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Preview and Game Thread #13: Houston Rockets @ Atlanta Hawks

Houston Rockets at Atlanta Hawks, Nov 20, 2009 7:30 PM EST


Atlanta Hawks 09-10 Season Game  #13

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7-5
10-2
Philips Arena
Nov. 20th, 2009, 7:30 PM
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Probable starters:
Aaron Brooks
PG Mike Bibby
Shane Battier
SG Joe Johnson
Trevor Ariza
SF Marvin Williams
Luis Scola
PF Josh Smith
Chuck Hayes
C Al Horford

 

Hawks Injury Report: None.

Rockets Injury Report: Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady are out. Tracy is sitting with hurt feelings too. 

Blogging With the Enemy: The Dream Shake

Predicted bane of the Hawks existence: David Anderson. It would be only right.

Game Preview:

Houston is one of the surprise teams of the NBA. They are without their two best players due to injury and lost Ron Artest in the off season, yet are still beating and playing with some of the best teams in the league. But to be honest, I don't find it all that shocking. One of their stars in always hurt, check that both of their stars are always hurt and one of them has shown the team routinely plays well without him. Basically, they lost one superstar but still have the an all hustle, team oriented group left. Throw in Rick Adelman and replace Artest with Ariza, and a 7-5 record is not all that crazy. The Rockets are going to play hard every night, and Adelman has them playing a team game on offense. Combine all the factors and they can destroy the Lakers with pretty normal play and lose to the Kings the same way. Basically, you must show up against Houston and perform well, but you also do not need to worry your best is not good enough. Considering teams don't bring their best all the time, I expect the Rockets to continue play above .500 for most of the season.

Keys to the game:

  1. Make Trevor Ariza take tough shots. He is only shooting 39% this year. Keep Ariza out of the paint and force him to make jumpers with a Hawk in his face. Basically, make him earn his new contract on things that are not wide open threes and dunks.
  2. Joe Johnson not pressing. Joe is methodical. That is not a bad thing. He has great body control, an ability to create space, and superb touch around the basket. And it allows him to slow things down and work through the lane in the same way over and over again. I will assume Shane Battier not only knows this but plans to be certain spots much faster than other defenders. If Joe gets cut off from his routine, he cannot press and take bad shots or pick up offensive fouls. The Hawks are the better team with or without Joe scoring 25.
  3. Good Josh Smith. I used to watch Luis Scola and say "if only Josh played with his energy...." Well, Josh has been, and he will need to continue to do so tonight because you can bet Scola will come with his usual hustle and annoyance. 

Comment of the Heat game thread with 4 recs  goes to eyy. Following an odd heave by Joe Johnson,

"I thought it was a bad shot, but it was just a heat check. Thankfully."

See you in part, if not all, of tonight's thread.

Go Hawks!

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Scene--Phillips Arena, Shootaround...

Old Man Collins: Let’s do some tip drill. Can’t have you missin easy points like last game.
McSmiles: Aw man, you know we ain’t playin tonight.
Old Man Collins: We might. We’re a lot better than the Rockets.
McSmiles: Shut up man, you know we ain’t playin.
Old Man Collins: I know, I know. So what you wanna play tonight?
McSmiles: I don’t know, we never finished 20 questions Wednesday.
Old Man Collins: It was Ennis Whatley. That game sucks anyway.
McSmiles: We could just watch the game.
Old Man Collins: Quit messin around.
McSmiles: Why do I always gotta choose? Man, my tummy is hurtin. Why’d we have to eat Chinese food, I wanted some Fat Matt’s.
Old Man Collins: Cause I’m older than you fat boy. Gosh.
McSmiles: [giggles}
Old Man Collins: What?
McSmiles: Gosh. Nice one Stanford.
Old Man Collins: Quit stallin, what are we gonna do?
McSmiles: How bout I spy?
Old Man Collins: Yeah, I love that game.
McSmiles: I’m gonna win this time.
Old Man Collins: Mmmhmm. I’m getting my ankles taped. You comin?
McSmiles: Fool you know we ain’t playin. Besides, I gotta go potty. My tummy is hurtin bad.

by Mr. Sanchez on Nov 20, 2009 4:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I like the part where he giggles.

It’s hard to imagine what a smile-less giggle looks like.

by eyy on Nov 20, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was serious.

It is difficult for this idea to not be funny to me regardless of execution. I also like the detail in Ennis Whatley.

by eyy on Nov 20, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Do not get mad - funny post.

My theory for Josh Smith’s improvement: imagine a near-empty locker room, Josh Smith is sitting at his locker when Jamal Crawford walks in, an angry scowl on his face.

JC: I see you took five threes today.
JS: Yeah, so? I do it all the time.
JC: But you only made one.
JS: That’s just my game, man.
JC: [grabbing Smith by the collar] Look here sonny, I got to where I am today by jacking up ill-advised threes. That’s who I am. I’ve even changed my name legally to Jamal Ill-Advised Three Crawford. There’s only room on this team for one ill-advised three-point shooter, and by God it’s going to be me.
JS: Chill out, man. I guess I’ll just try to get attention some other way. Blocking shots or something. Rebounding. We’ll work it out. I know bad threes are your thing.

by RivBoatGambler on Nov 20, 2009 6:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

my new favorite hawks fan is sara

after saying the difference for the Hawks was Joe’s play, Sara brought truth in the JA Adande chat.

To his credit, JA took the question. To his discredit, he did not admit his mistake which I assume means he beyond oblivious.

Sara (Atlanta )
Um, J.A., you obviously do not watch many Hawk games. Joe is doing what Joe has been doing the last 4 years. The difference in the Hawks is that Josh Smith and Al Horford are playing at an elite level, and Jamal Crawford is a threat off the bench. I still worry that the Hawks do not have enough size to match up with Orlando, Cleveland and L.A.

J.A. Adande
  (4:01 PM)

I was keeping track last year, when the Hawks had a stretch of four losses in 5 games and Joe had nights of 13 points, 14, 11 and 11 in there. Superstars don’t let that happen. Neither has Johnson so far this year.

by hawksdawgs on Nov 20, 2009 6:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It's good to be on top.

Pull off back to back wins tonight and tomorrow, (remaining holdouts include FoxSports and SI) and we should be on top in all of them next week. We’re look to expand our to record to a new franchise high of 2 weeks in all the others.

I know it’s way too early to be scoreboard watching, but who do we want to lose tonight when Boston plays Orlando? Personally, Orlando scares me a bit more, so I wouldn’t mind seeing them dropping a few games.

by Bronn on Nov 20, 2009 6:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i hate boston so much more

but i will root for Orlando to lose until April.

by hawksdawgs on Nov 20, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not concerned much with either...

Boston is old. We’re more athletic, and match up just fine with them. If they can stay intact through the season, I still think we can beat them.

As for Orlando, I wonder if they have continuity issues. Hedo is gone and not really replaced as a facilitator. They have no backup PG and now Jameer Nelson will be out for a while. Vince Carter is injury prone and possible to miss game. Mickael Pietrus is in need of surgery at some point. Reshard Lewis missed the first 10 games bringing into question whether they ever have a full compliment of players.

I’m not concerned much with either, provided the Hawks can bring their A game.

by Mr. Sanchez on Nov 20, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

JJ vs. Shelden

Hmm conflict. I’d say let’s go Magic. Orlando is bound to drop a few while Jameer is out.

by coachkcastellon on Nov 20, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bob hair

just another reason to watch Hawks basketball

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nique with the analysis.

So let’s hit the boards and be efficient. Sounds good to me.

by eyy on Nov 20, 2009 7:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wet spot on the floor.

Scola wrung out his hair.

by Duff_Man on Nov 20, 2009 7:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ugh Smoove

missing free throws come on

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 7:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

hmmmmm

They are okay. jus gotta get the boards

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 7:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Horf

is on fire right now makin jump shots

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 7:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

well

I need some better defense.

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 7:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I love knowing that

if the ball is above the rim for more than a second, someone is going to dunk it. It’s a warm feeling.

by Buzzsaw on Nov 20, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Marvn...

Looks like he’s playing with a lot more confidence tonight…very active on the boards

by bradleyjah on Nov 20, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Little slow on the commenting

Anyone else catch the Josh Smith to Bibby alley-oop attempt…again? That’s like 3 straight games they’ve tried it, and it’s failed.

Eventually they’re going to have to stop with that.

by Bronn on Nov 20, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

nice smoove

Good pass by marv

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 7:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Again...

I say…Marvin is looking very confident tonight

by bradleyjah on Nov 20, 2009 7:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yay

a lead im so happy

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 7:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Scola

ugh i hate you

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 7:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Marvin is on

Fire or Smoove territory

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 7:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

alright marv!

Back in the groove

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 7:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Marv is playing very sexy right now

I wish I were one of his ladies of the night

by coachkcastellon on Nov 20, 2009 8:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Marvin has 5 boards too.

I guess we can expect 40+ and 20. After all, he’s on pace.

by eyy on Nov 20, 2009 8:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Indeed.

Also: in an alternative universe, Josh Howard averages a 4/20

by eyy on Nov 20, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

omg guard them!

Scola killin us double him

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 8:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

jj is usually my main man

But marv is on fire!

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 8:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I think we may have figured this out.

No Scola inside, no Ariza or rooks outside. Don’t double off these dudes.

by Duff_Man on Nov 20, 2009 8:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think

Marv’s ’stache was just unbalanced…he clearly put a little Rogaine on the thinner side…and we can see the resutls!

by bradleyjah on Nov 20, 2009 8:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Even thought Budinger was an all american volleyball player

If a volleyball match broke out at Phillips, I’m pretty sure we’d absolutely dominate.

by Buzzsaw on Nov 20, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

o yea

Jj is unpredictable but normal at the same time

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 8:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

come on hawks

Pass it and here is the passer

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 8:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Get that pathetic beard outta here David Andersen.

Now I understand why we couldn’t use him.

by eyy on Nov 20, 2009 8:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Half-beards are acceptable if they are of the shadow variety.

None of this weak “I can only grow this much” nonsense.

by eyy on Nov 20, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely...

I always assumed half-beard and goatee were the same…but then again, that’s probably the reason I don’t play for the Hawks

by bradleyjah on Nov 20, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this rocket team seems less

Dangerous to me.

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 8:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Smoove block

and ugh offensive foul crappy call

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 8:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Woody is preemptively sitting him so he won't have to sit him on his 3rd

It’s like when my coaches would sit me for whole games to keep me from picking up those 1st and 2nd fouls….

by bradleyjah on Nov 20, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Josh:

how are dare you get 2 fouls.

by eyy on Nov 20, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

jj

Marv too

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 8:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

When he's hot he's hot

So is Joe getting fouled or is Battier playing true defense?

by coachkcastellon on Nov 20, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

come on guys

Get away with a lead……….marv!

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 8:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

I had no idea his middle name was Gaye.

by eyy on Nov 20, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

but they just won't go away...

maybe our world famous fourth quarter defense will make this one out of reach

by Mr. Sanchez on Nov 20, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Josh playing a not-so-good 1st half is the difference.

I knew Joe was in for a long one with Battier on him.

by coachkcastellon on Nov 20, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

jj dribbling is good

But bad when we have an open man

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 8:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

ugh!

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 9:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Rockets beating us in our game to some extent

Points in the paint and second chance points. Good time for Marvin to have a comeback night…it’d be nice if JJ could pick it up, too.

by Bronn on Nov 20, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

marv!

Still on fire outside the line. picked up where he left off last year

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 9:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

This is so annoying

every time we are about to blow it out a ball bounces Houston’s way

by Fred Pen on Nov 20, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

this is a weird game

I know were leading but how were keeping it remains a mystery with all the missed shots and lack of offensive rebounds but the defense isnt that bad

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 9:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

come on hawks!

Show 4th quarter presense

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 9:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

This is the equivalent of playing a pusher in tennis

just lob the ball back over and over, no pace, no serve

by Fred Pen on Nov 20, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ugh Josh

with 5 crap that was such a horrible call

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 9:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

omg

All those blocks

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 9:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

And calls.

But this is not a garbage team. Effort is underrated in the NBA; all of their games are like this. I kind of feel like we’re getting some payback for our good luck in the Portland game.

by eyy on Nov 20, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They do not have a player who would start for any of the top 4 in the East or West

maybe Brooks, but that is it. They are playing way over their heads.

Chuck Hayes and Scola are garbage, and I will stand by that.

by Fred Pen on Nov 20, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

josh has a right to be pissed

If he gets a t so be it cause the refs are being unreasonable…..but i take that back. they have to play through these problems

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 9:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

UGH

looking like bad Hawks teams that couldnt hit free throws

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 9:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Carl Landy is attempting to put up a very Zaza double-double

Lots of shooting, lots of missed shots, and lots of rebounding his own misses.

by Bronn on Nov 20, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Marvin

with a big basket

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 9:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Al

ties the game up

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 9:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

JC

with a steal

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

alright

Were in business now…….

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 9:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

JJ isn't shooting it good

but atleast he is makin his free throws

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 9:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Marvin

Wow. Just absurd.

by eyy on Nov 20, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

MARVIN

IS DA MAN TONIGHT

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

WHOO

this is our Hawks team

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This will be an underrated win at the end of the year.

Nothing seemed to be going right about 5 minutes ago. Refs, loose balls, Josh going postal, etc.

by JJDawg on Nov 20, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

JC for 3

hitting big shots tonight

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 9:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Josh Smith the latest victim

of Woodson subbing out with 5 fouls and never putting him back in. It didn’t really matter since the Hawks went on a run, but it could have been the story.

by Bronn on Nov 20, 2009 9:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Playing devil's advocate

Woody could have just been concern with Smoove tackling an official if he called that 6th foul on him.

by JJDawg on Nov 20, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Marvin

was fighting for that ball loved that

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

why give Joe the ball

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

omg

Close them out no o.t. pleeeease

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 9:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

one bucket

that’s all we need

by dstdeelite on Nov 20, 2009 9:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Horf

made one atleast needed that one

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 9:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gotta love that Bibby dance.

Let’s see it again tonight.

by eyy on Nov 20, 2009 9:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

YES

i remember the Bibby dance it was awesome

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 9:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ah, there was Josh

But nowhere near the play.

by Bronn on Nov 20, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

omg

Dejavue

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 9:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Well, all this stress will be worth it

If it ends in the Bibby dance.

by eyy on Nov 20, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This game is like seasickness...

just when you think it is over….

by Fred Pen on Nov 20, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Sneaky play

screen for marvin off the inbounds pass coming righ tup.

by Bronn on Nov 20, 2009 9:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

UGH

Bibby bad shot

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 9:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Smoove

back in for his D

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 9:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

dang

Al fouled out miss the free throws

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

No al if we go to overtime.

I say we score in the last 5

by eyy on Nov 20, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Damn bounces going right to them all night

that was not a pass by Scola, he just happened ot lose the ball right to this scrub

by Fred Pen on Nov 20, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

102-92 with 2:07

against a team with no good offensive players…not a good closeout

by Fred Pen on Nov 20, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

UGH

we got last shot lets win this game

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm

Anyone want to wager we’re not running a JJ iso here?

by Bronn on Nov 20, 2009 10:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

omg

SMOOTH! THE BUZZER

by Hawksgirl on Nov 20, 2009 10:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Woody:

“I knew he shouldn’t have played one more second than he did.”

by eyy on Nov 20, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Smooth for MVP?

Woody knew what he was doing

by Fred Pen on Nov 20, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

YESSS

OMG DID I JUST SEE THAT A SMOOVE GAME WINNING REBOUND

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The funny thing is

That’s exactly how that play was drawn up. Try to force the ball to JJ, fail, work it to Bibby, who drives in against a double team, throws up a shot against two defenders, misses on purpose, and Josh Smith crashes in for the game-winning basket.

Trust me. Woodson is actually some kinda play-calling Savant.

by Bronn on Nov 20, 2009 10:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It's our year folks!!!!!!!!!!

We got to lead off SportsCenter tonight don’t ya think?

Smoove – MVP
Woody – COY
Jamal – 6thOY

by xavip on Nov 20, 2009 10:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Jason Collins

is my hero doesn’t do anything but collects paychecks i could do that

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 10:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Man

thats not fair i wish i could make the team without trying out

by Erihury on Nov 20, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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