Training camp bullets.
by hawksdawgs on Oct 6, 2009 12:16 PM EDT
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- Training camp looks horribly boring. Meticulous practice. If you are not really into the Hawks, you would need to drink heavily to get through this look in. That being said I could not turn it off, and I was not drinking.
- Mike Woodson was big ten player of the year and only played 14 games. Wow.
- The first time Josh Smith looks interested is when he lays a pick on Woodson.
- Rick Sund on Jason Collins use "i don't want to say give up fouls" but....yea that is what he means.
- "Even Smooth can guard Pau Gasol." -Mike Woodson
- Sund made the point that Jamal Crawford has never had an identity like he will with the Hawks. Most bloggers think he has a very specific identity, but it would not be a reach for me to buy Sund's argument.
- The first look in on Woody mic'd up was 12 seconds of a blank stare. It was relatively awesome.
- Joe Smith and Eric Snow are both the youngest of seven children. NOW YOU KNOW!
- Zaza and Horford are excited to have bigs so they don't have to practice as much. Not because they are excited to play less in games. Or so says Eric Snow and so says me now too.
- Three man weaves remind people they need treatment on something or other.
- The one shot I saw Woody take he drilled.
- Practice either is no running or horrible, never stop running.
- Mike Bibby was accused of "court shaving."
- Joe Johnson's arms are cut. Meaning they look strong.
- Eric Snow says the biggest thing for Joe Johnson this year to go to the next level is the "trust factor." What can he do without the basketball? Eric Snow wants to be a coach right?
- Fast break drill. Josh defending, pretends to jump. Player floats the ball over a non-jumping Josh. "Come on Smooth!" Woodson. "What's he want me to do." Josh Smith. Long pause. "It was a good floater." Sigh.
- No one is scared of fouling.
- Garret Siler's free throw form is ugly. He shoot the ball from his shoulder blades.
- The Hawks were practicing showing on screens and not just switching. Which is awesome. Less awesome is Mike Woodson saying during the drill "I know you are going to switch but we are practicing this now."
- The first team roots heavily against the second team. Which Mario West is on.....interesting.
- Josh Smith talks a lot.
- Thoughts on the scrimmage from many in the comments.
- Most impressive (taken with a grain of salt): Othello Hunter and Mike Bibby's leadership.
- Biggest letdown (taken with less than a grain of salt): Jeff Teague looked talented, but looked even more like a rookie.
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“won’t i just stay in the corner” josh smith
“no, because if he thrown it up at the rim, I want you there.” woodson.
thank you mike. also, how does that conversation have to happen?
by hawksdawgs on Oct 6, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Siler looks good, at times, during 5 on 5s.
by Bronn on Oct 6, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he is large
and looks a lot fitter than i thought.
by hawksdawgs on Oct 6, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is very nice to see a play talked about
and then done perfectly. it makes me enjoy basketball to the highest degree.
by hawksdawgs on Oct 6, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Othello Hunter
Offensve rebound for a basket, immediately following a sweet little lay-in the previous possession.
by Bronn on Oct 6, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
to bad projections there
teague bad three ball, josh smith not trying to rebound.
by hawksdawgs on Oct 6, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How about taht #50?
He looks like a player.
by Bronn on Oct 6, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is he playing to make the team or start?
by hawksdawgs on Oct 6, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s looking like the most skilled big on the floor right now.
by Bronn on Oct 6, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure who just stole the ball from Bibby
It eas either TEague or Robinson.
by Bronn on Oct 6, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I want to go on record saying....
Othello Hunter looks reaaaallly good.
by dstdeelite on Oct 6, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It is bad
that I got excited over two josh smith training camp free throws?
by Bronn on Oct 6, 2009 12:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
another thing
mike bibby talk alot too. he hasnt shut up the whole time!!! but hes funny
al horford seems to be in another world sometimes
by kaleigh on Oct 6, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe it is just because they are mic'd
but the offense seems like the bibby and josh show. not sure what horford, joe, and marvin are doing.
by hawksdawgs on Oct 6, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea it could be
but they talk alot of ish not just talkin.
all the defense is jus fouling. its annoying how many calls they callin
by kaleigh on Oct 6, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JC with a great crossover and dump off
unfortunately, the guy who caught the ball was Courtney sims, and he traveled.
by Bronn on Oct 6, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
josh smith consistent. he complains to refs in practice too.
by hawksdawgs on Oct 6, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If he didn't play for the HAwks
I’m not sure I’d be a fan of him.
by Bronn on Oct 6, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's too harsh
But I still would like to think he’ll grow out of that, or something.
by Bronn on Oct 6, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats jus him
Josh is gonna be in the league for 15 seasons and still complain to the refs
by kaleigh on Oct 6, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John Stockton, Karl Malone...
among countless others never grew out of it.
by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 6, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair
Karl Malone was right, a lot of the time-seemed like he never got a whistle on a borderline foul, but a lot of his borderline fouls were drawing whistles.
