bad deal.

The signing of Bibby does not make the Hawks back court great, but at least for one year, it does make it good. And at some point, you have to trust the players you draft will develop, and in that sense, Mike Bibby is the rare guy that can buy a team time, make the other Hawks feel confident, and bridge the position for the future.

Poll
How do you feel about the resigning of Mike Bibby?
I love it. I wish it was for five years.
29 votes
Necessary years. Necessary money.
132 votes
I wanted him back but only for two years.
80 votes
Yea the Hawks needed one more PG, but how about Andre Miller.
26 votes
Jamal Crawford was great. With Bibby, we wasted money we should have spent on Zaza.
18 votes
Bring back Speedy!
8 votes

293 votes | Poll has closed

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i feel the same way

i share your disappointment but for a different reason. i am a huge fan of mike bibby and i wished with all my heart that he would choose to sign with any team except atlanta. fans loved him in high school, in college and in sacramento. i guess it is asking too much from you guys to show some respect for what he has brought to the hawks. do you actually have to quote kelly dwyer? i don’t think so. well, this is your blog and this is a place for hawks’ fans and not for mike bibby fans who would also love to be hawks’ fans. now, that’s reality.

by djsm on Jul 7, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

why did you not want him to sign with atl?

it is tough to argue that bibby is bad at defense, on the downside of his career, or that18 million is a lot of money and other pg were out there for the hawks.

if i hyped up the bibby negatives, it was more for dramatic effect than to be mean spirited. in the end, i am glad bibby is in atlanta. I think i said as much. come 2011-2012, i would love his 6 million to spend else where but am willing to see the benefit even then.

this is certainly a place for mike bibby fans. my opinion often differs widely from people who visit this site and hawks fans in general, and i quote kelly dwyer because he is a very good writer or knows a lot about basketball.

by hawksdawgs on Jul 7, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're being nice, Drew.

You didn’t hype the negatives, you were honest in your assessment. We like the guy despite that he is really, really bad on defense. It’s ok; he’s really good at other things that are very important.

by rbubp on Jul 7, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uhh...

First of all. most Hawks fans posting on these blogs like Bibby and fully recognize what he has brought to the team (which was mentioned in the essay). Second of all, you might be just a tad-bit biased in your assessment of Mike’s abilities at this stage in his career.

Third, you might double-check your reading comprehension skills, because nowhere does the essay suggest that Bibby is not wanted at all.

by rbubp on Jul 7, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

reading comprehension skills include reading between the lines

first of all, i was addressing hawksdawgs and his previous comments about mike bibby. second of all, i was not asking for an MVP award for mike at this point, just an appreciation for his effort. and thirdly, kindly double-check hawksdawgs’ reply where he admitted to hyping up bibby negatives. how can you be glad to have in your team someone who has been described as having the “league-worst defense?” and off all the things that have been said about mike, why quote that now if you are truly glad to have him back?

having said that, i will leave this blog and never post again. thanks a lot, it was nice of you remind me to double-check my reading comprehension skills.

by djsm on Jul 7, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read your first post four times

and I still have no idea what you were trying to say. Guess we’ll never know now…

(dramatic pause)

RBUBP!

by thirdfALCON on Jul 7, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ladies and gentlemen,

Elvis has left the building. Sorry to mess up the fun, TF.

by rbubp on Jul 7, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

just to note

all opinions are welcome here. ones that agree with the writers and ones that don’t.

personal attacks are not welcome ever. especially against me. I am very insecure.

djsm, i hope you return. you are as free to post your opinion and disagree with me as you are to leave and never come back.

by hawksdawgs on Jul 7, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got a little personal on him. Sorry, I thought he was out of line. Should have been more patient.

by rbubp on Jul 7, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i appreciate the gesture

i may totally disagree with you re mike bibby but i do respect you and will not personally attack you ever. just so the other guys would understand:

1) in past articles, i have noticed your negative comments about mike bibby and your lack of desire for the hawks to re-sign him; (and i strongly disagreed with them)
2) i was hoping he would play elsewhere next season so he can prove that his presence in atlanta made a difference;
3) kelly dwyer is a noted bibby -basher (pls read today’s BDL, mike may be many things but he is not below average). and if you agree with the things KD says, then how can you be glad that mike is staying with the hawks?

i say these things from the point of view of a female fan.

by djsm on Jul 7, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

But this is ridiculous.

You’ll have to cite where Drew was contending Bibby should not be re-signed, and even if he did make that statement, you can look up the past year’s blogs and note that pretty much everyone on this forum believes Bibby was a major contributor last year.

