State of the Hawks point guard

by hawksdawgs on May 20, 2009 11:07 AM EDT Comment 54 comments

Lots to think about.

The Hawks point guard situation is the most convoluted of the five positions. I do not really know what the Hawks have, what they want, or what they need. So let the baseless speculation begin.

A look back

If you want to know what you are going to get from Mike Bibby, check the stats from the last year. 91% of his shots were jumpers. 0% were dunks. He dished out five assists and shot a career third best from behind the arc at 39%. Bibby wanted to take advantage of his hot stroke because of his 12.4 shots a game, 42% came from three point land.

So what you know you are getting is a guy that can distribute the ball but is not a distributer. He is a vocal leader on the court, but since the captain only allows himself three primal screams per 82 games, it is a role easily occupied. He is a man who will hit the open three and drill a jumper but scoffs at layup line in practice and downright will perform sit ins on the court before trying one in a game.

Oh, and he plays bad defense.

Acie Law played really well against the Hornets one game. He gave Chris Paul a good game on the butt in the middle of the second quarter. The one game I remember him starting, the Hawks lost to the Clippers by about 62 points. In the end, he played in one less game this year compared to his rookie season and averaged a full five minutes less on the court per game.

He showed a glimmer of hope in his three point shooting, but in the end, Acie barely ever got time with the first team and played a majority of his minutes in mop up duty.

At this point, I have no idea if Acie could be a starter in the league, a serviceable back up, or a complete bust. Let's just hope some of those answers come in practice because they certainly were not answered during the 82 game season.

Speedy Claxton is not getting a recap.

A look forward

Mike Bibby is an unrestricted free agent. Acie Law has one year left on his deal before he has restricted status, and Speedy Claxton is a 6 million dollar hit to the cap for a final year.

Mike Bibby certainly is not getting better, but if he stayed healthy and consistent, a two year deal at around five or six million dollars seems reasonable. I expect Bibby to want three years and more money so that could be a difficult negotiation.

In the end, I struggle to see how Bibby helps the Hawks that much in the short term that he would be worth jeopardizing the long term with a three year deal.

There are a lot of guys in the league that can hit the three, dish out four or five assists, and not play defense. Leadership and the love fest Joe Johnson has with him are the two intangibles that might be hard to replace.

At the same time, I would be very nervous handing over the reigns to Acie Law, but what eases my nerves/frustrates me beyond belief is that I could never see Woodson doing it. The coach has made no effort to develop him as a player, and therefore placing Acie in the starting lineup would only highlight that Woodson either has no long term vision for this team, has no idea how to develop a bench, and/or holds little control as to the make up of this team.

The good news is this draft is deep with supposed first round talent. Picking at 19 means that the Hawks sit in the realm where some of that talent will turn out to be an illusion, but with some luck and good scouting, a starter could easily be there for the taking. Chad Ford has a staggering 11 point guards going in the first round. Granted a few of those are tweeners like Step Curry, but even 7 pure point guards is a lot. The value the Hawks could get at 19 at this position may be the highest it has been in years.

Jarret Jack and Raymond Felton are the two most intriguing free agent point guards, but they are both restricted. Jack would seem the easiest and most willing to be pried away, but he is not a true point guard.

Final thoughts

It is my belief that unless the Hawks stake their point guard future on a free agent not named Mike Bibby, they have to draft one in the first round. That either means they then trade Acie Law and let the rookie learn under Bibby for two years, or they allow Acie and the rookie battle for the starting job and make a decision next summer on the direction they plan to go.

I assume many of you disagree. Good thing there is a comment section.

Go Hawks!

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Bibby's asking price

will determine whether or not he returns. He is atrocious on defense, but the affect he’s had on this team offensively can’t really be denied. When you think about all of the impending contract negotiations concerning half of the roster (the half that matters) it’s scary to think about what this team may or may not be in the near future. I’m not sure what kind of moves Rick Sund will make and the uncertainty is unnerving.

by Co Co on May 20, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He's Good and Great and Poor and fair , Although he led us to two playoffs with a Lot of Help.

