If the Hawks do not draft at 19....
by hawksdawgs on Jun 21, 2009 11:26 PM EDT
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As the NBA draft approaches, it is not all mock drafts and fine wine. The Hawks have options. Roughly two and half years after his career expired, Speedy Claxton's deal is finally following suit. With a point guard heavy draft, Acie Law is a possible moveable piece. Mo Evans is expiring as well. And the rights to Josh Childress hang in what is as close to NBA purgatory as one can get. The Hawks have needs and they have assets. The 19th pick is not a for gone conclusion. So if we are going to look up our 13th mock draft on our fourth different website, we can examine a few options of what the Hawks can do.
Trade up
The most likely scenario here is to trade Acie Law and/or the right to Josh Childress and the 19th pick to move into the lottery.
- Positives
- If the Hawks are trying to get a point guard in the draft, they have a great opportunity to get the guy they want and not the guy that falls to them.
- The Hawks get something in return for Childress.
- The Hawks make a clean break from Acie Law and create a new line of succession at the point guard position.
- Negatives
- When so many holes exist, the move demands the Hawks draft a point guard.
- The Hawks trade a previous 12th and 19th for what is probably no higher than 8th. Fuzzy math at best. Bad math at worst.
- A bust with this pick is much worst than a bust back in 2007.
Trade down
The most likely scenario here is if the point guard the Hawks target is not likely to be take in the next few picks or they target a player like Wayne Ellington and think they can get him later.
- Positives
- Through free agency or the draft the Hawks need a back up center, back up two guard, starting point guard, and depth in the 3 / 4 area. What I am saying is the Hawks need a lot. If Rick Sund is not impressed with anyone at 19, they could move down and acquire more picks or a veteran contributor.
- Negatives
- The Hawks need contributors now, the further down they trade, the less likely they are to find a player who will immediately see the floor.
- Fan do not like trading down to the 26th pick in the draft.
Package the pick for a proven player
Package the pick with one or more of the assets mentioned to acquire a proven point guard that has finished at the rim in a real, live game before.
- Positives
- The Hawks know what they are getting.
- A need will be filled.
- Negatives
- You do not get a player far and away better than another team thinks they can draft with your pick. Unless that player is really expensive, and the Hawks are not going to trade for someone really expensive.
- If drafts were to be redrafted, many a 19th pick and above would go in the lottery.
Sell the pick
- I will cry. Period.
If the Hawks do not draft at 19, what do you want them to do?
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Slim pickin's
Let’s be honest, this draft leaves much to be desired. If the Hawks are going to make a splash this off-season, it’s going to have to be through free agency. I think trading up is a bad idea unless it involves trading the rights to Childress, who certainly will never wear a Hawks uniform again. The best we can do is pick the best available and hope we land a sleeper.
Let's push this bird out of the nest.
by Yes I Am A Hawks Fan on Jun 22, 2009 12:54 AM EDT reply actions
move up
The Hawks have a lot of tradeable pieces (Childress, Claxton, Evans, Law, Anderson), so if they think there’s a sure thing PG they’d like who won’t be around at 19, I’d say go for it and move up. From the mock drafts I’ve seen, they wouldn’t need to go up into the lottery to draft a very good PG. Moving up to something like 12 or 13 should get it done. The key thing though is to make sure you take a PG who Woodson will feel comfortable starting. This means somebody who’s a good shooter rather than a slasher. You could even take a SG or combo guard. Worst case scenario that guard replaces Flip off the bench and is insurance if the Hawks don’t re-sign Joe and you sign or trade for a veteran to start at point. The other option I like is packaging the 19th pick with a bunch of other parts to trade for an impact veteran to take the place of Bibby, Marvin, Zaza, or Flip.
You're Over-analyzing
It’s the HAWKS. Since when have they ever drafted well? Even when they got Dominique via trade with Utah, didn’t that come from John Drew, which ultimately came from Pistol Pete? I mean, it goes way, waaay back.
The best I can recall since has been Jason Terry and the Hawks gave him away a few years later.
It’s the Hawks — the NBA’s Washington Generals. Only a front office revolution may change things.
make a deal with somebody who has an earlier pick
Stay at 19 there will be somebody there worth taking. Maynor, Ellington, Collison.
Trade Acie for another 1st rd pick
Can't trade Chilz "rights"
He is like any other RFA—he either has to sign with us, or sign with someone else.
Not much to trade
There is a mock going on over on the Blazer’s blog, Blazersedge. Lots of talk and a decent number of trades are happening, but NOBODY is interested in anything Atlanta has to offer. I’m not sure the real world is much different.
Right now, I’m leaning towards Mullens, since that fits Sund’s draft pattern. However, that depends on which PG’s are still available.
I’ve also got a loose offer from San Antonio for the rights to Tiago Splitter for the pick. That doesn’t fit the win-now potential of this team, but it could be a big upgrade (for a low price) to Josh Smith for the next season.
I’m open to hearing your thoughts.
btw- my icon is a temporary one during this mock draft
Currently playing the role of the Atlanta Hawks GM in the Blazersedge.com 2009 NBA Mock Draft.
Acie and 19th
I would offer this package if Flynn magically drops pass Milwaukee I would jump up to get him, other than that stay at 19 and hope for Teague, Lawson, Maynor, or James Johnson to fall. All of the 4 mentioned players have been mentioned as possible lottery picks at one time since the season was over, so there is value. I also like Thorton, Hansborough, and Ellington for depth but non really offers an outstanding value at 19 because we ccan get them later.
by Hawks-Semi Fan on Jun 22, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
With the depth at PG in this draft
I think the Hawks can afford to stand pat. Unless Flynn or Curry drop beyond their expected places, it’d be pointless to move up to draft a player that’s only marginally better than one that can be had at 19th. Maynor, Lawson, and Teague are not that much worse than Curry, Flynn, and Evans. The only one who’s a cut above is Rubio, which is why he’s virtually guaranteed a top 5 selection. Every other PG prospect has the same chance to boom or bust as his counterparts
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
good point
not much difference between the PG’s in the draft except for Curry and Rubio. But getting another pick would be good. A late first round and a 2nd round can help us fortify the bench. We can pass on Mullens and get a decent 7ftr in the 2nd rd ..G Siler.
Stay at 19 take a PG and make a pkg with Acie to get more picks
Rubio
I think the Hawks ought to go for all the marbles and do what it takes to get Rubio. I think he’s a can’t-miss stud, the only one in the draft along with Blake Griffin. He can’t shoot, you say? Neither can Tony Parker, and Rubio is TP all over again, and he’s only 19. Give him a few years; I bet he learns to shoot. As far as everything else, he’s already better at it than 90% of NBA PGs.
Sund could send a clear message to Woody by doing this, too. Diversify the offense or you’re out the door. (And maybe you’re out the door anyway just ’cause you suck.)
ready to win in 2yrs
The Hawks can turn the corner this summer with the right moves. If done right this team can challenge for the East. We need one more stud vet. Take a PG don’t mortgage the team for Rubio. Ellington, Maynor, Lawson, Collison, etc whoever is there will be okay. But FA’s are going to be the key.
And Sund has to sign Bibby for his leadership, and shooting
I've got a Feeling
We are not going to draft a point guard, even though, it makes no sense in this point guard heavy draft. Atleast, move up and take Patty Mills in the 2nd round. I will be badly disappointed if we dont get a PG.
by Hawks-Semi Fan on Jun 23, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions
a bust at 19, its okay
I don’t think if we get a so-called bust at 19 this yr it will hurt. The key to winning is going to be FA’s anyway. But either way the 19th pick won’t be a total flop ……. No Olawakandi. We will at least get a good role player. They say the draft is weak, but I see 7-8 PG/SG who are going to be really good players (not counting Rubio cause I didn’t see him play).
Hopefully one will fall down to us.
Josh Smith
I would try and package Smith and the 19th for Boozer and maybe another pick. Or I wouldnt mind getting Rondo and Big Baby for the same thing. I love the HAwks but SMith to me will never be the pernial all star most of us hoped for. I just dont see the desire to be great in him. Let Bbiby go to. Too much money. Try and get Rondo and pay him the same thing Bibby would want. You would get a young player who improves every year and is a tripple double waiting to happen. Also get a new coach. The HAwks dont respect Woodson as was appaerent when I went to a Hawks game in February. I hope I am wrong about the things I think and they continue to soar, but an average team is whats on the roster now. Nothing more.
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