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Playoff Preview and Game Thread #3: Atlanta Hawks @ Miami Heat

Atlanta Hawks 08-09 Playoff Game #3
  
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American Airlines Arena
April 25th, 2009, 6:30 PM
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Probable starters:
Mike Bibby PG Mario Chalmers
Joe Johnson SG Dwyane Wade
Marvin Williams SF James Jones
Josh Smith PF Udonis Haslem
Al Horford C Jermaine O'Neil

 

Hawks Injury Report: Acie's back is still injured. Still mixed reports on whether he is available to play.

Heat Injury Report: Luther Head is out.

Blogging With the Enemy: Penisula is Mightier

Predicted bane of the Hawks existence: Michael Beasley 

Predicted hero of the Hawks existence: Joe Johnson

Game Preview:

I feel like the series is tied 4-4 in a best of 15 series, and then I remember we have only seen two games. All this time in between games and we have analyzed enough for 8 games. So lets just get back to the basics.

First with three questions.

  1. Where is Marvin Williams? He has performed well, efficiently, and shown no outward sign of back problems. So....
  2. Will Flip Murray break out of his slump? With bench scoring swinging so far in favor of the Heat last game, hot Flip needs to show up in a big way. I am talking dirty, hot Flip.
  3. Will the can't miss a shot Heat show up again this series? I lean towards no, but if they do, the demeanor the Hawks have had on the road all season will have to change.

Second, three things to remember.

  1. On any given night, the Hawks can easily have the advantage at four of the five positions. And the one disadvantage is still our best player.
  2. The Hawks have won this year in Miami. 
  3. The Hawks only need one of these two games.

Finally, three keys to the game.

  1. Joe needs to have the kind of game offensively that forces Dwayne Wade to guard him and not rest while shadowing Mo Evans at the three point line.
  2. Horford and Josh dominate the boards and the paint. If Miami hits 93 three again, hats off.
  3. Run the offense. The Hawks seem to play a lot of one on one basketball because they feel they have the advantage. Working the clock and rotating the balls will get you easier shots and draw more fouls.

I am returning to the comments for a joyous look at the NFL draft, to find microscopic reasons to get frustrated with Dwyane Wade, and to rage hell fire over the lack of post opportunities for Al Horford. Join me for all this and more.

LET'S GO HAWKS!

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I hope they can get something for Marvin

I hope they can do a sign and trade for Marvin in the off-season. He has value but only on another team. Im tired of him. He is either injured or doesn’t step up way too often.

by Hawks-Semi Fan on Apr 25, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

all about the price for me.

but i agree you can’t pay marvin second option money (ala josh) since he has not proven he is that.

by hawksdawgs on Apr 25, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Completely disagree,

he’s the most important player in our team’s development. We can’t just go find another 6’9 power forward that’s as much of an all around player as he is. His development shooting the three this year shows he isn’t even close to reaching his ceiling. It would be stupid to let him go now.

by Buzzsaw on Apr 25, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

THought Josh was PF

I thought Josh was the PF? He atleast tries to get things done around the rim.

by Hawks-Semi Fan on Apr 25, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

1. mo evans pass on the break
2. wade you suck. that was the worst block i have ever seen.

by hawksdawgs on Apr 25, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

where is anyone?

where’s the d? where’s the ball movement? where’s the effort?

by dchawk on Apr 25, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

mo evans cannot guard wade

he was by him before the 3 point line.

by hawksdawgs on Apr 25, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions  

blowout...game over

DAMMIT…when josh smith starts chucking threes when we’re down 14, it’s over

by dchawk on Apr 25, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Not controlling the tempo

Hawks need to slow it down, they’re playing a little shocked and containing Wade

"Nas is like.." Sex to a nympho, but nothin sweet
I'm like beef, bustin heat through your windows
I'm like a street sweeper, greenleaf reaper
Like Greeks in Egypt, learnin somethin deep from they teachers"- Nasir Jones

Goals in Life:
1. Earn that Business School Degree
2. Marry Kristin Kreuk
3. Own the Orlando Magic before Age 40.

Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Apr 25, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

2-15? is that even possible?

i could shoot better with my eyes closed

by dchawk on Apr 25, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

so much time

the hawks need to run their offense. sadly i am not sure woodson knows this.

by hawksdawgs on Apr 25, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions  

considering joe is a better shooter than wade

he needs to take a page out of wade’s playbook and take want the defense gives him.

by hawksdawgs on Apr 25, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Things are settling

keep at this tempo

"Nas is like.." Sex to a nympho, but nothin sweet
I'm like beef, bustin heat through your windows
I'm like a street sweeper, greenleaf reaper
Like Greeks in Egypt, learnin somethin deep from they teachers"- Nasir Jones

Goals in Life:
1. Earn that Business School Degree
2. Marry Kristin Kreuk
3. Own the Orlando Magic before Age 40.

Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Apr 25, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

JJ just Pwned Wade

Nice spin move

"Nas is like.." Sex to a nympho, but nothin sweet
I'm like beef, bustin heat through your windows
I'm like a street sweeper, greenleaf reaper
Like Greeks in Egypt, learnin somethin deep from they teachers"- Nasir Jones

Goals in Life:
1. Earn that Business School Degree
2. Marry Kristin Kreuk
3. Own the Orlando Magic before Age 40.

Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Apr 25, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Well when shots like that go down….

"Nas is like.." Sex to a nympho, but nothin sweet
I'm like beef, bustin heat through your windows
I'm like a street sweeper, greenleaf reaper
Like Greeks in Egypt, learnin somethin deep from they teachers"- Nasir Jones

Goals in Life:
1. Earn that Business School Degree
2. Marry Kristin Kreuk
3. Own the Orlando Magic before Age 40.

Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Apr 25, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

the bounces cannot keep going the heats way

also josh smith needs to pick up his jock strap and go to the hoop.

those two things and this is a ball game.

by hawksdawgs on Apr 25, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed

i cant think of the last time I could say this many hawks were playing legit bad

by hawksdawgs on Apr 25, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats just a prelude

…of an overkill of Kobe-Lebron commercials coming in May and June..

"Nas is like.." Sex to a nympho, but nothin sweet
I'm like beef, bustin heat through your windows
I'm like a street sweeper, greenleaf reaper
Like Greeks in Egypt, learnin somethin deep from they teachers"- Nasir Jones

Goals in Life:
1. Earn that Business School Degree
2. Marry Kristin Kreuk
3. Own the Orlando Magic before Age 40.

Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Apr 25, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

got to pass it.

and that had nothing to do with wade.

by hawksdawgs on Apr 25, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

god hates the hawks

Baseball is a game where a curve is an optical illusion, a screwball can be a pitch or a person, stealing is legal and you can spit anywhere you like except in the umpire's eye or on the ball.
James Patrick Murray

by dc_allday on Apr 25, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

D-Wade is D-Wade

He is who we thought he is……

"Nas is like.." Sex to a nympho, but nothin sweet
I'm like beef, bustin heat through your windows
I'm like a street sweeper, greenleaf reaper
Like Greeks in Egypt, learnin somethin deep from they teachers"- Nasir Jones

Goals in Life:
1. Earn that Business School Degree
2. Marry Kristin Kreuk
3. Own the Orlando Magic before Age 40.

Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Apr 25, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

i am depressed.

i mean i am wearing a mookie jersey without a shirt on. this performance just makes me feel dumb.

by hawksdawgs on Apr 25, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Trade Them All

The truth is this team is constructed in an unusual matter. Marvin, Josh, and Al could all be playing out of position. So, getting rid of one of these guys will most likely not work. You have to get rid of Joe and Marvin. Let Bibby walk, decide between Josh and Al as the cornerstone and start over. This will not work. They have know heart. It takes heart to step up and win road games in which you are not suppose to win and the Hawks are gutless.

by Hawks-Semi Fan on Apr 25, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

damn damn damn damn..

where is josh smith
who is josh smith
why is josh smith
what is josh smith
when will josh smith
how can josh smith

josh smith and mike woodson continue to define the hawks in 2009, has there been no growth from 2005-2008 ?

we might come back but still..this is simply another playoffshawks defining moment, marvin williams out just kills any cohesion they could have had

by higherself08 on Apr 25, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Wade is just too unreal tonight

Not tonight for Atlanta

"Nas is like.." Sex to a nympho, but nothin sweet
I'm like beef, bustin heat through your windows
I'm like a street sweeper, greenleaf reaper
Like Greeks in Egypt, learnin somethin deep from they teachers"- Nasir Jones

Goals in Life:
1. Earn that Business School Degree
2. Marry Kristin Kreuk
3. Own the Orlando Magic before Age 40.

Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Apr 25, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Little comeback here

"Nas is like.." Sex to a nympho, but nothin sweet
I'm like beef, bustin heat through your windows
I'm like a street sweeper, greenleaf reaper
Like Greeks in Egypt, learnin somethin deep from they teachers"- Nasir Jones

Goals in Life:
1. Earn that Business School Degree
2. Marry Kristin Kreuk
3. Own the Orlando Magic before Age 40.

Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Apr 25, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Now do you realize?

This is why people refuse to spend hard earned money to come out and see this type of garbage. Trade all these heartless cowards and fire Woodson!

by Hawks-Semi Fan on Apr 25, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

“Heartless cowards” seems kind of harsh. For anyone talking about any sport, ever, it seems pretty harsh.

by Bronn on Apr 25, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

If its only a Game?

If its only a game why dont they give those lofty salaries back? Quit begging for people to buy tickets and support your pretty women screwing, weed smoking, elaborate jewels, $100000 car buying habits.

by Hawks-Semi Fan on Apr 25, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

if they continue this type of mediocre basketball

definitely the heat will advance to 2nd round. nice effort

by hawksFAN10 on Apr 25, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

and woodson will be gone

by StottsEra on Apr 25, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heartless Cowards

That’s my perspective on these guys. Who can we get that will be a better coach is the bigger question?

by Hawks-Semi Fan on Apr 25, 2009 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Joe, Josh, Mike overpayed

I cut no slack for someone making that kind of money and not producing. They all have to go because they have no heart.

by Hawks-Semi Fan on Apr 25, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

now i know

why many people are doubting the hawks.
its because of their inconsistency and lack of FCKIN FOCUS!
joe needs to pick up his game. period!
now i also know why joe is not appreciated as much as kobe,lebron,cp3,wade,etc.
because he does not rise to the occassion in big games.
many hawks players are saying like “they’re not giving it to us, we should grab it”(about the games) and look who’s giving it right away!

by hawksFAN10 on Apr 26, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

The Quicker the Season Over the Better For Hawks Future

I will be routing for the Heat for now on its for the Hawks betterment. Joe is being exposed. There want be so much gripe when they try and move his expiring contract. Marvin is being exposed as someone you cant count on. So, there want be so much gripe trying to work out a sign and trade. Josh is being exposed as overpayed for his lack of growth. Mike is being exposed as not being a veteran leader. The quicker this is over the quicker they try to move these guys and start over.

by Hawks-Semi Fan on Apr 26, 2009 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

That was bad

They just seemed to quit. If your gonna lose like that at least get a technical foul pushing somebody, or getting in a Heat player’s face. Joe was getting roughed up every time he went to the basket, put some acting it it hit the floor yell, Get a foul called. If D wade is going to block shots then get him in foul trouble early. Use the bigs, give Solo more PT, run off of every miss Oneal can’t run. We are athletic enough to play this team one on one. Yeah they will score some points but these wide open threes and jumpers can’t happen. If we can contest the shot pull the rebound and run WE CAN BLOW THIS TEAM OUT.
This will be a major disappointment if we don’t get out of the 1st round. We keep JJ, Bibby, Horford, and Flip for sure but somebody is going BYE BYE if we don’t win this series. I like Marvin but we can’t keep saying next year next year, and Josh…..???? how does he not have a 15 rebs by halftime on this team….he is the most athletic guy in the league behind Lebron…….what is it with him ??

by Cmart34 on Apr 26, 2009 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Please

JJ is pure garbage and has been playing so all calender year. Bibby is one dimensional keep if the price is really low. I agree to keep Hortford and Flip. I would like to see everybody else moved.

by Hawks-Semi Fan on Apr 26, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

What Support

Did u guys all chip in on buying the refs or does the NBA take care of that? Its quite notable that their are plenty of open seats at the game. So, you definitely arent supporting them in that manner. The Heat are garbage, but so are the Hawks. Go to South Beach and indulge in little Sin City.

by Hawks-Semi Fan on Apr 26, 2009 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

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