I think he helped Joe Johnson and The team; This Year A slightly off year for Joe who was Great and carried the team But is getting Tired.
Bibby said if Hawks signed him (Bibby) Last 5 or ten years, he would be Expensive and he was and still is.But Bibby accelerated the Team WITH his Stats and experience to the Playoffs.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 3, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

For Point Guard Perhaps Get a Point Guard at free Agency and 1st Round Pick,

Chose Either Tony Parker,Hedo Turkuglu, Ben Gordon, Kobe Bryant (but he’s probably out of Ballpark Figure), The others Might be Surpisingy Affordable.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 11, 2009 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anthony Parker is Okay, Though isn't Tony Parker, more o0f possibly good 3rd or 4th guard

Anthony Parker is good , But I like Mo Better.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 16, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bibby should Return as our Jason Terry and Mentor of Johnny Flynn

I don’t have a problem in this world with Bibby coming off the bench to play the Jason Terry role. I also seriously hope we can re-sign Flip and Zaza. Bibby, Flip, Evans, Zaza, and either Big Baby, Powe, B.Bass, or Gortac coming off the bench would be a big upgrade. Finally, we have the tools to get the point guard we need and want. I think it should be Flynn but I would be fine with Lawson, Maynor, or even Teague . If need be I would trade Acie Law or a future pick to move up and get the guy that I fall in love with.

by Hawks-Semi Fan on May 20, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

not sold on johnny flynn

but i do like your idea of trading acie to move up and get the exact guy you want. had not thought of that, but makes total sense.

by hawksdawgs on May 20, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What I’d like to see: Hawks trade some of their expiring contracts (Claxton), restricted free agents (Childress), Acie Law, and/or their 1st round pick to get a better draft pick and pick one of the better shooting point guards who can also play defense.

What I expect to see: Bibby will be resigned. Acie will spend another year buried on the bench behind some budget backup free agent PG and the Hawks will trade him in 2010 never having made an effort to find out if he’s any good.

by redwards95 on May 20, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Don't trade any Draft Picks.

Don’t trade any Draft Picks That was why earlier it was impossible to replace free Agents.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 3, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Problem

is that under Woody’s offensive system we need a PG that can hit the open shot and pass it to Joe. Law is more of a slash and kick PG, so he never gets anytime. Out of the draft, I think Curry would actually fit Woody’s offensive system to a T. He’s a younger Bibby who can play a little bit of D. He can nail jumpers and can pass a bit too. Unfortunately he’s not going to make it to 19.
There are a good amount of slash and kick PGs out there, but Woody just wouldn’t play them. I would love to sign Andre Miller and have him push the tempo with our athletic big men and have him tutor Law, but that would too much sense for Mike “I’m going to shove this square peg into this round hole” Woodson.
Just the thought of him getting extended give me heartburn.

by danielduello on May 20, 2009 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hawks would have to move up to get curry i think

but as a davidson grad, just the thought of him in a hawks uniform makes me cry tears of joy.

although i can say, I don’t think he is ready to start in the nba at point guard. and i am as bias as they come in regards to steph.

by hawksdawgs on May 20, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Defense! Defense!

We need a PG who can be on the court (make the 3s, you fool) and DEFEND. Steph Curry won’t be able to guard much of anyone, I don’t think. In this draft, the guy who makes threes, a necessity on the Woodson offense (emphasis on the first syllable), and also plays on the ball defense is Toney Douglas from Florida State.

by rbubp on May 21, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Stephen Curry Will be Long Gone

Stephen Curry Will be Long Gone.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 2, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How About...

What about Allen Iverson? Joe seems to love to pass, and Iverson can play point. If we can get him for 2 years at a reasonable price, I would take him over Bibby any day!!!!

