Fire Woodson

by Jesse28 on Feb 10, 2009 2:35 PM EST Comment 7 comments

This is a comment to Bret's post on Hoopinion in regards to Acie's first start of the season. I didn't feel like creating a Blogger account and I couldn't post using the Anonymous tag, so I figured this was the best place to rant, er ... I mean post my comment. Whatever, it probably doesn't flow nor do I care at this point.

Short story: I hate Woodson and think he's holding back talent and this team's potential and should be released immediately.

Long story:

I agree with Drew and CoCo, and have been pretty much preaching it since before last season. Woodson has no business coaching a team. It does not and will never matter what players are provided to him, he will not change and they will never develop or get better by his cause. Woodson never reacts to anything in-game, he never reacts to things game-to-game, and it's been obvious to me that he isn't reacting to things from season to season. The fact that ownership signed him up for another three years is NOT indicative of him doing a good job, but more so an indictment of the ownership itself and their cheap ways. At least BK tried firing Woody. At this point, he's the only one that saw what was happening.

Until Woodson is gone, nothing will change. The players will continue to not develop their game, the stale offensive play calling will remain, and this team will languish in relative mediocrity and unfulfilled potential. I place all blame on him at this point. And as a lifelong fan, this is seriously getting maddening to watch and be a part of.

Acie should be splitting minutes with Bibby on the first team and leading all minutes with the second team at the point. That's why you draft first round players, so that they actually PLAY, not sit and expect to be ready to play. Nothing simulates game-time experience except playing in real games.

Also, Woodson completely fails at adjusting to the players on the team and taking advantage of each of their strong points. He simply expects each player to adjust to his philosophy, which isn't much of one to begin with, and like Drew said, he has already made his mind up on Acie.

Fire Woodson. That's the only solution.

-Jesse

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i want to say preach it

but part it of me knows my biases run deep against this man.

and part of me knows the hawks have their best record at the all-star break since the 90s.

and part of me knows agreeing, whether i mean to do it or not, lets off players who’s effort and focus have not been what they should be.

but i must say it is very tempting to just go ahead and buy firemikewoodson.com right now and go to town.

But i will hold on by a thread right now and say finish the season and reevaluate. still, i am perfectly willing for someone to come snap that thread at any point.

by hawksdawgs on Feb 10, 2009 6:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

yeah

I just wanted to rant a little and it’s context is fully realized when read with the other comments on Hoopinions post, instead of singularly here. I also recognize that there are players who either aren’t working hard enough off the court to improve or have become complacent and do not give the effort needed during the game, but isn’t part of coaching to help those players realize their potential through off-court training and to keep them motivated during games?

It’s been documented and we have seen it during games where the players don’t agree with Woodson on things, and to me that says a lot about the situation as a whole.

I would be tempted to buy that domain if I thought the ownership would even remotely listen.

by Jesse28 on Feb 11, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

acie played pretty well today in about 15 minutes so hopefully woody will be forced to play him more often

by acie4mvp on Feb 10, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

i find ur lack of faith very disturbing

by da fatchick thrilla on Feb 19, 2009 3:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

I'm sorry

You must be fairly disturbed then, as there are a lot of people here who have no faith in Woody.

by Jesse28 on Feb 19, 2009 8:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry for lashing out you, everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

It’s just that so many people are really sore at the guy. Cmon, it’s been so long that we have seen the hawks play this well compared to what has been going on the past I dunno, eight years. I know we have been dealing with Woodson for like 5 five years now with some bad seasons, but i think things are startin to look up. Sure, we aint up there with the Magic, but there is plenty of time for the Hawks to improve. Question: if most people have it their way, would they want to fire Woody right now, despite the season we are having? If that happens, how would the players respond to someone new? And finally, who is there to get?

by da fatchick thrilla on Feb 19, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Naw

No need to apologize, it wasn’t much of a lashing out. In fact, I’m still trying to figure out what movie I have heard that line in.

Back to the point at hand though, I agree that the Hawks are playing better than what had become the mean over the last decade. The thing is I don’t think it has much to do with Woodson, but rather it’s a direct reflection of constantly drafting talented players high in the order. Sure Woodson has probably dropped a few nuggets of basketball wisdom into the players heads, but ultimately I think he has done nothing but hold back the potential of this young talented team. I think our improved play over the last two years is simply a byproduct of experience gained from time spent playing in the pro’s by these young players.

My argument still remains that he should have never been extended in the first place after last year, but there’s nothing else that can be done about that. I would say that most probably wouldn’t want to release Woody immediately simply because of how far along in the season we are. I think all of the players would probably have a positive reaction to playing for someone new. Most of us have seen on the court or read about the current player to coach relations, so I don’t think it would be a stretch to say that bringing in someone new would probably refresh the players.

Right now, I don’t think there are a lot of options in the coaching department if you are looking long term for the future. Our best opportunity was last year in my opinion, but our ownership took the cheapest route, which more than likely will always be the case for the next few years until they resolve their own issues.

Don’t get me wrong, I still love this team and I still have faith in them as players, I just think that our progress will always be stymied with Woodson running things.

by Jesse28 on Feb 19, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs