Atlanta Hawks 125, Denver Nuggets 100 or 82 games for a reason.
by hawksdawgs on Nov 7, 2009 10:36 PM EST
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I will be the first to admit it. Joe Johnson is better at basketball than me. Not only that, guy has played more recently. So I don't feel that bad admitting that, at least for one game, Joe Johnson knows more about basketball than me.
30 assists. That was the response to Joe Johnson's critique of selfishness. Which is slightly more powerful than my 30 sentence critique. Who knows how much the first two were related, but we can be certain the three were not. I don't like Joe's post game style, but I certainly can admit it worked tonight.
The Hawks dominated. Period. End of story. No "and" or "buts." This was the anti Bobcats game, which is exactly what you want after a Bobcats game. A response. A game that says we were not what we were last night and we can be what we were tonight. It is why an 82 game season is long, and it is why an 82 game season is great. Don't freak out. Don't buy championship tickets. But hold on, this team can compete.
More tomorrow about why good Josh Smith is really awesome Josh Smith and the national media sucks.
Go Hawks!
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u were there hawksdawg? how was the crowd if so?
I will be there when chris paul comes to town. but the game was interresting and i was baffled when i saw smith block six shots! that was insane. but, now im more worried about the boston game and whether we could be the streak busters we were last season. Does have a good ring to it……
by Hawksgirl on Nov 7, 2009 11:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I decided to go to the game after all
I must say that this was the most boring game that I’ve ever been to even though we dominated from the beginning to the end. The refs made this game almost unbearable. There wasn’t a good flow to the game because of all the whistles. On a sidenote, I may be crazy, but does anybody else get the vibe that JJ doesn’t like sharing the ball with JC in particular? Please tell me I’m crazy. I saw JC wide open on SEVERAL occasions and JJ didn’t pass it to him. Even with the inbound pass, he gave the ball to Bibby who in turn gave the ball to JC. It is very weird. Everybody should check their ego at the door. I thought he’d be happy with some offensive help. That way he wouldn’t have to work so hard. We saw the Celtics made it work. Three All-Stars on one team surely couldn’t work. At least that’s what everybody thought. But clearly they were working towards a common goal. They preached about unselfishness and it wasn’t just rhetoric. I sure hope I’m reading too much into this. I never pegged JJ for being an egomaniac. If he leaves next summer like everybody thinks he will, he should be happy they’re winning games. It looks great on his resume. In the media, he still gets all the accolades even if he’s not the highest scorer.
i think before
we were a really bad team and Joe had to carry the team all the time. Now were a pretty complete team and Joe doesn’t have to carry the load but doesn’t get the recognition of bein the best player on a good team. i am just saying Joe probably wants to be the guy on this team and JC had come in and given the team a big boost and it don’t sit to well with Joe
If Joe wants to be "the man"...
he can go back to being a loser. If he wants to be a winner, he has to accept it will need to be on a more complete TEAM that doesn’t have to rely on him to win.
I believe it
JJ seems like a totally different person this year. He’s got a terrible attitude to start the year and like someone on here mentioned earlier tonight, he may just be looking for a reason to complain and leave after the season. He has complained after almost every game. He complains we don’t share the ball, he complains we are immature, he complains that people need to learn what their game is. If anything he needs to be saying these things to himself. AND also if he has a problem with the team he needs to tell it to the team instead of speaking through the media. It just makes him look bad…. Last night JJ was upset that nobody passed the ball in the Charlotte game and then he had 1 assist in that game. He talks about people needing to grow up, he needs to grow up and stop stirring up trouble through the media. Be a leader and a man and say it to these players faces. Lastly, he talks about people needing to learn what their game is. He needs to realize if he wants to be a superstar, like he thinks he is, then you do whatever it takes to win. When you team is getting pounded, you demand the ball and do something about it. Jamal Crawford has been great and I have definitely noticed him getting a little upset about Jamal leading the team in scoring. He’s afraid it’s gonna hurt his chances of getting big MONEY at the end of the year. It was stupid to turn down 60mil for 4 years anyway.
by BravesFanScout on Nov 8, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions
Bad attitude?
After each loss JJ has made it a point to say something. So what? If we have a guy who thinks we can win every game and we don’t say something. And when he called everyone selfish, he did say we and not them (one thing about the fact JJ had 1 assist against Charlotte. Could JJ have meant he when he kicks the ball out from a double team and the player he passes to shoots instead of making the extra pass?), and as a result the ENTIRE team responded right? That’s what leaders do right? Get his teammates to play better by any means necessary. By saying that JJ has a bad attitude is a reach. A bad attitude is what A.I. is doing in Memphis.
by xavip on Nov 8, 2009 8:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
A bad attitude is what A.I. is doing in Memphis.
