Preview and Game Thread #22: Atlanta Hawks @ Toronto Raptors
Atlanta Hawks at Toronto Raptors, Dec 11, 2009 7:00 PM EST
| Atlanta Hawks 09-10 Season Game #22 | ||
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| 15-6 | 10-14 |
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| Air Canada Centre |
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| Dec, 11th 2009, 7:00 PM | ||
| Sports South, Hawks Radio Network, NBA Audio League Pass | ||
| Probable starters: | ||
| Mike Bibby |
PG | Jose Calderon |
| Joe Johnson | SG | DeMar DeRozen |
| Marvin Williams |
SF | Hedo Turkoglu |
| Josh Smith | PF | Chris Bosh |
| Al Horford | C | Andrea Bargnani |
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Hawks Injury Report: Joe Smith is out
Raptors Injury Report: Reggie Evans is out and Jose Calderon and Andrea Bargnani are questionable.
Blogging With the Enemy: Raptors HQ (with a Q&A with me about things you are probably tired of reading me write about)
Predicted bane of the Hawks existence: Chris Bosh
Game Preview:
Hardwood Paroxysm tells us why we should watch every game tonight. And he nails the Hawks/Raptors game,
Meanwhile, the Hawks, and I’ve been meaning to comment on this for a while, know they should win games. I cannot overstress this, even with all the bold in the world. I could bold that fragment with the darkness of a black hole and it would not be enough. This team for half a decade has relied on going into each game with no knowledge. They were zen, no-mind. They just went out and ran and did things and then moved on. But now? This team is taking four years of doubters’ hate out on every team they come across. That Bulls game on Wednesday was the exact type of game they would have lost last year or the year before. Instead, they didn’t just beat them, they ran them out of the building, down the street, and out into Indiana. Seriously, I think Kirk Hinrich may be starting for Indiana tonight, that’s how badly the Hawks hurt the Bulls. But Toronto’s been trying to get its dignity back, so it’s possible this thing could turn.
+1.
Keys to the game:
- Attack the glass. Advantages win games when they are taken...advantage of.
- Patience on offense. Somewhere in those 24 seconds you are going to get a good shot.
- Lots of Al.
Go Hawks!
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"Atlanta without Joe Johnson next year would struggle to make the playoffs"
WEAK. What are you assuming here? If Atlanta loses JJ and picks up absolutely no one, then they won’t make the playoffs?
I mean, if all we did was add Crawford to the starting lineup and added someone else to the bench, we’d still make the playoffs easily. Teams with Al Horford don’t miss the playoffs. Teams with Good Josh Smith don’t miss the playoffs.
If we lose JJ, players would be begging to take his place with the supporting cast the Hawks have.
even though I don't like to talk about losing jj
Its true. if we lose him many top guards would want the position he had especially on a promising team
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 5:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
someone who needs a fresh start
Someone similar to montae Ellis or branding Roy type players (not sayin these are potential prospects although montae is reportedly unhappy on the warriors)
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 5:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And a guard who is No.2 or the second option after a star………can’t think of any right now but you really never know who may want to come hear just like how Crawford was happy to come
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 5:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We lose Bibby with JJ
Lot of young quick guards out there waiting on playing time and money. Do you think they would have a problem feeding Al and Josh? Pushing the ball? Passing instead of ISO? I agree we might not be as good for a year but after that – maybe better.
I think JJ will stay but I would not increase his offer. Dosen’t Chills come off the books after this year? Or make him the new 6 man.
Speaking of cap why can’t we go over. What top ten team in the league spends less than us. Most spend 10-24 million more. That would get you a player.
by RivBoatGambler on Dec 11, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
We can't go over the cap to sign a free agent
That’s why the Knick are trying so hard to get expiring contracts
209 is the o/u, FWIW
Anyone think that’s insanely low? Isn’t it really likely that both teams are pushing 130, considering the last match-up?
Should I find a bookie and place a bet on this?
Worth a reminder:
Here’s the Raptor’s coach following the last loss to the Hawks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vHRMeRszw4
Let’s hope he has to go through that again.
I am at the bar getting fueled up
Get ready, game threaders! Angry white northerner comin’ through!
by Duff_Man on Dec 11, 2009 6:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Michael Buffer just sued you for $10,000.
Check your mail.
by Duff_Man on Dec 11, 2009 7:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh no!
We’re wearing those bad luck red unis!! They’re the ones Orlando spanked us in.
by dstdeelite on Dec 11, 2009 7:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
that was too close to the 3pt line for josh
What is going on
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 7:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
lets redeem these jerseys tonight
It should stand for Toronto’s blood(not literally but figuratively speaking)
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 7:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
come on ref
Turn up the heat hawks!
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 7:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't like the vibe of this game
by dstdeelite on Dec 11, 2009 7:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
alrighty
I’m started to wonder about these jerseys. alright marv
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 7:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Lol, Josh
After the time-out, he takes a second to argue a no-call from the previous possession with the ref.
Not gonna be Josh’s night tonight.
did you read the ref stuff - refs will pick on complainers
by RivBoatGambler on Dec 11, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
energy isn't there
Bring on Crawford and teague
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 7:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions
OMG
Vibes isn’t right. no energy. what happened on delta
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 7:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I guess I'll watch Criminal Minds
by dstdeelite on Dec 11, 2009 7:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
hustle hustle hustle
Jj king of 1 on 3 shots mad
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 7:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Are we gonna play any defense tonight?
Is Dick gonna be prevalent tonight? Damn I hope not!!
by dstdeelite on Dec 11, 2009 7:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
we play bottom teams next week
If we win today we could get a good win streak going
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 7:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
JT getting more minutes
I'll Have A Matty Ice Please.
by IllHaveAMattyIcePlease on Dec 11, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions
not bad hawks
Moe covered for josh
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 7:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
so
It was only a 2 anyway. still got the lead
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 7:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
so....
josh smith starts hitting shots, no foul trouble, a little defense, and the hawks are up by 10 at half.
let smoove show you how its done bosh
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 7:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Haha...I like the fact that you have a Hawks blog that has a minor love affair with Zaza...
and she’s only now noticing his name.
ugh i wish aaron gray was in this game
i was captivated by his fatness for the entire fourth quarter.
I'm excited about Utah
Always a good matchup
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 7:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
teague!
Quick hands. permanent back up point guard woody! permanent!
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 7:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
shooting great
Defense good…how another blowouts possibly. that would be embarrassing for Toronto though
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 8:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
btw with mo lighting it up
that was a horrible shot by crawford.
i needed to say that to be fair and balanced.
Both Nique and Bob are close talkers. They're gonna accidentally kiss one day.
by dstdeelite on Dec 11, 2009 8:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
PizzaPizza with the deflection!!!
by dstdeelite on Dec 11, 2009 8:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
why are we not giving it to mo?
I'll Have A Matty Ice Please.
by IllHaveAMattyIcePlease on Dec 11, 2009 8:05 PM EST reply actions
zaza
The unestablished Canadian hater
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 8:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
lol he said after the falcons get done beat the saints
I'll Have A Matty Ice Please.
by IllHaveAMattyIcePlease on Dec 11, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
i guess all 14 on them knew they weren't gettin a mill each from tiger
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
How does Tiger keep track of what hole he is playing?
By the tattoo on her back
I'll Have A Matty Ice Please.
by IllHaveAMattyIcePlease on Dec 11, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
last play...............
Jj penetrates and misses. but bad start great recovery. nice lead lets keep it goin
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 8:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Is that what Woody drew up for Dick?
by dstdeelite on Dec 11, 2009 8:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Mo's voice always weirds me out...very unexpected...it's like the anti-Mark Lemke
by bradleyjah on Dec 11, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
44-35 shots
shows what rebounding, steals and turn overs can do for a team
not to mention 14-9 in assists
When JJ gets 5 or more assists we are 9-1 - how joe is important on how he plays?
when he gets 4 or less we are 5-5
It's time for the Stinger to let it go.
It’s not gonna grow back.
by dstdeelite on Dec 11, 2009 8:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
not to talk about the current rival
But when did Cleveland get blue jerseys? I love blue but they look hideous. don’t watch them so maybe I missed it
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 8:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
the cavs haven't been around that long( again I don't know them or their team history)
And I was saying to my self how can they be retro?
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 8:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Shaq got shaqed by joel and then shaq knocked him down lol
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
y'all remember the nintendo game double dribble?
philips should play an explosion every time the hawks shoot a three
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
philips really needs to step up. i’m late to the chat so i don’t know if this has been covered, but if toronto can fill up with that team, we need to do better here.
most definitely
but the hawk fans coning to see the hawks are few
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
The fade in the corner was money!
And I ALWAYS got perfect in the 3-point contest in the arcade version!
gotta drain those open shots!
Come on hawks
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 8:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Horf for the three point competition.
Start a petition!
by Duff_Man on Dec 11, 2009 8:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
when we go to him he is the best player on team highest fg% - you would think ...............
why vent – guards have to jack up shots
this lead should be twenty
Crawford and jj in puts me at ease. put him in woody
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 8:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
any wagers that joe will pass up a jumper
to drive to the bucket this game?
