Loser Dots
by hawksdawgs on May 9, 2009 11:19 PM EDT
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- LeBron is really good.
- The Hawks and our fans are going to complain about their the refs, and sometimes that is justified. And when you lose by more than ten, it simply is not. You just look like you lost your composure in a game you were going to lose anyway. What I am saying is lose by two so I can feel justified in my anger toward the refs.
- Zaza unless you are getting techincals standing up to fake bullies like Kevin Garnett, please do not get techincals.
- Superstars get calls but is there a better reverse of the superstar call than in Zaza's double technical. One was deserved for sure, but two? I would love to see LeBron get double techincals for that. I am not saying it wouldn't happen, it is just he would have to kill someone in the process.
- In the fourth quarter, Josh Smith went to trap LeBron James. A novel idea except that Lebron was 40 feet from the basket and Josh ran at him from 20 feet away. Don't worry Mo Williams hit a three soon after.
- At least I feel good about my keys to the game, when the Hawks had hot Flip and a fast pace they were at their best. But who isn't really?
- Seriously Zaza?
- Think of a pet peeve you have about the Hawks or an individual player.....it happened tonight didn't it?
- Marvin and Al are shells of their normal selves. In a series full of sadness, that might be the saddest of all. Years from now if I need a good cry, I may have something to rival Mr. Holand's Opus in these three games.
- For a two minute period in the fourth quarter, Joe Johnson was fighting mad. Joe Johnson fighting mad owns. I hope Delonte West gets Joe mad earlier and for longer periods of time on Monday.
- Maybe I should start heckling Joe.
- Some court side fans were heckling LeBron the whole second half. James responded with some words of descent. And since he was actually playing in the game, LeBron also used some pretty impressive non verbal communication.
- How bad did the Hawks fall apart/give up/have poor coaching/ get out played, they were up one in the third quarter and mid way through the fourth I still had found time to look up in great detail the rules regarding the restricted area, whether Delonte West has herpes, and why I should dislike Mo Williams based on his college career. (ed. note: that is a birth mark on Delonte's mouth.)
- The Hawks do not even know how to tip the ball correctly during rebounds.
- Mike Woodson...you are not invited to my next birthday party. And I will have reasons why in the recap, and you will not like them.
- Ok fine Woodson, here is a preview: "you suck."
Go Hawks.
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Mixed emotions
I have ’em. Have had them all season, really. This is a frustrating team, one that seems limited by its coach and/or its cadre of maddening semi-competing players. No one really thought the Hawks would win this series, but I have to say that I am in a way glad that they are getting totally outclassed, because there will be nowhere for any of them to hide. And if Sund wants to get rid of Woody, this gives him all the ammunition he needs, in my opinion.
Someone needs to get in here and kick Josh Smith square in his little-baby ass. Whoever that is needs to have a game plan for the rest of the team too, including the quasi-leader super-huge all-star guy that is stacking up so well in these playoffs.
the hawks need a leader, no doubt
often joe has the game and not the bark and Horford has the bark and is not allowed to grow into the game, but to be a contender, you need someone who has both. period.
josh of course is just an enigma, and i plan to address that in the recap. i find it hard not to connect his maddening array of basketball decisions and skills back to woodson.
But you cannot think JS is only a product of Woody. He’s been an NBA player for five years now. I have not been able to watch much of this series, but the moment where LeBron went uncontested down the lane for a slam in the 3rd quarter of game 2 with the Hawks down 15 or so, still in the game, says it all for me. Who was in the lane, saw the King coming, and barely moved, even making no effort to even foul him at all, much less foul hard or block his shot or play any actual defense or otherwise exhibit anything other than the most causal attitude possible? Who else could it have been? (Of course, if that’s me, I take him out of the game immediately.)
I got my big phat contract last year. What do I have to play for, again? Maybe I’ll get a rebound tonight, maybe I won’t, we’ll see.
