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Preview and Game Thread #19: New York Knicks @ Atlanta Hawks

New York Knicks at Atlanta Hawks, Dec 4, 2009 7:30 PM EST


Atlanta Hawks 09-10 Season Game  #19

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4-15
13-5
Philips Arena
Dec. 4th, 2009, 7:30 PM
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Probable starters:
Chris Duhon
PG Mike Bibby
Larry Hughes
SG Joe Johnson
Danilo Gallinari SF Marvin Williams
Al Harrington
PF Josh Smith
David Lee
C Al Horford

 

Hawks Injury Report: None

Knicks Injury Report: Eddy Curry may or may not be active depending on things only God knows. 

Blogging With the Enemy: Posting and Toasting

Predicted bane of the Hawks existence: DNP be damned. Nate Robinson. The good news is that Nate is always the Hawks bane to cut Atlanta's lead from 15 to 5 and not say to extend the Knicks lead from 5 to 15. But little Nate will score 20+ tonight. I assure you of that.

Star-divide

Game Preview:

Did you know the Hawks score more points a game than the Knicks? Sure 146 point games still sway things a bit this early in the season, but the Hawks offense is impressive. Really, when you think about it, the Hawks rarely have a game where any two positions are over matched by opposing defense.

If you will take a trip down memory lane with me, this is what I wrote after the Hawks first win over the Knicks.

The starting front court had 47 points, 21 rebounds, 4 steals, 3 blocks, and 7 assists. Any team in the league is not ok with those numbers, they are ecstatic. Those are Christmas list numbers.

I think it goes without saying where our strategy should at least start tonight. Actually, it does not go without saying because 1) I just said it and 2) I am nervous it won't happen. So I guess, it is obvious and goes with very intentional, emphatic saying "feed the post."

Keys to the game:

  1. Just because one team does not play defense does not mean the other team has to give up there too. The Hawks can save energy for a tough back to back by starting focused and giving strong effort on defense. There is no rule against having two games in a row like the Toronto effort. Although tonight, 125 points is fine.
  2. Shut down the hot guy. New York has no superstar, but between Nate Robinson, Al Harrington, Gallinari, and even Larry Hughes, someone is bound to catch fire. Put the fire out. If the Knicks are on enough where multiple guys are drilling shots, it is a different story but wait for that one to be written because I don't see it happening.
  3. Feed the post. Repeat.

Happy Friday and go Hawks!

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I love the name of the Knick Blog.

Every time I read “Posting and Toasting” I can only hear it in Clyde Frasier’s voice.

by Duff_Man on Dec 4, 2009 4:45 PM EST reply actions  

Will Nate Robinson play?

I suppose it mostly depends on whether he wants to be conducive to winning.

Which I translate as “Not pissing off Mike D’Antoni before tip-off.”

by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 5:30 PM EST reply actions  

Nate is another one of those quick guards that we cannot defend.

 We match up well with the bigger guards but mostly we have to rely on Josh and Al to stop the quick ones. Then we gripe about lack of rebounds. Is it to early and appropriate to think about trading Collins for a defensive guard? A defensive specialist?
The few Rand Mo sightings have given me some confidence to at least consider the idea.

by RivBoatGambler on Dec 4, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

this makes me anxious for tomorrows

Game, although ya can’t underestimate the kicks so I will watch it………….. I hope its entertaining because I have been sorda bored by the blowouts . I will take a win anyway but one with excitement is good too

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 5:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Note to Woody

Oh Woody, please bear in mind that this is the first game of a back to back. Please try not to play our starters upwards of 35+ minutes as they will be beat to hell tomorrow in Dallas. Please give Teague some playing time as a reward for playing well against Toronto. Finally, I ask that you not panic when Al get 2 fouls in the first half. Best Regards

by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 6:23 PM EST reply actions  

lol

I second that note. teague played really well in that game, he deserves some pt……..oh yeah is othello still on the team? D league? haven’t seen him at all

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 6:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

but why not let othello take Collins spot?

When I saw him play he looked rusty. othello has lots of energy when he plays. and I gained a bit of respect for morris in the last game. anyone else feel the same way. maybe he can earn 2 minutes of playing time or more(just a little)

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 7:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

but why not let othello take Collins spot?

When I saw him play he looked rusty. othello has lots of energy when he plays. and I gained a bit of respect for morris in the last game. anyone else feel the same way. maybe he can earn 2 minutes of playing time or more(just a little)

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 7:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Clyde Frasier’s !

Watching the game on MSG TV. Clide just made a comment about Josh . "He uses Agility, hostility and dexterity to get to the rim’. Does he just come up with these quotes on the fly? Real cool.

by dkrib on Dec 4, 2009 7:35 PM EST reply actions  

If there's any Knicks fan here

I doubt you’ll be sticking around for the second half.

by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

Just as I thought

We’re gonna start scoring 140 a game

by Buzzsaw on Dec 4, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

Oh NO!

Heat Check for MArvin.

by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 7:48 PM EST reply actions  

Was that a shot attempt from Josh

Or did he just pass out to David Lee?

by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 7:49 PM EST reply actions  

So we subbed Jamal Crawford in for Marvin Williams why?

Because Marvin was shooting the ball too well? The perimeter defense wasn’t bad enough?

Don’t get that early sub decision.

by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions  

chair busting talents

of Zaza Pachulia only Bob could give u gold like that

by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

I want some teague!

Why was marv takin out and put back in? body, I’m worried about you

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

god

its like we cant defend the 3pt line

by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 8:05 PM EST reply actions  

first unit went out quick

Just like the first quarter. that’s good basketball lol

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

marv is back!

This is a bench type of game

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Zaza trying to post up harrrington is my nightmare

It’s right up there with walking in on my parents during alone time

by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 8:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

seriously

Why did al and smooth disappear

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

darn!

come on hawks

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

the rim is the enemy

Until smooth ducks correctly

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

wtf

Josh blew that dunk come on

by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

the rim is the enemy

Until smooth dunks correctly

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

wtf

Josh got ejected NOOOOO

by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 8:18 PM EST reply actions  

More playing time for Marvin here we go

by RealSquawk on Dec 4, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

Smoove

didnt show up tonight old Josh showed up god damn it

by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

Stop shooting jump shots!!

by RealSquawk on Dec 4, 2009 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

this is one of those games

were we decide to take to many jumshots and dont make them

by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

smooth is seriously ejected?

Meaning no Dallas tomorrow?

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

ugh

Atleast al knows what’s going on

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Are we going to loose to the knicks

by RealSquawk on Dec 4, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

JJ is ice cold.

We need a Jamal surge NOW.

by Duff_Man on Dec 4, 2009 8:28 PM EST reply actions  

btw, who called teague getting less than 6 mins of run tonight?

I shoulda called the DNP-CD, although that might have to do with the fact that we might get blown out by the freaking knicks

by dmortone on Dec 4, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

ugh

Why is teague on the bench

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

open threes. i call that the bibby defense

by RealSquawk on Dec 4, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

Somebody came to play

by RealSquawk on Dec 4, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions  

ehhh

only down by 13 could be alot worse we can still win this one

by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions  

let’s see how Espn is doing

by RealSquawk on Dec 4, 2009 8:35 PM EST reply actions  

tough second quarter

Atleast the lead is under 20. Dick needs to be called to the benched! can’t leave those jumpers alone man!

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

So let's see

No Josh Smith, Joe Johnson is cold as ice (again!).

Conclusion: Really need to get more looks for Horford and Marvin.

What’s like to happen: Tons more plays run for Jamal Crawford.

by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

man

My thoughts: Just a game. horribly played one though.

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Taurus...and my name is Edwin...

Now I like a Joe Johnson shot that…floats…float onnnnnn

by Duff_Man on Dec 4, 2009 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

yea BIBBY

Zaza making his presence felt

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 8:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

so yeah what happens when more than one knick is hot?

by RealSquawk on Dec 4, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

Has this team ever heard of boxing out??

Side note David Lee with 14 rebounds helps my fantasy league, but not my heart palpatations

by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 8:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Horford with 4 assists and 9 boards helps mine

But why isn’t he being used more in the offense?

by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Duhon, Anthony Johnson, Darren Collison

All these marginal point guards just light up the hawks

by dmortone on Dec 4, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

lead in single digits

We aren’t takin advantage. come on hawks! energy and excitement! Atleast be anxious

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

was that all blue in the lane for lee dunk

by RealSquawk on Dec 4, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

my mouth shut quick

I sure was about to say something about the shot selection of dick lol

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

no still a dick just lucky

by RealSquawk on Dec 4, 2009 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

was that booty bump foul by bibby

by RealSquawk on Dec 4, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

wow

Really good matchup right now

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

jj is showing up

Because of Crawford

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

teague has to warm up!!

Dick posing as jj. nice though. the real jj should fully emerge in the fourth

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

OK...the Hawks have taken the lead...

Ever since I told the girl at my house to watch topless.

This may be the greatest second half ever.

by Duff_Man on Dec 4, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions  

we are going to shoot ourself out of this game

by RealSquawk on Dec 4, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions  

can't get a break

Rim hasn’t been broken in tonight

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

That's okay

Wilson Chandler isn’t excited about it either.

by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

omg

That’s a little funny-two shots from right under the rim that both hit the bottom of the rim and go straight down.

by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 9:26 PM EST reply actions  

if we win this one dramatically

I’m gonna need a boring blowouts tomorrow in the hawks favor that is

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

if we win this one dramatically

I’m gonna need a boring blowouts tomorrow in the hawks favor that is

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Who exactly is guarding Horford at this point?

No Harrington or Lee on the floor…Jeffries?

We should be running every set for Horford right now.

Oh wait, Lee’s back now.

by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

Complained about a no call on a made shot

Then kept jawing at half court after the first T.

Mostly, he was probably embarassed about missing a wide open dunk one play earlier and making up for by being childish.

by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

josh being josh and not smoove

by RealSquawk on Dec 4, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

ugh

Too much back and forth.

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

We're not the only ones struggling

Dallas is down double digits to the Grizzzlies right now

by dstdeelite on Dec 4, 2009 9:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

crap

we need some stops asap

by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

If you're going to feed Horford in the post

Shouldn’t you do it with more than 9 seconds left on the shot clock?

by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

defense and score

Darn al come on now

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Al is

tryin his best to bring the team back but Woody is killing it

by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

not looking good right now

Not guarding Hughes or the other guard on the knicks

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

does Woody

not realize that were not makin 3s but for some reason we keep takin them

by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

I'll take the heat for this game

I benched Larry Hughes on my fantasy team, thus guaranteeing he would have a good game

by dmortone on Dec 4, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

I'm thinking its over

The time just hasn’t ran out yet.

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I'm done

I’m praying for Dallas to be merciful but we might look for revenge for losing to the bottom of the bucket knicks

by Hawksgirl on Dec 4, 2009 9:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

hey dick how about you play hard when it counts

by RealSquawk on Dec 4, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

ehh

i blame for this loss

by Erihury on Dec 4, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions  

JJ had a bad first half

But his overall game wasn’t bad. I mean, 29 points on 24 FGAs, with 8 assists and 8 rebounds.

If the Hawks had shown any resistance on defense for Larry Hughes and Chris Duhon, this game is quite a bit different.

by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions  

More Smoove, more Horford, and less Duhon

Was what we needed tonight. But it wasn’t happening.

by Bronn on Dec 4, 2009 9:55 PM EST reply actions  

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