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Preview and Game Thread #10: New Orleans Hornets @ Atlanta Hawks

New Orleans Hornets at Atlanta Hawks, Nov 14, 2009 7:00 PM EST


Atlanta Hawks 09-10 Season Game  #10

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Philips Arena
Nov. 14th, 2009, 7:00 PM
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Probable starters:
Chris Paul
PG Mike Bibby
Devin Brown
SG Joe Johnson
Peja Stojakovic
SF Marvin Williams
David West
PF Josh Smith
Emeka Okafor
C Al Horford

 

Hawks Injury Report: None.

Hornets Injury Report: David West has a hurt knee. As of this writing (Friday night), I think he will play. Chris Paul is now out.

Blogging With the Enemy: At the Hive

Predicted bane of the Hawks existence: CP3 David West.

Game Preview:

Don't let CP3 beat you. And I mean him literally beating us, like just him against all five Hawks for four quarters.. Don't let that happen. No let down.

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Nov 2009 from At The Hive - 29 comments

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No letdowns.

But I fear this game thread may be. HawksDawgs is doing patronage with the second part of his name today, which leaves the rest of us to carry the game thread.

Early thoughts: You’d think this would be a cinch without Chris Paul, at home, but the Hawks can be alarmingly uneven. As bad as New Orleans was last night, and losing CP3 in the third quarter…they still only lost by 8 points to a good Trailblazers team. This isn’t a game I expect to lose, but they do have players capable of hurting us.

Darren Collison might fill in for Chris Paul-he’s no Chris Paul, obviously, but he’s quick and has solid handles, so he’ll naturally give Bibby problems. David West and Emeka Okafor can give anyone problems in the frontcourt if their on top of their game. And between Peja, MoPete, and James Posey, they’ve got someone capable of getting hot from three, which always ruins your night.

I expect that Bibby will get some rest today, and we’ll see Jamal Crawford get a lot of minutes, and Mo Evans should play a bit more as well.

by Bronn on Nov 14, 2009 5:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

whoo

no letdown tonight lets get uz some wins

by Erihury on Nov 14, 2009 6:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I am here.

Hopefully we have a good turnout. College football sucks. Watch NBA.

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 6:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bobs hair in HD

truly one of the greatest wonders in the world

by Erihury on Nov 14, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

1080i or 720p

It is truly the 8th Wonder.

Apologies to Sugar Hill Gang.

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Darren Collison getting the start.

Teague may get some good minutes tonight. At least he should.

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 7:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hey, leave me alone!

Corey Zickefoose: I think they should still be able to play football, regardless. Tennessee is my place. You know, it's my football team.

Reporter: Even after they put a gun in your face, you say let them play football?

Corey Zickefoose: Yeah. It's Tennessee. That's the way it is sometimes.

Welcome to the SEC!

by Jesse28 on Nov 14, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wow

some people must still be in awe of that win last night

by Erihury on Nov 14, 2009 7:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

One on Josh, One on Al

This is how I expected last night to start.

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 7:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

SMOOVE

attackin the basket sweet

by Erihury on Nov 14, 2009 7:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

GREAT play by Joe!

NEVER give up on a fast break.

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 7:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

well tonight

doesn’t look like a let down

by Erihury on Nov 14, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I won't be able to watch the game

because I’ll be judging a step show. Boo hoo. Please be as detailed as possible!! Go Hawks!!!!

by dstdeelite on Nov 14, 2009 7:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Duff

Just go watch Stomp The Yard. While extremely exaggerated, it’ll give you a good idea.

Corey Zickefoose: I think they should still be able to play football, regardless. Tennessee is my place. You know, it's my football team.

Reporter: Even after they put a gun in your face, you say let them play football?

Corey Zickefoose: Yeah. It's Tennessee. That's the way it is sometimes.

Welcome to the SEC!

by Jesse28 on Nov 14, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jesse28

Believe it or not, I was going to suggest the same thing. I can probably find a nice link on youtube or something.

by dstdeelite on Nov 14, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I was going to mention Hell Week at Morehouse, but figured that movie would be easier.

Here ya go Duff, watch this.

