Preview and Game Thread #3: Atlanta Hawks @ Los Angeles Lakers
by hawksdawgs on Nov 1, 2009 2:50 PM EST
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Atlanta Hawks at Los Angeles Lakers, Nov 1, 2009 9:30 PM EST
| Atlanta Hawks 09-10 Season Game #3 | ||
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| Nov. 1st, 2009, 9:30 PM | ||
| Fox Sports South, Hawks Radio Network, NBA Audio League Pass | ||
| Probable starters: | ||
| Derek Fisher |
PG | Mike Bibby |
| Kobe Bryant |
SG | Joe Johnson |
| Ron Artest |
SF | Marvin Williams |
| Lamar Odom |
PF | Josh Smith |
| Pau Gasol |
C | Al Horford |
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Hawks Injury Report: None.
Lakers Injury Report: Pau Gasol is out.
Blogging With the Enemy: Silver Screen and Roll
Predicted bane of the Hawks existence: Ron Artest. There was a game two or so years ago when Artest was in Sacramento. He owned us, went to the free throw line about 100 times. Now, Ron desperately wants a breakout game. Be afraid, be very afraid.
Game Preview:
I have long thought, as long as Gasol or Andrew Bynum were out of the game, the Hawks actually matched up very well with the Lakers. And for at least the last four or five games, it seems one of those guys has always been out, and the Hawks have played well. Derek Fisher did not exploit Mike Bibby's defensive issues. Pre last year's tough guy Pau from the final, Horford always found great success banging inside. Joe Johnson seemed to rise to the occasion of playing against Kobe. The Lakers were always the better team, but the games were close. The past two years, the Hawks even grabbed a win each season.
While I am not a fan of the Ariza for Artest switch off, I do think it helps this match-up for the Lakers. Artest can give Kobe some reprieve against guarding Joe. All the quickness issues Ron now has guarding twos are not there because Joe drives to the basket slower than most people sleep walk. And guarding Artest, if he chooses to run his offense in the post, is going to be exceedingly challenging. Ron has lots of tricks and moves that I can see Marvin and Josh falling for straight to five fouls and 28 minute days.
5 Keys to the game:
- Hawks shoot more free throws. Atlanta has to be the more aggressive team. Period.
- Mike Bibby breaks out. He hates the Lakers. Might as well show it with a good game.
- No Black Mamba. I am fine with Kobe Bryant going for 28. Just not 40. Most people say that they are fine with a team's best player getting his and they will shut down the other guy. Kobe is not one of those guys. He will beat you by himself.
- Ball movement. The Hawks will probably go down big at some point this game. Just like first two, they cannot panic and deteriorate to out athleting the other guy in one on one basketball. If the team plays within themselves, they should have a chance to win in the fourth quarter. That is refreshing to write and mean it.
- Zaza gives his best minutes of this short season. We need his rebounds and we need his defensive annoyance focused squarely at Andrew Bynum.
The Lakers have clearly not come together yet as a team. When they do, they will be a top four team. Here is hoping the chemistry stays away for at least one more day.
See you in the game thread until I fall asleep on my couch.
Go Hawks!
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a bold prediction!
what will he need to get it?
i would give it to him in heartbeat with a double double in a win.
Not a good test for first road game
Lakers coming off a loss at home=an uphill climb for our beloved Hawks. I totally agree with the Hawks playing within their games. They don’t need to try to hit a homerun. When the Lakers make a run, they need to stay level headed and play their game. With the time change, let’s just hope I can stay awake long enough to witness. Go Hawks!!
I think
rolling back an hour is going to be rough for all of us
by marvin's ladies of the night on Nov 1, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
prediction.....
We’ll all be going to bed at halftime. Lakers win big
by marvin's ladies of the night on Nov 1, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions
I think we should all
boycott this blog if hawksdawgs doesnt stay awake for the whole game
by marvin's ladies of the night on Nov 1, 2009 8:56 PM EST reply actions
totally if i woke up today at 6am (stupid clock)
then hawksdawgs should to this is gonna be a long night
How are you going to make it
Tuesday or Weds when the game is on at 10????
by marvin's ladies of the night on Nov 1, 2009 8:58 PM EST reply actions
question, who would you rather have right now
on a three year contract, Pau Gasol or Andrew Bynum?
by hawksdawgs on Nov 1, 2009 9:11 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Pau...
I’m not sure if Bynum is ever gonna put it all together. Maybe for a season or two, but not over the long haul.
c'mon hawksdawgs
think of a more juicy question than that!
by marvin's ladies of the night on Nov 1, 2009 9:22 PM EST reply actions
tweets
is spirit the hawk going to be live-tweeting this game?