"If I disagree with you, it's because you are wrong..."

by Tybeaux on May 20, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The team’s biggest problem on offense is too much 1v1 and iso plays. Adding Iverson would only make that worse. Also Woody can barely handle J. Smoothe. How would he handle Josh AND AI? Finally AI wasn’t able to get it done with Carmello in Denver, so there’s no little reason to think he could do better in Atlanta with Joe Johnson.

by redwards95 on May 21, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bibby = Eddie House

A very expensive House at that.
Felton is being shopped by the bobcats.. Maybe we trade our 1st round pick for him

http://www.49ersboard.blogspot.com

by supraman on May 20, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

As a completely unbiased observer,

Ok, just ignore the Jacket icon, and pretend I am actually unbiased, but I like Jarret Jack, I think he would give you the same qualities as Bibby, offensively, with added athleticism, length, and youth, and better D.

by RamblininAlb on May 20, 2009 6:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

pkg Acie and try to make a deal with OK

mock drafts have them taking Thabeet a legit 7ftr. Let’s do it, pkg Acie, or Zaza, and 19th pick. For Thabeet. OK would have an Acie/Durant combo and then let’s try to get Jack or Felton and Mikki More. Starting line up: Bibby, Joe, Josh, Al, Thabeet
We need a good size defending center more than we need a point. We run so much we don’t have to have a traditional point to setup our offense. Maybe even Iverson if we lose Bibby, as long as we get some size to replace Zaza

by Cmart34 on May 21, 2009 12:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Thoughts

First, Jarret Jack is a true PG. That’s the only position he has played since high school, so I’m not exactly sure where you are getting that opinion from. If you are looking for a cheaper and better option at the 1, then Jack would fill those needs perfectly. However, that still leaves that question of what to do with Law. If we go after any PG currently in the league, you are effectively benching Law for another year because Woodson WILL NOT play him even as a backup. If you have any interest in Law, then you have to force Woodsons hand, not give him options.

Personally, I think we have to keep Zaza and possibly Murray, although I think Murray will regress back to his mean given that he was playing at a career high level this past season. Maybe you work some form of sign and trade with both Bibby and Evans to either get some additional depth or move up in the draft. Maybe you do the same with Flip since his value is high right now, but I think we have to keep him for depth at the 2. This forces Woodson to play Law at the 1 as the starter and we can draft the PG we are looking for in the future, giving Law a full year to prove his worth while at the same time rotating him with the rookie. Sure, it would hamper us some against the elite teams, but it’s not like we aren’t going to struggle with those teams anyways.

This scenario then leaves us with the question at the 5. Currently we are using Horford, who is a 4, as our big guy, and while it has worked there still is a lot left to be desired from that position. If we go after a big, then we have to move Horford to the 4 and rotate him with Smith, plus it’s not like Woodson is ever going to run a post-based offense. I don’t see Smith as anything other than a 4 because the guy has no range whatsoever and he is best suited to sticking around the basket, so who starts and who comes off the bench? I would say Smith starts and Horford comes off the bench.

The problem with the above is that we can’t do both, or at least I don’t think we can shoot for both a PG and a C reasonably. We either need to move up and get our PG of the future if we don’t believe Law is the one, or we need to move up and go after our C of the future, but not both. If I had to choose, I would go with the former of the two and leave Horford playing the 5. So basically it would go something like this:

Starters – 1:Law, 2:JJ, 3:Williams, 4:Smith, 5:Horford
Bench – 1:Draft pick, 2:Murray/Gardner, 3:Hunter/Childress? 4:Jones/Hunter, 5:Zaza

Your PG pick could be Toney Douglas or Rubio or someone between depending on what kind of magic you can work to move up through sign-and-trades or giving up next years 1st rd pick or swapping this years 1st rd pick. I highly doubt our ownership group will do anything to get Childress back, but I threw him in there anyways. The same goes with Anderson, I just don’t have any clue how he fits into this picture. I don’t necassarily think that Zaza could not start, I just think he’s better off the bench because he likes fouls as much as he likes Armani. So, you could start him at the 5 and use Horford off the bench depending on match-ups, but that’s assuming Woodson even knows what a match-up is, and I surely don’t.