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
What is the non-Westhead record for points allowed?
Take out those Nuggets teams…the Raptors have to be flirting with a high number here.
ouch! I liked to break my toe
Cheering for that 3
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 8:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The Raptors must have paid the $15 extra
Because the Hawks are just taking a leak on them.
by Duff_Man on Dec 11, 2009 8:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I have a strong urge to link to a R. Kelly video
(or the SNL skit)
The way this game is heading
we’re going to get to see Jason and Randolph. We need that nickname guys!!!! What’s it gonna be?
alrighty
raptors whipping is overdue
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 8:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
My nickname for Al Horford.
My roommate used to keep calling him Al Roker by accident. So one night, I just started yelling GO WEATHERMAN. And it stuck.
come on teague
Go Crawford! good ball movement
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 8:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Ooooh Portland up on Cleveland
We could be moving to 3rd for a while in the rankings
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 8:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions
from what I glimpsed shaq is sloppy
Very sloppy
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 9:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
that was down!
Josh is really focused on his Freethrows. I hope he becomes an allstar because so far this season, he deserves it
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 8:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
GTM maybe?
I'll Have A Matty Ice Please.
by IllHaveAMattyIcePlease on Dec 11, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions
I know it's been some suspect opponents,...
but could Woody finally be learning to play Teague? Pretty please, with a cherry on top.
Canada hates us now
The boos are on tonight
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 9:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Are you shouting Boo, or Boo-urns?
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 11, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You know it's over when Bob is talking Toronto hockey and CFL
by bradleyjah on Dec 11, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
"Just smile and look pretty, Nique"
“I thought that’s what Bob’s for. After all, look at this hair.”
“Good point, you’re fired.”
“Wait, let me start over.”
teague is developing nicely
Now what happened wit acie!
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 9:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
no friggin idea - why Woody gets bad coaching comments -
by RivBoatGambler on Dec 11, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
he always keep one starter in unless he absolutely has to pull him
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
No backcourt depth
It’s either Jamal Crawford, or one of the starters, else we don’t have enough guards.
why is smooth in?
Othello and double helpings where art thou
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 9:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
JT doing his best Rondo impression
10 points, 7 assists, 3 steals, 1 turnover, shooting 5-6. In just 18 minutes.
GTM!
I'll Have A Matty Ice Please.
by IllHaveAMattyIcePlease on Dec 11, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions
Othello:
“I finally got in the game, but this fan kept saying crazy things about my wife. Says his name was Iago-I should check in on her later…”
by Bronn on Dec 11, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
alright bench emptied
Earlier would have been better though woody
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 9:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Math fail...
we completely flubbed the over. Damn alcohol, what number drink is this? You win again Vegas, you win again.
by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 11, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Guess he wanted to save the bench
Because, for the most part, they outplayed the starters.
Thanks Bob.
We need consensus!
Victory cigar vs. Happy Meal is consuming my brain.
Both sound like race horses.
For some reason it just doesn't sound like a duo
For some reason, Victory Cigar does to me, and obviously Happy Meal implies some sort of combination
He got like, max 3 inches of lift on his jumpshot
by dmortone on Dec 11, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
More like an alley-opps!
amiright?
Is this thing on?
by Duff_Man on Dec 11, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I proudly laughed out loud at this...awesome
by bradleyjah on Dec 11, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But "Football in the Groin" had a football in the groin...

by Duff_Man on Dec 11, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
OH man
i wish i remembered the episode where he sees Mr Burns and gets confused for the lucky charms guy and Burns wants his luck and Moleman says “oh no my brains”
and the same episode as Boo/Boo-urns, beautiful...
also packed with one of the greatest bits in the Simpsons.
“Mr. Gumbel, this is a Girl Scout meeting.”
“Is it, or is it that you girls can’t admit that you have a problem?”
Dang they booeinng their own team
Killer block too little too late
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 9:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
who's that dude with the turbin hugging woody?
I'll Have A Matty Ice Please.
by IllHaveAMattyIcePlease on Dec 11, 2009 9:20 PM EST reply actions
great game hawks!
Good defense and offense tonight nice decrease of mins tonight woody and usage of the bench. Let’s keep it goin hawks!
by Hawksgirl on Dec 11, 2009 9:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Great game for Teague.
I’m watching the Orlando-Phoenix game and Nash is eating them alive—no Jameer Nelson is painful against someone like that. I hope Teague’s role increases so the Hawks can use him next time against the Magic ’cause they will not have an answer for him.
Great job by the Hawks and Woody in getting him in. And he looks good!

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