Preview and Game Thread #19: New York Knicks @ Atlanta Hawks
by hawksdawgs on Dec 4, 2009 4:09 PM EST
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New York Knicks at Atlanta Hawks, Dec 4, 2009 7:30 PM EST
| Atlanta Hawks 09-10 Season Game #19 | ||
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| 4-15 | 13-5 |
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| Philips Arena |
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| Dec. 4th, 2009, 7:30 PM | ||
| Sports South, Hawks Radio Network, NBA Audio League Pass | ||
| Probable starters: | ||
| Chris Duhon |
PG | Mike Bibby |
| Larry Hughes |
SG | Joe Johnson |
| Danilo Gallinari | SF | Marvin Williams |
| Al Harrington |
PF | Josh Smith |
| David Lee |
C | Al Horford |
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Hawks Injury Report: None
Knicks Injury Report: Eddy Curry may or may not be active depending on things only God knows.
Blogging With the Enemy: Posting and Toasting
Predicted bane of the Hawks existence: DNP be damned. Nate Robinson. The good news is that Nate is always the Hawks bane to cut Atlanta's lead from 15 to 5 and not say to extend the Knicks lead from 5 to 15. But little Nate will score 20+ tonight. I assure you of that.
Game Preview:
Did you know the Hawks score more points a game than the Knicks? Sure 146 point games still sway things a bit this early in the season, but the Hawks offense is impressive. Really, when you think about it, the Hawks rarely have a game where any two positions are over matched by opposing defense.
If you will take a trip down memory lane with me, this is what I wrote after the Hawks first win over the Knicks.
The starting front court had 47 points, 21 rebounds, 4 steals, 3 blocks, and 7 assists. Any team in the league is not ok with those numbers, they are ecstatic. Those are Christmas list numbers.
I think it goes without saying where our strategy should at least start tonight. Actually, it does not go without saying because 1) I just said it and 2) I am nervous it won't happen. So I guess, it is obvious and goes with very intentional, emphatic saying "feed the post."
Keys to the game:
- Just because one team does not play defense does not mean the other team has to give up there too. The Hawks can save energy for a tough back to back by starting focused and giving strong effort on defense. There is no rule against having two games in a row like the Toronto effort. Although tonight, 125 points is fine.
- Shut down the hot guy. New York has no superstar, but between Nate Robinson, Al Harrington, Gallinari, and even Larry Hughes, someone is bound to catch fire. Put the fire out. If the Knicks are on enough where multiple guys are drilling shots, it is a different story but wait for that one to be written because I don't see it happening.
- Feed the post. Repeat.
Happy Friday and go Hawks!
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I love the name of the Knick Blog.
Every time I read “Posting and Toasting” I can only hear it in Clyde Frasier’s voice.
by Duff_Man on Dec 4, 2009 4:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Will Nate Robinson play?
I suppose it mostly depends on whether he wants to be conducive to winning.
Which I translate as “Not pissing off Mike D’Antoni before tip-off.”
by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 5:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
sure nate will do nothing but hurt the knicks on defense (which is impressive)
but he will do nothing but help on offense.
by hawksdawgs on Dec 4, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nate is another one of those quick guards that we cannot defend.
We match up well with the bigger guards but mostly we have to rely on Josh and Al to stop the quick ones. Then we gripe about lack of rebounds. Is it to early and appropriate to think about trading Collins for a defensive guard? A defensive specialist?
The few Rand Mo sightings have given me some confidence to at least consider the idea.
by RivBoatGambler on Dec 4, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
from frequent commenter Co Co on twitter
“Just exchanged pleasantries with Allan Houston. He’s still old in case u were wondering.”
by hawksdawgs on Dec 4, 2009 5:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
this makes me anxious for tomorrows
Game, although ya can’t underestimate the kicks so I will watch it………….. I hope its entertaining because I have been sorda bored by the blowouts . I will take a win anyway but one with excitement is good too
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 5:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Note to Woody
Oh Woody, please bear in mind that this is the first game of a back to back. Please try not to play our starters upwards of 35+ minutes as they will be beat to hell tomorrow in Dallas. Please give Teague some playing time as a reward for playing well against Toronto. Finally, I ask that you not panic when Al get 2 fouls in the first half. Best Regards
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 6:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
lol
I second that note. teague played really well in that game, he deserves some pt……..oh yeah is othello still on the team? D league? haven’t seen him at all
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 6:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I'm putting the under/over for teague's PT at 6 mins
and I’m betting the under. Woody is Woody.
by dmortone on Dec 4, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He is the guy at the end of the bench in a suit. Hawks can only suit 12. Hunter is 13 on depth chart.
by RivBoatGambler on Dec 4, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What???!!!!
i look good in a suit why cant i ride on the end of the bench. Screw you Othello Hunter and ur stupid name
by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but why not let othello take Collins spot?
When I saw him play he looked rusty. othello has lots of energy when he plays. and I gained a bit of respect for morris in the last game. anyone else feel the same way. maybe he can earn 2 minutes of playing time or more(just a little)
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 7:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
but why not let othello take Collins spot?