Corey Zickefoose: I think they should still be able to play football, regardless. Tennessee is my place. You know, it's my football team.

Reporter: Even after they put a gun in your face, you say let them play football?

Corey Zickefoose: Yeah. It's Tennessee. That's the way it is sometimes.

Welcome to the SEC!

by Jesse28 on Nov 14, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, you're cruel man

It’s a fraternity thing. Each one has a team and they have competitions. I wouldn’t go so far as to put it into the same category as cheerleading, but as far as the structure of it, I guess I could see that point of view.

Corey Zickefoose: I think they should still be able to play football, regardless. Tennessee is my place. You know, it's my football team.

Reporter: Even after they put a gun in your face, you say let them play football?

Corey Zickefoose: Yeah. It's Tennessee. That's the way it is sometimes.

Welcome to the SEC!

by Jesse28 on Nov 16, 2009 7:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wow

they had 2 shots at it and couldnt make it wow the hornets are playing bad

by Erihury on Nov 14, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

No...they stink.

Even with Paul they stunk.

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i was wondering why

they fired their coach i mean we haven’t fired woody yet

by Erihury on Nov 14, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

meh

NO is so far over the luxury threshold, money clearly is no problem for them. Or, that might be why their GM is now the Coach so they wouldn’t have to spend more money for a new coach.

Corey Zickefoose: I think they should still be able to play football, regardless. Tennessee is my place. You know, it's my football team.

Reporter: Even after they put a gun in your face, you say let them play football?

Corey Zickefoose: Yeah. It's Tennessee. That's the way it is sometimes.

Welcome to the SEC!

by Jesse28 on Nov 14, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Joe

is on fiya

by Erihury on Nov 14, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow. The Hornets are epic bad.

And thsat’s not a knock on anything the Hawks are doing. Maybe I am just not used to seeing our team as great.

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 7:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Crawford is looking at this game

Like Pacman after eating a Power Pellet.

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

whoo

JC JJ SMOOVE are on FIYA

by Erihury on Nov 14, 2009 7:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

well im back earlier from shopping, i made good time

Now, judging from what i have seen, who said jj ignores jamal on the court? or vice versa?

by Hawksgirl on Nov 14, 2009 7:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Tim Duncan has one

Hakeem might as well.

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, it was David Robinson.

Hakeem
Alvin Robertson
Nate Thurmond

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wow

Thats a lot of work put in

by Hawksgirl on Nov 14, 2009 7:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

come on

Zaza 3 fouls crap

by Erihury on Nov 14, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Marvin may not have the complete offense

But the guy is long and can board inside. I wish he could hit his stride.

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bibby

is playing like his job is on the line

by Erihury on Nov 14, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bibby looks like he is so much mor comfortable this year.

He’s minimizing his weaknesses and just playing to his strengths. Credit Woody so far as well for rotating him in and out at the right times.

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Whoo

all you can eat seats

by Erihury on Nov 14, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nique just said JJ is having a great half.

I wonder when bad passes and poor FT shooting became “great”?

by RamblininAlb on Nov 14, 2009 8:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

SMOOVE

omg we don’t have to call him Josh

by Erihury on Nov 14, 2009 8:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Smith's 10th board

AND A MARVIN JAM!!!!

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

MARVIN

with the MONSTER SLAMMMM

by Erihury on Nov 14, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Who are these guys?

and what did they do with my Hawks?

by RamblininAlb on Nov 14, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Two times for Al,

and a couple assist for Joe F Johnson, guess he showed me.

by RamblininAlb on Nov 14, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

First half synopsis:

Dunk, dunk, dunk, dunk, rebounds, dunk.

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 8:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

fill me in please

Doin way too much today

by Hawksgirl on Nov 14, 2009 8:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Hawks let NO back in

But it is obvious they are in control of the game.

Everyone playing well except Zaza.

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Zaza

is on the bench pumpin the team up on the bench

by Erihury on Nov 14, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

sounds good from comments

Has teague been okay

by Hawksgirl on Nov 14, 2009 8:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

He struggled a bit, but got 2 pts

He needs reps to get his game on the level.

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

omg

How can zaza not play well. wow. i know he is frustrated

by Hawksgirl on Nov 14, 2009 8:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Dominique's Above The Rim Keys

Is only highlighted by the fact that they used a shot from when he was sponsored by Brooks.

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 8:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wow!

Go ahead big men

by Hawksgirl on Nov 14, 2009 8:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

why josh

Smoove blocks

by Hawksgirl on Nov 14, 2009 8:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Is there any instance in the NBA

Where you’d trade Chandler for Okafor?

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yes

If your GM becomes your new head coach….

Corey Zickefoose: I think they should still be able to play football, regardless. Tennessee is my place. You know, it's my football team.

Reporter: Even after they put a gun in your face, you say let them play football?

Corey Zickefoose: Yeah. It's Tennessee. That's the way it is sometimes.

Welcome to the SEC!

by Jesse28 on Nov 14, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

marv

Come on

by Hawksgirl on Nov 14, 2009 8:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

hmmm. good question

Makes me think but nah. not in my mind for neither

by Hawksgirl on Nov 14, 2009 8:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

smoove

Smooth

by Hawksgirl on Nov 14, 2009 8:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Hawks shooting 50%, have like 15 offensive rebounds, and we’re still unsatisfied.

It’s been that kind of game.

by Bronn on Nov 14, 2009 8:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

holy

Jamal is jesus

by Hawksgirl on Nov 14, 2009 8:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

JJ cut baseline

And Josh made a backhanded bounce pass to him for an easy 2. It was really nice.

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

bibby

Is god

by Hawksgirl on Nov 14, 2009 8:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Been watching CFB all day, came in late

ANd GT men’s BB is playing FAMU right now as well, so my attention is split. Listening to Hawks on The Zone, watching Gamecast for GT, trying to comment in both SBN gamethreads…yay and I’m not even drinking.

Corey Zickefoose: I think they should still be able to play football, regardless. Tennessee is my place. You know, it's my football team.

Reporter: Even after they put a gun in your face, you say let them play football?

Corey Zickefoose: Yeah. It's Tennessee. That's the way it is sometimes.

Welcome to the SEC!

by Jesse28 on Nov 14, 2009 8:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm completely opposite on that

But I love all my ATL teams equally. I hate living away, but it makes it easier when deciding which games to attend, meaning I barely get to any at all.

Corey Zickefoose: I think they should still be able to play football, regardless. Tennessee is my place. You know, it's my football team.

Reporter: Even after they put a gun in your face, you say let them play football?

Corey Zickefoose: Yeah. It's Tennessee. That's the way it is sometimes.

Welcome to the SEC!

by Jesse28 on Nov 14, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was worried about this being a letdown game

Didn’t think this would end up being the game where JJ finally had a JJ game.

by Bronn on Nov 14, 2009 8:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Glad I’m not the only one seeing famous improv comedians where there are none.

by Bronn on Nov 14, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

smoove!

4th zaza wow.

by Hawksgirl on Nov 14, 2009 8:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Teague is fast

but he can’t outrun the charge.

by Bronn on Nov 14, 2009 8:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Crawford is sooooo much better than Flip.

He just can’t be stopped. Passing and shooting…he does both extremely well.

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 8:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

haha

Nelly just interviewed on TheZone. Guess he’s at the game.

Corey Zickefoose: I think they should still be able to play football, regardless. Tennessee is my place. You know, it's my football team.

Reporter: Even after they put a gun in your face, you say let them play football?

Corey Zickefoose: Yeah. It's Tennessee. That's the way it is sometimes.

Welcome to the SEC!

by Jesse28 on Nov 14, 2009 8:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What the hell?

That was magical.

by eyy on Nov 14, 2009 8:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nevermind.

Sorry…I forgot Jamal Crawford was a Greek god.

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 8:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Outlaw out indefinitely

Stress fracture in left foot

Corey Zickefoose: I think they should still be able to play football, regardless. Tennessee is my place. You know, it's my football team.

Reporter: Even after they put a gun in your face, you say let them play football?

Corey Zickefoose: Yeah. It's Tennessee. That's the way it is sometimes.

Welcome to the SEC!

by Jesse28 on Nov 14, 2009 8:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Joe Smith

Best non-stat all star

Corey Zickefoose: I think they should still be able to play football, regardless. Tennessee is my place. You know, it's my football team.

Reporter: Even after they put a gun in your face, you say let them play football?

Corey Zickefoose: Yeah. It's Tennessee. That's the way it is sometimes.

Welcome to the SEC!

by Jesse28 on Nov 14, 2009 8:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

teague is struggling

JJ might can spark his confidence if teague stays in. never mind, teague goes out

by Hawksgirl on Nov 14, 2009 8:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

ok, im out

Gotta watch the ugag game with the wiff. go hawks!

Corey Zickefoose: I think they should still be able to play football, regardless. Tennessee is my place. You know, it's my football team.

Reporter: Even after they put a gun in your face, you say let them play football?

Corey Zickefoose: Yeah. It's Tennessee. That's the way it is sometimes.

Welcome to the SEC!

by Jesse28 on Nov 14, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

jamal

Is no flip. he is an upgrade times 10

by Hawksgirl on Nov 14, 2009 9:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

wow

Jj on fire

by Hawksgirl on Nov 14, 2009 9:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

gotta go aswell

Great game tonight. I believe we will finish this one out. I have church in the morning too, so see ya monday with portland(again)

by Hawksgirl on Nov 14, 2009 9:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

With no Outlaw

Corey Zickefoose: I think they should still be able to play football, regardless. Tennessee is my place. You know, it's my football team.

Reporter: Even after they put a gun in your face, you say let them play football?

Corey Zickefoose: Yeah. It's Tennessee. That's the way it is sometimes.

Welcome to the SEC!

by Jesse28 on Nov 14, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Goodnight, sweet prince!!!

Bibby and Al are THE SANDMAN!

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 9:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Whoo

great game it’s not over but it seems like it is

by Erihury on Nov 14, 2009 9:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I am punching out.

Up 21 with 4 minutes to go. This was a whitewash the whole way.

Great win. No let-down!

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

McSmiles

is in now we can all go to sleep happy

by Erihury on Nov 14, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Randolph Morris finishes at +3

Ergo, he is a better basketball player than Jamal Crawford at +2.
The stats don’t lie.

by eyy on Nov 14, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not true

It only proves that the +/- stat is lame.

Corey Zickefoose: I think they should still be able to play football, regardless. Tennessee is my place. You know, it's my football team.

Reporter: Even after they put a gun in your face, you say let them play football?

Corey Zickefoose: Yeah. It's Tennessee. That's the way it is sometimes.

Welcome to the SEC!

by Jesse28 on Nov 14, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't even mean that

+/- definitely has its place. But the random game-to-game variation will never stop amusing me.

by eyy on Nov 15, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

true

But unfortunately some people like to throw +/- numbers around and leave it at that, like it’s some definitive measure of a players value on the court when it truly isn’t. In fact, using individual player +/- numbers without any context is probably the worst way to evaluate a player.

A better use of +/- is the five-man rotation +/- numbers. These allow you to truly see the value in players together at the same time on the court.

Corey Zickefoose: I think they should still be able to play football, regardless. Tennessee is my place. You know, it's my football team.

Reporter: Even after they put a gun in your face, you say let them play football?

Corey Zickefoose: Yeah. It's Tennessee. That's the way it is sometimes.

Welcome to the SEC!

by Jesse28 on Nov 15, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

McSmiles went in with 4 minutes to go.

That’s the ultimate blowout sign.

by Duff_Man on Nov 14, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

More Randmo minutes means a better chance of winning

My non-causational analysis says he should play more.
Woody, take note.

by eyy on Nov 14, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I concur

Corey Zickefoose: I think they should still be able to play football, regardless. Tennessee is my place. You know, it's my football team.

Reporter: Even after they put a gun in your face, you say let them play football?

Corey Zickefoose: Yeah. It's Tennessee. That's the way it is sometimes.

Welcome to the SEC!

by Jesse28 on Nov 14, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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