Wow...
Almost doesn’t count. The Hawks played a solid 2 quarters and 9 minutes of basketball. You simply can’t go on ten minute scoring drought and expect to win against Cleveland. And I kept saying before the game that somebody should break LeBron’s but I wholeheartedly believe that if he played with no arms tonight, he still would have been the best player on the floor. I mean his photo just smiled at me when I looked up “unstoppable” in the dictionary. And Joe…I’m going down to Philips Arena dressed in my Delonte West costume on Monday just to kick his ass. When he got pissed off, it was fucking great. I mean damn. If he played like that all game. He didn’t just come down and score…he pulled up in Delonte’s face and yelled at him, took him to the rim. I was just thinking in my head, “What kind of superstar avgs 20+ a game regular season but fails to show up playoff time?” Josh…I don’t even know what to say. My favorite part of watching him tonight was watching him and LeBron line up at half court for the jump ball. Zaza…you are justified for the simple fact that you work harder than anyone else. You are okay in my book. Next time, just deck LeBron on your way out so maybe the Hawks stand a chance. Flip…if only Joe played with your aggressiveness. Great showing tonight. Bibby…if I see you play some lock down defense one time on anyone (I feel like a JV bench riding center could drive the lane on you), you never have to score again. I don’t care if you make Z lose his dribble at the top and he calls timeout. Just defend someone. Al and Marvin…Great effort. I know I always trash Marvin (and don’t get me wrong, I still think we should have gotten Chris Paul) but that is what i think of when I think of the Hawks. Heart. Fuck highlights, I want that passion that the Hawks have played with since last year’s playoffs. I want it back and Marvin and Al brought it tonight. And I have tried not to trash Woodson because I think that he is always learning something new about the Hawks. If he’s not yelling at a ref or stating some obvious fact (We have to play defense…thanks Einstein. What kind of defense?), he is standing on the sideline with a Wade Phillips-like expression on his face. But he pushed me over the edge in this series. He is just the the most confused angry coach on the sideline. Draw up a play. I can honestly state that I have never heard during that “Wired” where they listen to a coach’s mic him say anything that I couldn’t have said. As a player, you know that in order to score points, the ball must go in the basket. You know that if the other team is up and you want to catch up, not only do you have to score but you have to get a defensive stop. Coach, what do we do about LeBron? Why does Josh keep shooting instead of playing down low? Why does Bibby watch people run past him into the lane? Why does Flip shoot from half-court for buzzer beaters instead of Joe? Why has LeBron literally run through the lane untouched at least every game of this series without being hit hard? Why do you look just as scared as we do? You’re not even on the court. LeBron’s not dunking on you. You coach the team and stop pulling off crazy antics like shaving your head just because we get to get beat by Boston or worrying about what Jon Barry has to say. Worry about how to stop LeBron because Jon Barry did not torch your team tonight.
2K9
I enjoy the Hawks much more on 2K9. Their offensive movement and sets looked really good at times tonite though. This team just lost a couple thousand season ticket holders. The good to this is there has to be changes and the changes have to come to the core. I really would like to see Joe play 2nd fiddle. Marvin Williams, Acie Law, and a Future 1st rd pick could get someone just as good or better than Joe. Unfortunately, some would rather have Hortford, Law and a Future 1st which I would not part with so easily.
The officiating was indeed a joke as it is in all the other series. The NBA needs to do something so foul calling isn’t so completely arbitrary. Anyway for 3 1/2 quarters the Hawks competed beyond my expectations. Maybe if they were fully healthy they could have made this a fake competitive series like against Boston last year. In the end there was just too much Lebron and the Hawks didn’t have the talent, health, or coaching to keep up. Oh well. That’s about what we all expected.
Refs/media
Guys, let’s give the Cleve fans some slack. Being ignored/downplayed by the media has been a way of life for decades. Seeing ref favoritism towards league/TV “superstars” has been shoved up our collective cloacas forever—see Michael Jordan, Derek Jeeda, John Elway. They’ve only known it from the other side of the table, so let ‘em enjoy!
BTW, currently researching LeBron’s bio to see if his middle name is “Tecumseh!”
Lebron Is Good, He Doesn't Need Help, but he gets it
Ive never cared for his antics and expressions as a person. He cant touch Kobe and neither can the Cavs. Lakers in 6.
by Hawks-Semi Fan on May 10, 2009 10:30 AM EDT reply actions
i would take lebron first in any draft of the whole league for the next five years.
that includes the mlb and nfl drafts.
Most people thought Wade could beat the Hawks alone
What do most people have to do with this. Why cant people see that most people are totally lost that’s why Las Vegas bookmakers continue to strive. The Lakers are way better than Cleveland and neither team is really physical. So, the Lakers want have to deal with what they had to go through against the Celts last year. Easy victory if Lakers can get through.
by Hawks-Semi Fan on May 11, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Cavs are the team of destiny this year
They’ll win Conference finals in 5, Finals in 5
Look at how Kobe and Co. are getting blown out by Houston. The Cavs just don’t have those off nights.
2-0
Lakers record vs the Cavs this year
If Kobe was allowed to get away with crabdribbling, I’m sure he’d be far more dynamic then Bron even at the age he is now.
Cavs are overrated
They cant beat the Lakers in a 7 game series.
They arent overrated
Are you actually WATCHING the games?!?
However, that being said, I’m not punching their ticket to a championship just yet…or even to the finals. They SHOULD get there…but the Lakers will be a very tough matchup for them if they make it too…which isn’t guaranteed EITHER. They’re struggling against the Yao-less Rockets, and they’ll have a VERY tough Nuggets team rested and waiting for them.
They are overrated
When he has a series against another superstar in which the refs feel is a superstar the calls will even out. Then it will be obvious that Mo Williams is no better than Fisher, Kobe will dominant his position, so will Lebron, but the key is Odom, Gasol, and Bynum are lightyears in front of anything Cleveland can do on the front line.
seriously?
have you seen what AARON BROOKS has been doing to fisher and the rest of the PG scum in LA? that team ALL YEAR hasn’t been able to defend ANY PG, so stop with that nonsense.
and bynum sure is great, what with his 11:37, 2 rebounds, 1 turnover, 1 blocked attempt, 0 blocks, 3 fouls, 0 assists, 0 point stat line from yesterday against a yao-less rockets team and being guarded by 6-6 chuck hayes and 6-9 louis scola. he’s 2000 shaq all over again i tell you (/sarcasm)!!!
you do watch these games, right?
Dude Please
Basketball is about matchups and the Cavs dont match up well with the Lakers, but believe what you wish.
by Hawks-Semi Fan on May 11, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
Well, on that I agree...
They do NOT matchup well with the Lakers, and if a Cavs/Lakers finals comes about…I would have to give the Lakers a slight advantage. Even so, home court advantage and the level of play (at this time mind you), could mitigate this factor and i would expect a very hotly contested series no matter what the final result
by johnnyphoenix on May 11, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Besides
Like I mentioned before…all this talk of ‘finals’ is WAAAY premature. I won’t really begin thinking about that until it HAPPENS, because once again, counting out the Magic/Celtics and (most likely Nuggets) really isn’t smart. Even THIS series isn’t over yet, and the Rockets series definitely is FAR from over. Last I heard you have to win FOUR games, not three. I’ll begin thinking about all those other teams once the Hawks are closed out, which, while it seems like a foregone conclusion, they are NOT.
Yeah right...
If you think the Hawks aren’t closed out closed out, I will need you to pee in this cup! Lebron is a man among boys. Don’t get me wrong, I love the Hawks, but let’s be real…
And Kobe is still a snitch…
"If I disagree with you, it's because you are wrong..."
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