"tonight they face their first test of the season"
obviously Rathbun had not bought into the wizard hype.
do u think Bob Rathburns hair was
like that when he was born of if it was genetically engineered to look so awesome ?
and ignore the fact
that rec’ing post allows me to be lazy when i pick the comment of the game thread.
"how do you beat the reigning world champion?"
score more points than they do. that;’s what i say.
my fantasy team
would like to see joe stop boxing marvin out on the boards.
by jeherv on Nov 1, 2009 9:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
JJ with the dunk
Weird that there’s no parade that accompanies it.
And of course, it was two handed.
jump shot jump shot jump shot
Smoove has got to drive if we are going to stay in this
by marvin's ladies of the night on Nov 1, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions
even new and improved hustle josh
cannot make up for his jump shot. they always seem to lead to run out easy baskets to.
wow
never seen him like this.
by marvin's ladies of the night on Nov 1, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions
Bob Rathman
is at full wood
by marvin's ladies of the night on Nov 1, 2009 9:58 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
2 airballs!?!
Woody is the biggest buzzkill ever
by coachkcastellon on Nov 1, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions
False modesty from 'Nique
Not his favorite suit.
by Bronn on Nov 1, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
When the Lakers come to Phillips
I’m chanting MVP every time Zaza touches the ball.
by Bronn on Nov 1, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
ummm hawksdawgs....
how is your wife now, after that zaza drive?
Josh is as bad as Joe is good right now
by coachkcastellon on Nov 1, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
one foot inside a 3 point line
is not a good shot
by marvin's ladies of the night on Nov 1, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions
terrible coaching
woody just coached away our lead and momentum
by coachkcastellon on Nov 1, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Woody is disgusting me
and here I was thinking he’d be changing his ways and doing a good job this season
by coachkcastellon on Nov 1, 2009 10:08 PM EST reply actions
That was the worst timeout I’d ever seen
by coachkcastellon on Nov 1, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
It's tough on Woody
When EVERYBODY is horrible except for JJ. Tons of turnovers, poor rebounding, missing shots everywhere.
woah
sec gridiron live looks like it could be pure tv comedy gold
looks like one of the freaks from Bubble Boy.
Does anybody remember the movie The Goonies?
Mbenga looks like that sloth the kids find when they go into that house.
Got to admire tenacity from the Hawks
they’re finding new and innovative ways to turn the ball over, despite all the pressure to take care of it.
Ok
JJ was on fire…he’s been sitting now for almost 15 minutes-he could very well be ice cold by the time he gets back on the floor.
Golden St and New York can suck it...
it’s amazing what being on a winner can do for someone. Get you some JC. He needs a nickname.
by Mr. Sanchez on Nov 1, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"for almost nothing"
Combined minutes played for Acie Law and Speedy Claxton = 0
You know what Erihury, I concur.
got to at least play one minute.
Think how lopsided this move will feel after 82 games. It’s the franchises redemption for Steve Smith/Isia.R. Rider
Like that SportsCenter commercial
Where D-Wade is asking for some more CGI defenders to make his shots look harder.
looks like he's meshing pretty well...
so far. We were all clicking game one, so he steps in and keeps the ball moving to the open man. We have trouble scoring these last two games, and he comes in making. 6th man?
"al horford almost took out david beckham"
oh one can only dream of such a scenario….one can only dream
Vujacic cut his hair....
and I have no way to know who I hate anymore.
by Duff_Man on Nov 1, 2009 10:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Glad we took out Joe
now he’s cold and afraid to shoot
by marvin's ladies of the night on Nov 1, 2009 10:26 PM EST reply actions
Bibby great D on Kobe?????
am I asleep????
by marvin's ladies of the night on Nov 1, 2009 10:26 PM EST reply actions
"And when I drink a lone, I prefer to be by myself"...
why, praytell, have you not shared rules to said game?
Josh with his 6th jumpshot tonight
And ‘Nique thinks he’s uncomfortable.
He’s way, way, too comfortable.
by Bronn on Nov 1, 2009 10:30 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
And we're still close though...
hopefully he’ll be remembering what he should be doing in the second half.
on the road in la
close in the 4th is what you want. give me a chance to win.
that being said if the hawks have 25 turnovers and lose by 3, i am going to call it a wasted opportunity.
We're playing bad
but Joe went nuts early, and Kobe hasn’t taken over (yet?)
by coachkcastellon on Nov 1, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
JJ's first 9 minutes
18 points. He then sat for nearly 20 minutes, cooling off. In the 5 minutes since, just 1 point.
critical time in this game
We can either be down 10 or close by the half
by marvin's ladies of the night on Nov 1, 2009 10:36 PM EST reply actions
derek fisher has a headache this big
and it has excederin written all over it
by jeherv on Nov 1, 2009 10:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I don't know what that play was
It looked like a JJ iso, only people were running all over the place, and JJ didn’t try to score out of it.
it's not taking out david beckham
but it’s a hell of shot, al.