I’m actually feel bad about anyone we draft because if given the option, Woodson will not play them. Sund has to force his hand, he has to give Woodson no options, otherwise every draft pick is wasted. Woodson thinks that experience trumps all and would rather lean on a vet who is a liability than play a young player who could provide some spark because he is afraid of changing direction, changing the gameplan to fit the situation, afraid of taking chances. He fits this ownership group, twins separated at birth, and I just don’t trust Sund to try and push the ownership group to allow him to do anything that would change this organization for the positive. And because of this, I don’t see any of the above happening.

"If Woody were Captain of the Titanic, he'd argue the boat sinking speaks to how effectively they put rich people in life boats and lock the poor folks below."
-jrauch commenting at Hoopinion on Woody's (non)logic in his post-game comments

by Jesse28 on May 21, 2009 9:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What if Acie can't do it??

There is obviously something wrong with Acie, because he doesn’t play. So Why give him the reigns on the team as PG. We need to go three deep at PG Bibby (present) Jack/Felton (very near future) Draft pick (starter in 3yr-4yr). Let Acie go to a west cost team who needs a young/slasher shooter for a draft pick. The western conf likes those type of guards

by Cmart34 on May 21, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree

I don’t think there is enough data to support the statement that something is wrong with Acie, while there is more than enough evidence to support the thought that Woodson refuses to develop young talent when given the option between playing a young guy versus playing a veteran. Woodson was criticized all of 07-08 for not playing the younger guys enough, with emphasis on Acie Law. He then stated in the off season that he didn’t do a good job helping to develop Acie and the others and would change that by playing them more often in the 08-09 season. The numbers have shown that Acie played in fewer games and played less overall minutes in 08-09 than in 07-08, so Woodson clearly has no intention whatsoever in playing Acie even when his production in limited minutes shows flashes of the talent that got him drafted in the first round to begin with, small sample size or not.

In my above scenario I did mention to use a heavy rotation between Acie as the 1st team PG with the newly appointed PG of the future. Between the two of them, someone should emerge as the bonafide starter and they should get more minutes as the season goes forward. I don’t agree with the thought of using a high 1st round pick on someone just to let them sit on the bench and waste away for 2-3 years. Why even make the damn pick if you are going to do that? Why not trade the extra pick for a high caliber player of need? Sund needs to either force Woodson’s hand now and make him play the players drafted or he needs to seriously have a sit down with Woodson and find out who the guy would play if he was in charge of drafting them, because the evidence so far tells me that Woodson either has no part in the drafting process or he just doesn’t care and is going to do what he wants to do regardless.

by Jesse28 on May 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Acie Law was an All- Star With Good Stats Better than some in this years Draft.

Acie Law was an All-Star in his Conferance, and had Good Stats.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 3, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ben Gordon, Jarrett Jack, Ramon Sessions All Good

Ben Gordon, Jarrett Jack, Ramon Sessions, All good;
Although So are Bibby, Murray.
I still Think for the money It would be hard to beat Gordon.
Although Whether he was in Biby or Johnson side I dont remember. Good Players For SG;
Backup for Joe Johnson is Highly Debatable right now but names for , SG if Atlanta Gets More than 2 Draft Picks say 3 Jermaine Taylor, Lester Hudson, Josh Akognon, James Hardin, But Who Knows If They Could Beat Out Law or Murray, Possibly.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 2, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think many Rookies will beat out Jack But maybe on Other List may or Might Not, Whose the next Derrick Rose?

Whose The Next Derrick Rose?

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 2, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heres THe Stats Of O.J. Mayo and Derrick Rose Compared. Pro and College

NBA OJ MAYO Memphis 18.5 ppg ,82 GP 38.1 MPG 6.9 of 15.6 43.8% FG
                                                                                              1.8 of 4.6 3pt 38.4 % 3 pt
             3.8 rpg, 3.2apg 87.4%FT

Derrick Rose Chicago 16.8 ppg 3.9 rpg, 6.3 apg 7.1 of 14.9 47.5% FG
                                                                          .2 of .9 3 pt 22. 3 pt
                                                                          2.4 of 3.1 78.8FT
NCAA STATS
OJ Mayo USC 2007-8 20.7 ppg 4.5 reb, 3.3 Ast 36.8 Mpg
7.2 of 16.2 FG 44.2 %
2.7 of 6.5 40.9% 3 pt 71.2% FT