Which shows, his attitude probably played a big part in his ability to draw/avoid drawing fouls, so Smoove would do well NOT to imitate it.
by Bronn on Oct 6, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just sayin he's not alone,...
and in fact that seems the norm these days of NBA players, ‘never committed a foul but get fouled every other time they touch the ball’.
by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 6, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but he does it every single play
most nba players will own up to their fouls once in a blue moon but not josh he cant do nothin wrong.
by kaleigh on Oct 6, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Jamal Crawford mic'd?
I’m wondering who kept shouting “This way Rio, this way Rio!” when he was guarding Crawford.
by Bronn on Oct 6, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
mike bibby does not want to come out. i think he has made that clear.
by hawksdawgs on Oct 6, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yea
he need to though all that heavy breathin i gotta hear
by kaleigh on Oct 6, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is saying, “listen i am not running after practice so you might as well let me play my way back into shape.”
by hawksdawgs on Oct 6, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mario west is bat crazy mid season form.
by hawksdawgs on Oct 6, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This scrimmage is tied, Othello has to have like 20 of the PSers 25 points.
by Bronn on Oct 6, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and yes
Teague made a very slick pass to set up Othello for his last basket.
by Bronn on Oct 6, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
othello hunter is going to beat you down the floor
and that is all there is to it.
by hawksdawgs on Oct 6, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He might not be all that on defense
I think that was O with the foul on MArv there, and a foul earlier on Josh.
But he’s still super impressive.
by Bronn on Oct 6, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bibby is surprisingly likable in this look in. he will move the highest up my “wish we hung out” list.
by hawksdawgs on Oct 6, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And to think...
You’re so high on my list. Sigh!
by Duff_Man on Oct 6, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think i figured it out.
josh smith takes one too many dribbles on every fast break.
by hawksdawgs on Oct 6, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On second thought
I’d imagine this is probably one of those “Technical difficulties” things.
I mean, if they’ve got commentators there, they’d probably say something as they wrap it up. I can’t see just cutting it off like that mid scrimmage.
by Bronn on Oct 6, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technical diffculties dnt last this long
still could of put up a screen that told us they were having problems. i pretty sure its done
by kaleigh on Oct 6, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think so
they could of told us though.
by kaleigh on Oct 6, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice stuff guys, thanks...
as for Crawford and “identity”, I think he means firmly defined role on the team as opposed to just be the man who runs the point, and scores, and does everything on the perimeter since his teams all sucked.
And Eric Snow? What? Is he on staff, cause I don’t recall seeing him on the camp roster.
by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 6, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Working as a commentator
it looks like. Guess he’s gonna be on NBATV this year or something.
by Bronn on Oct 6, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i found him to be rather insightful in a fairly hard environment to draw anything insightful out of it.
which i guess only took one insightful comment.
by hawksdawgs on Oct 6, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
with woodson saying
“it is what it is”
perfect.
by hawksdawgs on Oct 6, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wat??
no more scrimmage. man they could of gone out during this part. i dnt wanna hear woody talk.
by kaleigh on Oct 6, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder who won that scrimmage
Othello was on a scoring binge, and had tied it up against the first teamers at one point.
by Bronn on Oct 6, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i see no image
i hear the ppl but i dnt see the ppl
by kaleigh on Oct 6, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What do you guys think?
Do you think Joe likes Jamal or do you think Joe feels like JC is going to step on his toes. I don’t know what vibe I’m getting. He was kind of hanging around Al a little during the warm up routine. Seems like Al would be a safe bet to hang around if I was the new kid on the block. Maybe it’s just me and motherly instincts. I just want them to play nice. :-)
by dstdeelite on Oct 6, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JJ likes JC
JJ is jus knows that he aint gonna get all those minutes he usally does, which is like 39 per a game so he needs to give up some but they seem friendly towards each other. but JC’s best bet is to hang wit a guy that dnt really care and dnt cause no drama, aka AL
by kaleigh on Oct 6, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know how people despise the Celtics on this blog, but I thought they had the perfect plan a couple of years ago when they won the title. They all had to sacrifice a part of their game for the common goal which was winning a championship. At one point does a player feel their game is established enough that they can take a dip in the stats and focus on the team goals? It all boils down to trusting your teammates.
by dstdeelite on Oct 6, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another guy that stood out
Mike Wilks-among the fringe players, he looks like he’s got the best PG skills. Didn’t see a lot of him, but he made some smooth passes and had solid handles when I did see him.
by Bronn on Oct 6, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
one other thing
zaza did not look bad by any means, but he is definitely a gamer. no ra ra stuff in practice. very subdued.
by hawksdawgs on Oct 6, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mobile Comment!
And I missed the whole training camp thing.
Preseason, here we come!
by Duff_Man on Oct 6, 2009 10:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
wow i didn't even know training camp was on the dish net.
I’m glad they talk out the plays that happened.
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
by maxxj3 on Oct 7, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Next training camps...
Wizards then Celtics
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
by maxxj3 on Oct 7, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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