Drew was not agreeing with Dwyer, he was asking rhetorical questions addressing Dwyer’s criticism. This is where the “reading” part comes in. I mean, you read this, right?

“He is a six million dollar tutor who makes your star player happy and can hit three pointers like some people hit free throws. That is not a bad deal.

The signing of Bibby does not make the Hawks back court great, but at least for one year, it does make it good. And at some point, you have to trust the players you draft will develop, and in that sense, Mike Bibby is the rare guy that can buy a team time, make the other Hawks feel confident, and bridge the position for the future."

And if you think that Dwyer is wrong about Bibby’s defense, well, watch the Cleveland series again. We love Bibby but we accept his flaws.

by rbubp on Jul 7, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks, drew

i just want to say goodbye on a positive note. no need for things to get out of hand. we are cheering for the same team, remember?

by djsm on Jul 8, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wha?

So you “wished with all of your heart” for Bibby to go to another team because you like him so much and wanted him to prove how valuable he is to the franchise? You are a Bibby fan, not a Hawks fan. No true fan of any team wishes bad upon it.

Let's push this bird out of the nest.

by Yes I Am A Hawks Fan on Jul 8, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty much resigned to the Hawks not being serious championship contenders with this core. There’s just been too many blown high draft picks in the past 3-4 years to recover from without having drafted a true superstar. Bibby should at least keep the team where it has been: in the playoffs. A 2 year deal would have been better, but I can fully understand Mike not going for that. Since Sund was going to keep Woodson around for at least one more year, there wasn’t any point in signing a different free agent PG who excelled at going to the basket. Mike will again give us lots of clutch 3s and decent assists and rebounds with no defense. I’ll take it and another trip or three to the second round.

by redwards95 on Jul 7, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I wanted him back, but

I wanted him back but for 3 yr 15 million. Im cool with this though, give or take 1 mill a year is what I usually think. It get’s interesting from here. I really would like to see Flip and Zaza back just have to wait things out I guess. Im kinda like you HawksDawg when it comes to that haircut thing.

by Hawks-Semi Fan on Jul 7, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

2 years 12mil would have been better

But whatever. With the Crawford signing, there’s no way Teague see’s the court under Woodson, and I would much rather have Bibby running the point than Crawford or JJ. Since it’s clear that this team has no desire to plan for the future and Woodson is only concerned with the currect season at hand, this signing makes the most sense to get the most wins possible for 08-09.

As for the Bibby lovers, I think most would agree that most here try to be as objective as they can when it comes to assessing each players value to the team. We have to not only consider, but also note both the positives and the negatives. In Bibby case, that means that while noting that he most definitely runs the Woody offense and has a great outside shot, he also is a very inconsitent streaky shooter and is the worst on-the-ball defender (probably the worst overall defender) in the league.

As I mentioned already though, Bibby is the right player and perfect option to run the Woody Offense. But one can’t simply ignore his faults because they have a crush on him or went to high school with him or whatever it is.

by Jesse28 on Jul 8, 2009 7:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I feel...

like Mike Bibby brings (as stated, somewhat) a very temporary fix/security to the Hawks franchise… It’s almost like duck-tape on a broken bat…. One day… whether 2 weeks from now… or 2 years from now… If you keep using that bat, it’s gonna break. And we’re looking at allot of money spent on temporary repairs here…

I will admit I am biased against everyone but like 3 people that have anything to do with the Hawks… I’m with Joe Johnson all day… Josh Smith (although I too will ridicule him, I still have his back) all day…. Al Horford all day…

I wont be so bold to say I don’t have Mike’s back, but I do feel like he has let us down in some critical moments, and his defense is usually MIA… So I’m skeptical on whether or not that will ever change.

I say all that to say… 3 years??? I’d have give em 2….

Joe is a Beast
Al is a Beast
Smoove is a MONSTER!

by Garrison Hayes on Jul 8, 2009 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Technically a good deal

Mike Bibby’s atheleticism has never been his strong point so i dont see his stats dropping off over the next 3 years. Incase you forgot, Nash won the MVP at 31 and 32 and Andre Miller played his best basket ball at 32,33. So 3 years is not a bad deal at all. As bad as Bibby is on defence putting him on the floor makes the team a lot better. I would have preferred a younger Point guard like Sesssions, but for $6m per year, I would take Bibby.

by dkrib on Jul 8, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, let's hope for growth.

If this roster allows us to get to the mid 50s in wins, and a EC finals appearance, it will be successful. Anything else will be a disappointment.

I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.

Elayne Boosler

by NaGaNole on Jul 8, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

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