Derrick Rose 2007-8 Memphis 14.9 ppg ,5.2 of 10. 47.7% FG
29.2 mpg, 0.9 of b2.6 33.7%

NBA STATS:Chris Paul 22.8 ppg 5.5 ppg, 11.0 apg, 432 reb 861 ast
Deron Williams 19.4 ppg 2.9 rpg, 10.7 ast 195 reb, 725 ast.
Ben Gordon also has great stats as does a Healthy Dwayne Wade Like Last year.

Althgough many have Complained about Marvin Williams Atlanta Hawks Pick He has Been a Very Good Player at small Forward as well as other positions, He’s Very Youg Good and Getting Better.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 3, 2009 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Murray , Zacha, Williams Look Affordable , But Thety got a Raise in Playoffs which is Good.

If These or Bibby are Replaced They need to go over Salaries(I for one Don "t have ESPN NBA Insider News Don’t want to pay For a service that Not only lists Free agents but Salaries; Its a Great
Service with Things Atlant Management and Scouts ought to go over with Management inspite of
May 20-7 Or whenever Camp ; It looked Fair at Best. The People ionvited was not Best Players (BY Stats in College Basketball last year but possibly People Who may have watched the NCAA Tournament saw in Action.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 3, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jack Is a Restrcted Free Agent this year. Wait to next year.

Jack is a resticted Free agent Wait to Next Year.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 11, 2009 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

All of Above had better stats in college than even All- Conf- AllStar Acie Law

All Of Above had better College Stats than Acie Law who had Pretty Good Stats.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 16, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ramon Sessions

The Hawks should go after Ramon Sessions. He’s the biggest sleeper in the NBA. He’s better than Bibby, Jack or Felton plus he’s an unrestricted free agent and should cost less than those guys. When given an opportunity to play last year he was very good and when he finally took over as the starting point guard in January, he played like one of the top 5 point guards in the east. Against the Pistons, he had a 44 pt 12 assist game on 13-18 shooting then had a 15 pt 17 assist game 2 games later. He’d look great in a Hawks uniform

Check out his game to game stats:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4333/gamelog;_ylt=Agv.Vb6LjFems4OSzfylFzK3PaB4

by herschel4heisman on May 21, 2009 11:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Salim Stroudamire Didn't look Bad for Hawks I don't think he had 12 assists though in career.

I don’t think Salim had 12 Assists in his career for Atlanta Hawks, in a game.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 3, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

RAMON SESSION !!!

Thanks herschel4heisman !!. The Hawks should go after Session. He is a true point guard that can dish and play D. The bucks have invested money in Ridnour so I dont think they can keep Ramon.
Hawksdawgs..What do you think of Sessions??? This guy can average at least 8 to 10 assists on the Hawks team. He is a pass first point guard which the Hawks can use.

by dkrib on May 21, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yet another option

If the team is looking to find a replacement for Bibby while growing Law and/or another draft pick into the starting PG role. I definitely would roll him into the Jack and Felton option bucket.

by Jesse28 on May 21, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Keep Bibby, but if you don't try to get Ben Gordon.

Jack is Good If you Could Sign and trade you Might consider Murray for Jack.
I don’’t think I would take Teague over Hansborough or Calanthes.But Bibby is Good but expensive as well as Gordon Is good bordering on Great and trying To get expensive.

by Jeff Gibson on May 23, 2009 4:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ben Gordon shoots too much

He would take shots away from the team. He shoots way to much for me. On a team like the Bulls who doesn’t have a lot of options to score, but he can’t come to Atl taking shots Joe should be getting. I would trade Murray for Jack. I would also try to move up in the draft see if we can get to number 12 at least I think Maynor will be there or maybe Holiday.

by Cmart34 on May 23, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ben Gordon Does Not Shoot Too Much, He's a Seasoned Underpaid Guard, Who scores a lot of Points

Ben Gordon Doesn’t shoot too much, in 82 Gamews last year he 7.3 made for 16 att for 45.5%
Field Goal Percent. He shot 2.1 of 5.2 Three point Range for 41% From the 3 Point Line. He shot
86.4% FT , Had 3.5 Reb 3.5 Ast For 20.7 Points per game. He had 36.36 Minutes a game. He had a lot of Points Last year as well.
But If he doesn’t resign with Chicago I would love to see him in a Hawks uniform.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 2, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Calathes Looks Excellent VERY GOOD.