Point well taken.
by RivBoatGambler on Nov 8, 2009 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
I just don’t agree with calling your own team out through the media. If you’ve got a problem with what is going on let it be known within the locker room. All this talking through the media is just going to get things stirred up. I just don’t like the way he’s going about it…. And what AI’ doing isn’t just a bad attitude it’s called being a senile idiot
by BravesFanScout on Nov 8, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
JJ Leadership
JJ is just acting like the alpha dog he is. He see’s his big piece of meat being sliced and trimmed to be fed to the rest of the team. As all Alfa dogs do – they dream of even more meat, sometimes they turn away a chunk to look for a more choice cut later. Then one day the big dog wakes up and realizes that life is not a dream and the dogs he guides are chewing on the other end of the bone. The first reaction is to howl at the moon while the pack licks their chops.
Will he look over his shoulder, snapping and snarling, or be the first to accept the leather harness and put his shoulder in it. Thats what the best Alfa dogs do.
by RivBoatGambler on Nov 8, 2009 8:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Starters
Jamal and JJ will get their minutes. I like Crawford coming off the bench like Chill and then Flip did. We need that offensive off the bench. Maybe after 40-50 games I would like to see Teague get a chance of starting to speed up the offence. Assuming he blends in a little better and controls his jumpers.
by RivBoatGambler on Nov 8, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
Good Smooth...
the most impressive thing so far has been his passing (cause his rebounding has been piss poor). But assist nights of 8, 7, 4, and 7 are pretty impressive and a good sign that the team is really moving the ball well.
misunderstood
I like jj voicing his opinions but because he doesnt voice it usually he gives off the wrong vibe. But i dont believe he is trying to call out anyone, just the team in particular including himself. He is trying to be the leader evryone wants him but now he is being critisized for attempting to do just that………….
by Hawksgirl on Nov 8, 2009 11:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions
JJ
is tryin to get his stats up to get a big fat contract this year he is one of the older guys out there this is prob gonna be the last time he can make the big bucks
Say it aint SO Joe !!
But it is so! So Joe should keep reminding everyone that should listen when selfish play rears it’s ugly head. So that’s his job as a team leader right ! So what if someone’s feelings get hurt. So what happens the next night? 125-100 !? …ahhhhhhh! it is SO.
" MR.24 "
So are we all in agreement that
as Josh goes so do the Atlanta Hawks? If he’d only recognize that we’d be dangerous. Back to JJ…. I’ve always defended him and I don’t mind him calling his team out, but to me you have to be putting up major numbers in order to call out someone else. When I look at the elite players, I see players who put up major numbers but still do not throw anyone under the bus in the media. I’ll assume they handle all of that in house. We’ve complained in the past that he needed to garner a voice, now that he has one, we want to censor what comes out of his mouth. I just don’t want him to get into a pissing contest with JC. From first glance, it appears JC is only trying to win games. The guy has never made the playoffs for God’s sake! I don’t think the Hawks organization is trying to replace JJ. If anything, Bibby is the one who should be worried.
by dstdeelite on Nov 8, 2009 1:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
So are we all in agreement that
as Josh goes so do the Atlanta Hawks?
It is if we want a higher seed and a better record.
but to me you have to be putting up major numbers in order to call out someone else
Please don’t tell JJ that. He shoots to much already. Iso ego is out and team play is in. Points are not the only way to lead. How about defense, assists and rebounds. Crawford should be the pt’s leader. It just comes easier for him. Offensive flow and team play is the most important while playing under control and within themselves.
by RivBoatGambler on Nov 8, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
From here on out
Let’s refer to good Josh as Smoove and bad Josh as simply Josh.
by dstdeelite on Nov 8, 2009 1:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
that Denver score is what should have happened against charolite
how they even won I’ll never know
I can't believe I had to miss it.
In the morning, I saw the Josh Smith post-game interview. They asked him about the JJ statements and Josh said he didn’t hear about them.He then said that it should have been handled internally.
Interesting.
Missed statement
I hope the win takes the sting out of the JJ comments. Three days to stew or come together. Did anyone notice JJ not passing to Crawford at times? We need another win before taking on the Celtics. We do not need chemistry problems now.
Josh ain’t gonna like those comments from JJ.
by RivBoatGambler on Nov 8, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
That worries me....
With the celtics coming up ( cant forget about the knicks either) we cant have any chemistry problems. I hope the team doesnt have to find out through media because thats gonna look bad on jjs part if he`s not talking to his teammates about these problems
by Hawksgirl on Nov 9, 2009 9:10 AM EST via mobile reply actions
If we can't beat the Knicks...
we can go ahead and give up the top 3 seed and making it past round 1 talk.
It's like a cosmic law
And the answer is because it’s the most likely to be seen and noticed. Try being more shady and comment in the middle of the thread maybe? Haha.
"This is America, if we can’t self-righteously look down on others and blame them for our faults, the commies win."-----Cormican on Bleeding Green Nation w/r/t fans overreacting to the Eagles signing of Michael Vick
I think it's more the comment thing is already waiting at the end...
and it fools my pea brain into thinking I’ve already hit reply.
i think
the only one’s worrying about JJ’s comments are the bloggers.
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
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