I think we need to see some Al and Zaza in the 2nd half
by marvin's ladies of the night on Nov 1, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions
but he had two fouls...
this book I got says he’s supposed to sit when he has two fouls in the first quarter.
Bad ending to the half
I blame Woodson
by coachkcastellon on Nov 1, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
remember when joe could not miss
that was awesome. i guess mo evan’s dad complained about his minutes at the team party.
Why is the defense so bad?
I’ve watched maybe 2 decent defensive quarters this season…I hope this doesn’t become a theme throughout the season.
Marvin Williams
But I know what you’re getting at.
Bibby/Jamal/Teague are all pretty bad-and at any point, at least one of them is on the floor.
And Josh struggles on stronger PFs...
as does Al at times. Zaza isn’t bad, but again not ideal height. Thanks for seeing the point though.
Not necessarily the last play
Just the way we were down 2 to down 6
by coachkcastellon on Nov 1, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
“in that first quarter, it looked like we were going to have a game for the ages” Hawks studio show. and then woody took joe out. sweet.
if this team is somehow
middling around or below .500 at the all star break, mid season “spark”. the question is who?
If "if" was a fifth, we'd all be drunk
And I totally am.
by Duff_Man on Nov 1, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If Woody can ever get Josh to play on the road like he plays at home
I’ll contribute myself to his extension
Why does Josh still think he can dribble?
by coachkcastellon on Nov 1, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions
We are screwed how did we just let that happen?
Laziness on both ends
by coachkcastellon on Nov 1, 2009 11:08 PM EST reply actions
Hawks need another way to create shots
JJ is looking at some tough defense and double teams-passing around the perimeter is not getting the job done. Someone needs to work at getting to the hole.
I say keep feeding Al.
The refs may accidentally whistle every once in a while
by coachkcastellon on Nov 1, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
We are getting HOSED.
I hate the refs right now. Even the LA fans know it. You can HEAR them groaning for the Hawks’ calls.
And now we are probably over the limit...
and they are shooting FTs. Nice work refs, smooth as the b in subtle.
aand could it be like Jose Canseco...
Tim Donaghy may be a scum bucket, but it was gonna take a scumbag to actually talk on the subject.
josh must have been raped trying to box out once
cause i can’t think of any other reason he absolutely refuses to do it
we are way to small wish we had
a big guy or someone with long arms like the lakers have a surplus of
Hmm
‘Nique can’t diagnose the problem.
1) Officiating is questionable at best
2) Hawks seem unprepared for the Lakers to contest possession of the ball
3) Hawks need more looks going toward the basket in general, and specifically from Josh Smith…also Marvin to a lesser extent.
Um, that was a Simpsons line?...
http://www.snpp.com/episodes/9F01.html
Reverend Lovejoy recites the commandment ``Keep holy the Sabbath day’’,
as Homer buys a crate of Duff and a box of cigars from the Kwik-E-Mart.
Homer notes that Apu isn’t in church, but Apu corrects him: He has a
shrine to Ganeesha in the employee lounge. Homer walks over to the
multi-armed elephant, ``Hey, Ganeesha. Wanna peanut?‘’
Please do not offer my god a peanut.
— Apu, ``Homer the Heretic’’
Homer makes some disparaging remarks regarding Apu’s choice of religion. [see line above except replace Duff man with Apu]
[angrily] Mr. Simpson, please pay for your purchases and get out and
[brightly] come again!
— Apu, ``Homer the Heretic’’
Well, considering the Lakers got like 20 fast break points that quarter
the Hawks actually played good defense to hold them to 34.
That’s about the extent of my ability to praise something.
that 3rd quarter is the ball game
at least Brad Lidge is collapsing I guess (my eyes couldn’t take the ugliness, and ears couldn’t take the “MVP”)
Jeff Teague doing a Mario West impression
In that, he’s doing some cosmetic work on the scoreboard in a big loss to the Lakers.
lets not get so down guys
its only the 3rd game there is plenty of time for Woody to get fired cuz we all know its always his fault now and forever
This game epitomeizes the Hawks we know and love
look outstanding and nearly the worst thing ever, in spurts.
Not gonna do it...
wouldn’t be prudent. Not gonna do it.
by Mr. Sanchez on Nov 1, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
watchin Josh take jumpers
during a pointless game still hurts so can someone tell Josh to STOP doing it
Whatever good stuff I said about Josh Smith in the first two games...
forget it. That was the worst of the old Josh last night.
Why can’t the kid play away from Philips?
That was horrible.
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