Great Stats for Florida.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 3, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe throw in Speedy, in a trade But i wouldn't If i was the Hawks Resign him

Speedy had a great summer camp last year, previously hadI think; 9 steals in a game before;
But at this point is too expensive for the team; it may be in best interest of team to trade him.

by Jeff Gibson on May 23, 2009 4:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Let's Throw in Excess Baggage For A Package Deal.

Let’s throw in Excessive Baggage for Package Deal; Anybody go a Second Pick?

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 3, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Unless he was only Signed to 2009 and Waive Him, Unlessd Someone weas interested in na Sign and trade Deal.

Yes, I would Waive Him, But if Offered a Pick in Sign And Trade Check it Out.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 3, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chicago Has 12 Players On Roster and Twelve in Stats They Need Possibly More Players.

4 for 1 deal?

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 3, 2009 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or 2 for 1 Ben Gordon I think is unrestricted.

2 For 1

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 3, 2009 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

JJ Has Peaked

Time to Trade JJ and Bibby for an up and comming star. JJ, Bibby and Flip shoot the most volume of shots. Their shooting percentage is around a dismal .440. We will never go to another level with these players and this style of basketball. They both came off of good years so their trade value will be good. I say stay young. We also need to resign Chills.

So now we need a 1 and 2 that will drive and kick with no iso. Good defense and ball rotation. Players who can pick and roll and hit the open man.

by RivBoatGambler on May 25, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

we can't trade JJ

Evarybody wanted to bash Joe in the playoffs, but keep in mind when a team played the hawks this year they geared up to stop Joe. look at how many times they doubled him out by the 3pt line. He couldn’t even get a clean look at the rim in the Cavs series. If we get someone who is quick and can drive and finish Joe would get better looks at the basket or he would get 15 asst per game. Josh can’t dribble good enough, and Marvin can’t finish strong. One of them has got to get better and maybe one has to go.

by Cmart34 on May 28, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If a Sign and Trade Deal is For Bibby; How about Ben Gordon Nba Office will tell you Its $15 Million for Bibby and Around $5.5 or 6.5 Million a year For Gordon So who Else Does Chicago Want To Throw in?

I hope you can read above Comment.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 3, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ben Gordon This Year Along With Other Players including Some Atlanta Hawks are UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Others including Atlanta Hawks are Unrestricted free Agents, It’s the restricted free agents you have To Double Check on anfd may not Sign if they Recieve a Better Offer From their own team.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 3, 2009 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope if Atlanta Hawks wanted to Trade and Sign Deal The NBA Office wouldn't Nix it But I don't know if Hawks are even Interested in Him.

I am just a Fan, of Hawks Discussing Upcoming Draft, Not many Magazines at newstands
concering NBA 2009 Draft and or Free agents, But Some NFL are Available.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 3, 2009 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Atlanta Hawks need To Sign The Unrestricted Free Agent to a NBA Atlanta Hawks Contract.

Sign Ben Gordon.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 16, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why draft another point guard?