When I saw him play he looked rusty. othello has lots of energy when he plays. and I gained a bit of respect for morris in the last game. anyone else feel the same way. maybe he can earn 2 minutes of playing time or more(just a little)
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 7:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
That's obviously not correct, but shocking nonetheless
by Buzzsaw on Dec 4, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Clyde Frasier’s !
Watching the game on MSG TV. Clide just made a comment about Josh . "He uses Agility, hostility and dexterity to get to the rim’. Does he just come up with these quotes on the fly? Real cool.
by dkrib on Dec 4, 2009 7:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Here we go ladies and gentlemen, cross eyed mosquitoes and bow legged ants. Let's get it on.
My early attempt at quote for the night. lol
by RivBoatGambler on Dec 4, 2009 7:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If there's any Knicks fan here
I doubt you’ll be sticking around for the second half.
by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just as I thought
We’re gonna start scoring 140 a game
by Buzzsaw on Dec 4, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Was that a shot attempt from Josh
Or did he just pass out to David Lee?
by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 7:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Horford and Mavin are making me really happy right now
now if we could defend the 3pt line
by dmortone on Dec 4, 2009 7:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow....ok. this one is fast tonight. keep up lol
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 7:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
can somebody give me a link to watch this game
by bibbY10 on Dec 4, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So we subbed Jamal Crawford in for Marvin Williams why?
Because Marvin was shooting the ball too well? The perimeter defense wasn’t bad enough?
Don’t get that early sub decision.
by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
wow
Lots at the basket. nice hawks
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 7:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
chair busting talents
of Zaza Pachulia only Bob could give u gold like that
by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I want some teague!
Why was marv takin out and put back in? body, I’m worried about you
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
It feels like we're winning
but the scoreboard disagrees
by dmortone on Dec 4, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dang they are really lighten it up!!
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Mercy - can't believe the Nicks are shooting so well.
by RivBoatGambler on Dec 4, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
first unit went out quick
Just like the first quarter. that’s good basketball lol
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
marv is back!
This is a bench type of game
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Zaza trying to post up harrrington is my nightmare
It’s right up there with walking in on my parents during alone time
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 8:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Harrington hasn't missed
I’m pretty sure sometimes when he shoots it goes in twice
by dmortone on Dec 4, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no attempt at that rebound
On the harrington 3
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
seriously
Why did al and smooth disappear
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Dick has entered the building.
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 8:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
What in the world is going on?
Missing layups?
by Duff_Man on Dec 4, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the rim is the enemy
Until smooth ducks correctly
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
the rim is the enemy
Until smooth dunks correctly
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
More playing time for Marvin here we go
by RealSquawk on Dec 4, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Smoove
didnt show up tonight old Josh showed up god damn it
by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
too many jumpshots
Come on hawks
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
this is one of those games
were we decide to take to many jumshots and dont make them
by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 8:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
smooth is seriously ejected?
Meaning no Dallas tomorrow?
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
ugh
Atleast al knows what’s going on
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
o I thought ejection meant one game suspension
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Why would Joe feed Marvin in the post?
Instead of backing his defender down?
by Duff_Man on Dec 4, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
JJ is ice cold.
We need a Jamal surge NOW.
by Duff_Man on Dec 4, 2009 8:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nique uses the word "again" a lot
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 8:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
btw, who called teague getting less than 6 mins of run tonight?
I shoulda called the DNP-CD, although that might have to do with the fact that we might get blown out by the freaking knicks
by dmortone on Dec 4, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ugh
Why is teague on the bench
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
open threes. i call that the bibby defense
by RealSquawk on Dec 4, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ehhh
only down by 13 could be alot worse we can still win this one
by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
tough second quarter
Atleast the lead is under 20. Dick needs to be called to the benched! can’t leave those jumpers alone man!
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Feed the post!
Al is a hungry hungry hippo
by coachkcastellon on Dec 4, 2009 8:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
didn't dsdeelite come up with jjs alter ego dick?
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
That was Riv's idea. And a good one I might add
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 8:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
My God how does Al Harrington have 25 points in the first half?
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 8:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
So let's see
No Josh Smith, Joe Johnson is cold as ice (again!).
Conclusion: Really need to get more looks for Horford and Marvin.
What’s like to happen: Tons more plays run for Jamal Crawford.
by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 8:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
smooth or should I say josh
Is ejected. egotistical asshole(excuse my language)
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Dick (Johnson) 3-11 - what happened to our all-star
by RivBoatGambler on Dec 4, 2009 8:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dick Johnson is officially in a shooting slump. God, help my boyfriend cuz he's gonna catch it tonight if the Hawks lose.
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 8:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
man
My thoughts: Just a game. horribly played one though.
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Is it me or does every former Hawk player come back to Philips and make a mockery out of us? I.e. Anthony Johnson and Al Harrington
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 8:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
i noticed that to
wats next Acie Law commin back and torchin us for 40
by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So after the 9:56 in the first quarter
Knicks outscore Atlanta 64-40 in the first half.
Yuck.
by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 8:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
good move to start zaza
Defense is needed
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else hoping that Joe Smith traded jerseys with Josh Smith at half time?
by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 8:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Taurus...and my name is Edwin...
Now I like a Joe Johnson shot that…floats…float onnnnnn
by Duff_Man on Dec 4, 2009 8:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yea BIBBY
Zaza making his presence felt
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Al Horford is my hero.
One of them, anyway.
by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 8:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
so yeah what happens when more than one knick is hot?
by RealSquawk on Dec 4, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Has this team ever heard of boxing out??
Side note David Lee with 14 rebounds helps my fantasy league, but not my heart palpatations
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 8:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Horford with 4 assists and 9 boards helps mine
But why isn’t he being used more in the offense?
by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Duhon, Anthony Johnson, Darren Collison
All these marginal point guards just light up the hawks
by dmortone on Dec 4, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
lead in single digits
We aren’t takin advantage. come on hawks! energy and excitement! Atleast be anxious
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I guess Jason Terry will pick with the Hawk bashing tomorrow
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 9:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
if BIBBY says its a steal
Its a steal
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
because he is the knower of all things basketball
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 9:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Al may be the best player in the NBA who does not get the rock
by RivBoatGambler on Dec 4, 2009 9:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
His season high came against the Knicks earlier this year
Only, he’s only had 6 FGAs this game.
by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
was that all blue in the lane for lee dunk
by RealSquawk on Dec 4, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
my mouth shut quick
I sure was about to say something about the shot selection of dick lol
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Marvin have 13 in the opening quarter?
What’s happened since?
by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
free throws are free. Have some
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 9:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
wow
Really good matchup right now
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Al H. vs Al H. Who will win???? Dun dun dun
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 9:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
jj is showing up
Because of Crawford
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
JC @ the line is money in the bank
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 9:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
teague has to warm up!!
Dick posing as jj. nice though. the real jj should fully emerge in the fourth
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
OK...the Hawks have taken the lead...
Ever since I told the girl at my house to watch topless.
This may be the greatest second half ever.
by Duff_Man on Dec 4, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
All we need Joe to do is earn his paycheck and not suck up to boss for a raise.
Dick needs to fall back!!!!
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 9:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Marvin has reemerged
Good job moe
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
the streaming at atdhe.net stopped!!!
damn
by bibbY10 on Dec 4, 2009 9:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
we are going to shoot ourself out of this game
by RealSquawk on Dec 4, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Al gets to prove if he really belongs in the power forward position
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 9:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
can't get a break
Rim hasn’t been broken in tonight
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
That's okay
Wilson Chandler isn’t excited about it either.
by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
omg
That’s a little funny-two shots from right under the rim that both hit the bottom of the rim and go straight down.
by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 9:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I swear it's something right from own bag of tricks.
I can totally recall doing that in a pick-up game.
by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if we win this one dramatically
I’m gonna need a boring blowouts tomorrow in the hawks favor that is
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
if we win this one dramatically
I’m gonna need a boring blowouts tomorrow in the hawks favor that is
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Who exactly is guarding Horford at this point?
No Harrington or Lee on the floor…Jeffries?
We should be running every set for Horford right now.
Oh wait, Lee’s back now.
by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
never thought id say this
Bibby come on box out
by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What do y'all think Woody draws on his dry erase board? Tic tac toe? Connect the dots?
it damn sure ain’t any offensive plays
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 9:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
why did josh got ejected anyway?
i didnt get to watch the 1st half
by bibbY10 on Dec 4, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Complained about a no call on a made shot
Then kept jawing at half court after the first T.
Mostly, he was probably embarassed about missing a wide open dunk one play earlier and making up for by being childish.
by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ugh
Too much back and forth.
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
We're not the only ones struggling
Dallas is down double digits to the Grizzzlies right now
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 9:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
If you're going to feed Horford in the post
Shouldn’t you do it with more than 9 seconds left on the shot clock?
by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
defense and score
Darn al come on now
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Al is
tryin his best to bring the team back but Woody is killing it
by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
not looking good right now
Not guarding Hughes or the other guard on the knicks
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
We're going to win cause I said so
That’s all there is to it
by supraman on Dec 4, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
does Woody
not realize that were not makin 3s but for some reason we keep takin them
by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'll take the heat for this game
I benched Larry Hughes on my fantasy team, thus guaranteeing he would have a good game
by dmortone on Dec 4, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So let me get this right. All our starters have damn near played the entire game only to lose? This means our starters will play like shit tomorrow.
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 9:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking its over
The time just hasn’t ran out yet.
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I'm done
I’m praying for Dallas to be merciful but we might look for revenge for losing to the bottom of the bucket knicks
by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
hey dick how about you play hard when it counts
by RealSquawk on Dec 4, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have never understood the fouling game
by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 9:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
JJ had a bad first half
But his overall game wasn’t bad. I mean, 29 points on 24 FGAs, with 8 assists and 8 rebounds.
If the Hawks had shown any resistance on defense for Larry Hughes and Chris Duhon, this game is quite a bit different.
by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
More Smoove, more Horford, and less Duhon
Was what we needed tonight. But it wasn’t happening.
by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 9:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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