Can anyone tell me why they think another rookie point guard will get any more of a chance than Acie Law has? If you look at some of the better games Acie had (i.e., ones where he was allowed to play at least over 10 minutes) you will see he was often rewarded with a DNP-coaches decision the very next game. This was going on even while Woodson is telling the press after the game how great it was for Acie to contribute. My point is this: Unless there is some big unknown secret, Acie’s lack of playing time is not based on his skill level. It is Woodson’s inability to separate short term goal of winning every game Hawks are in versus long term goal of planning for future by developing younger players. Even if Acie is traded for a “better” “more promising” point guard in the draft, why does anyone think that guy will get treated any different. If Bibby is not coming back, save the pick for another need and give Acie a chance.

by ththouston on Jun 2, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i thought something was wrong with him

That I can’t figure out he was great in college, so I just thought something was wrong with him. He wasn’t coachable or he just didn’t get “it” in practice. There were times when I would be like why doesn’t he play.???? On the Playstion 2K8 he starts and is almost unguardable…..I used to wonder about Salim too….he could score but his defense was terrible. But with Acie I thought I saw some potential….maybe Woody knows something we dont.

by Cmart34 on Jun 2, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, This Is a Fine Field of Point Guards Available This Year. First Pick should be PG

Yes This is a Great Selection for First Pick of Hawks to Chose:

1.) Stephen Curry -DAVIDSON 28.4 ppg 9.2 of 20.2 45.6% FG
3.8 of 9.9 38.5% 3 Pt
4.3 reb 5.8 ast
These as Kobe Bryant; may have earlier said, about differant NCAA players shoot enough. You have to shoot to make points.

2) David Holston CHICAGO ST 25.9 ppg 8.4 of 19.8 42.5% FG
4.6 of 12.3 37.2% 3 pt
3.7 reb 6.4 ast

3.) Eric Maynor VCU 22.4 ppg 7.3 of 15.9 46.1% FG
1.9 out of 5.6 34.5% 3pt
3.6 reb 6.4 ast

4) Ben Woodside N. DAKOTA ST 23 ppg 7.1 of 15.1 46.8% FG
                                                                            2.0 of 4.7 43.7% 3 pt
                                                                             3.2 reb 6.4 ast.

5.) Nick Calathes FLORIDA 22.4ppg 48.9% FG
                                                                    40.9 % 3 pt 71% FT
                                                                                    6.2 ast.
6.) Johnny Flynn SYRACUSE 17.3 ppg 45.6% FG 33.6% 3 Pt 77% FT
                                                   6.4 ast 2.9 reb

7.) Ty Lawson NORTH CAROLINA 15.9 ppg 5.1 OF 9.5 53.8% FG
46.73% 3pt 80.9% FT
6.5 ast

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 2, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Flynn and Lawson Beat Acie Laws College Stats But I am Not Sure I Know The Rest Of List Above Did.

They 2 were close or somewhere near his stats. The Other 5 all Exceeded him with Derick Rose and Mayo Stats.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 16, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Acie and Salim Both Had Talent But one at PG other at Shooting Guard, I thought Salim would be a Great Backup For Joe Johnson

BUt they had them both for Left Position Except in Joe Johnson’s injury Time. A very Good Backup.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 3, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bibby Plays Left Guard (PG?) Johnson Right Guard (SG?) Both had 5 Assists per game Last Year

Bibby Plays Left Guard Point guard I think ; Joe Johnson Plays Right Guard Shooting Guard? Both If The Whole team Returns Need Stars With Adequate Support in Reserve of these Key Players. Would Joe Johnson If He had A Player of a Ben Gordon On HIs left Flank or in reserve of Him Get Better and Score More Points if He Got To instead of Carrying a 38-48 Minute Load (if not in Overtime) be better with an occasional Time To rest on Bench ; Or Not? Probably would. I am Not knocking any of the players, I was just saying If, Atlanta gets two Choices Find out With trades Free agency and Draft, Find what roles need to be filled. Murray and (8)Vaugh Was sensational in What Fans were Expecting, Williams , Smith, Horford,(6 or 7) Zaza, were Good reserves, Jones, and Law I think Tied for 9 and 10; 10-12 or 10-14 were good Players who need to play more, Get More developed or get well after Injury. Gardner, Hunter Looked Good in NBDL (1-3 Games or 7-10 days) but
showed they have Talent, Speedy was injured, and Randolph Morris was good in college at Kentucky Could Shoot and almost 7 Foot tall. I think if you had sent him he would have done well in NBDL as well as others.

by Jeff Gibson on Jun 3, 2009 3:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs