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Preview and Game Thread #2: Washington Wizards @ Atlanta Hawks

Washington Wizards at Atlanta Hawks, Oct 30, 2009 7:30 PM EDT


Atlanta Hawks 09-10 Season Game  #2

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Philips Arena
October 30th, 2009, 7:30 PM
Fox Sports South, Hawks Radio NetworkNBA Audio League Pass
Probable starters:
Gilbert Arenas
PG Mike Bibby
Mike Miller
SG Joe Johnson
Caron Butler
SF Marvin Williams
Fabricio Oberto PF Josh Smith
Brendan Haywood
C Al Horford

 

Hawks Injury Report: None.

Wizards Injury Report: Antawn Jamison and Javaris Crittenton are out. If the first game is any indication, Nick Young might as well be injured.

Blogging With the Enemy: Bullets Forever, Truth about It

Predicted bane of the Hawks existence: Mike Miller. It would only be fitting on Georgia/Florida weekend. (It should be noted that I would choose JaVale McGee if I thought he was going to play. The man hates the Hawks and loves offensive rebounding).

Game Preview:

This may sound weird but with Antawn Jamison, the Wizards are kind of like the Indiana Pacers with Gilbert Arenas. Put another way, the Wizards are nothing like the Pacers except they are not super in to defense and the Hawks front court should have another big night.

Seriously, Josh Smith needs to come out like a crazy man again because I don't think Oberto can stay with pouty, half trying Josh. And in my only interview with an NBA player ever, Al Horford told me his least favorite player to go against was Brendan Haywood. True story. Apparently, Haywood has a few cheap moves and then apologizes and then does them again. So Brendan and I are not friends. Nor will we ever be. See, I am on of the most loyal fake friends you will ever see. Regardless, I hope Al plays like he still doesn't like Brendan because I think he will be successful.

This game is important. Washington is suppose to and I expect will be one of the teams vying for the 4th seed along side the Hawks. A 2-0 start would do a world of good going into one of the tougher road trips of the season. And it is at home, and until the Hawks prove they can win on the road, every home game is a must win.

The Hawks are going to have their hands full with Mr. Arenas. I will be interest to see who guards him, but it is a safe bet to rule out Mike Bibby. I still don't think a great Gilbert is enough to beat the Hawks at home so shutting down the other Wizards is going to be key. The Hawks are going to have to take team defense to another level to stop young Mr. Arenas though.

Keys to the game:

  1. Front court dominance on both ends of the floor. Especially if Joe is saddled with the responsibility of slowing down Gilbert. 
  2. Jamal Crawford or Marvin Williams step up.
  3. Protect the three point line. The Hawks had some weird/ugly/bad rotation for most of the Pacer game. I would encourage not leaving Mike Miller open for long stretches.

I am headed to Phillips, but started the game thread early to get your thoughts on what could turn out to be the Hawks biggest competition, new ways we can dislike Haywood for no other reason than Al would like it, and why the Hawks are certainly going to win or most definitly going to lose.

Remember, comment of the game thread is in play. Go to actions under any comment you like and recommend it to win. Even if you want to win. Because lets get serious, we all win in the game thread.

Go Hawks!

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speaking of questions

if the wizard can cast spells which he is doing in the logos, you would think he would do something cooler than a finger role.

also, the wizards scare me the more I write about them.

by hawksdawgs on Oct 30, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Why?...

I think we have other priorities next summer.

And I agree with your 3 keys.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 30, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you see the link

his rookie option was not picked up. so he is a free agent now. if the hawks were willing to pick up a 14th guy, he is at least decent in that wing area. plus, if we ever play duke, he could be huge.

by hawksdawgs on Oct 30, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

His option for 2010/11 wasn't picked up

You pick up rookie options a year in advance, so he’s a free agent next year, not this year.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 30, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am an idiot

that is all.

except that it makes sense to the one question i had regarding the fact that the season already started.

by hawksdawgs on Oct 30, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

on that note...

did anyone of interest get cut before the season?

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 30, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hunter?

Isn’t this our project for this year? Injury will determine the 14th spot I would assume.

by RivBoatGambler on Oct 30, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Keys

1.Front court dominance on both ends of the floor. Especially if Joe is saddled with the responsibility of slowing down Gilbert.

We need that balanced scoring attack we exhibited in the Pacer Game. Got to love the less Joe ISO.

by RivBoatGambler on Oct 30, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Keys

2.Jamal Crawford or Marvin Williams step up.

Perfect time for Crawford to guard Arenas. If Crawford wants playing time, what better way is there to get minutes on a Woody team. Lets see some D. We all salivated over the 9 assists. A little of the same would get the glands working again.

by RivBoatGambler on Oct 30, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmmmmm

jj vs gilbert, gots to love it. Although, I would like to see teague and crawford fill out their role more a bit but im confident in the first and second unit. Especially joe smith, still got it.

Nothin Less Than Real

by TheHawksgirl on Oct 30, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Joe Smith

I worried a little about losing Solo but Smith has eased my concerns. “Still got it”

by RivBoatGambler on Oct 30, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

plus solo never really had it.

i would not mind seeing a little teague vs. gilbert (like 2 minutes) just to see what happens.

by hawksdawgs on Oct 30, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Smith is gonna be a good addition...

he’s a solid player, and has a good all around game. He’ll bang with bigs, or step out and work from the edges. He’s been a solid rotation piece for 10 years for good reason. Clearly not worth the #1 pick in that draft, but he’s got a good game.

Most important in my mind though is Joe Smith the vet. Joe Johnson isn’t much of a vocal leader, and I think Joe Smith is a perfect guy to join Mike Bibby in the “been there, done that” group and exert his influence on the games of Josh Smith and Horford by years end. He has great potential in working with those two in practice and improving mentally. (and this paragraph just showed what a pain in the ass this will be to discuss. You can’t say Smith, we have 2, you can’t say Joe, because we have 2, you can’t really short Joe Smith and not risk it getting confused for a teammate)

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 30, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keys

3.Protect the three point line. The Hawks had some weird/ugly/bad rotation for most of the Pacer game. I would encourage not leaving Mike Miller open for long stretches.

Would to see Woody play more zone and straight up man to man defense. We always seem a step slow on 3 pt shots. A little burn for JT with Al and Josh would leave Miller gasping for air.

by RivBoatGambler on Oct 30, 2009 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

i am always a sucker for running

as long as you can still board.

see Chicago last night for a good example.

by hawksdawgs on Oct 30, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Miller isn't the only threat...

Arenas is not afraid to fire away (a career high of 8 made, 15 taken). Caron Butler (5 made, 9 attempts are his career highs), Randy Foye (6 and 10), Deshawn Stevenson (8/12), and Nick Young (3/6). They can load the floor with bombers as much or more than the Pacers could. If we give them space, they definitely have some makers.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 30, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

why the hell does my channel guide say Grizzlies?...

Really, the Grizzlies? Their own mamas don’t even want to watch that mess of a mule orgy.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 30, 2009 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

they got 10 minutes...

what are other getting? Pregame stuff or Barkley “in his own words”?

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 30, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should win

as long as Josh and Al are the best 2 bigs. Their guard play may frustrate us but we have good backcourt depth too

by coachkcastellon on Oct 30, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I am in the blackout zone for the Wizards.

So I have to watch online. Please delay all coments 10 seconds. Thanks in advance.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

God I hate Arenas.

Almost as much as Gerald Wallace.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

No offense so far

We need to run plays we look deathly lazy on O right now

by coachkcastellon on Oct 30, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Slow start

Why are we shooting Jumpers? Bring in the bench.

by RivBoatGambler on Oct 30, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

That's the hat of a man,

that thinks he’s gonna lose his job.

by Buzzsaw on Oct 30, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Josh Smith...

who is apparently a huge Paula Abdul fan, cause he’s always taking two steps forward and two steps back.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 30, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Mike Miller

misunderstood the whole “Highlight Factory” thing.

by Buzzsaw on Oct 30, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Crawford in...

Let’s get some Teague going too.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

JJ...NICE!

Grabbed #2 on Oberto as well.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Zaza comes in...

and all of a sudden, the Hawks lead. Amazing how that happens. The half beard is the key to the season.

We shall henceforth be known as the Atlanta Halfbeards, and go undefeated.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 30, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Deshawn Stevenson...

tries to counter the halfbeard effect, but it’s too ugly.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 30, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Crawford

Playing with more intensity and energy. ZaZa set the tone and Crawford ran with it.

by RivBoatGambler on Oct 30, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Just paid $13 to get the game.

Sports Pack so I can get Fox Sports Mid-Atlantic. TRUE FAN!

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Teague has EXCELLENT footwork.

He really knows how to stay in front of his man.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Listening to the WSH announcers...

You’d think the Wiz was the 1986 Celtics.

This is Gorman/Heinsohn bad.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank goodness

for Fox Sports South.

In Dimitroff we trust

by Bonhoffer on Oct 30, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shooting the 3 ball

very well tonight so far

In Dimitroff we trust

by Bonhoffer on Oct 30, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Acie/Speedy for Crawford

Right now looks as one-sided as the Louisiana Purchase.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it just me

or do the Wizards look alot like the Heat (one man team).

In Dimitroff we trust

by Bonhoffer on Oct 30, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Commercial Break Trade Suggestion

It’s only the first game, and this is only the first time Bibby is literally incapable of guarding anyone on the floor, but it’s never too soon for trade speculation. So, how about Bibby for Andre Miller?

Andre Miller’s coming off the bench in Portland, it’s a joke. He’s disgruntled. They have basically the same contract. The Blazers were talking about trading for Bibby all year last year. It seems too easy. Obviously, he just got there, and I don’t think they can trade him yet anyway (can they?). But he’d be perfect for distributing the ball to our ridiculous athletes, he never misses a game, and he can actually play defense, good defense.

Bibby’s 3pt shooting was obviously a huge part of our success last year, but, now that we’ve got Crawford, a 3pt shooting PG isn’t as necessary.

by Buzzsaw on Oct 30, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Obviously,

I’m not saying we should do it because Crawford is good. Only because Miller doesn’t want to come off the bench for the first time in his career:

"If I was told right out when I had my meetings that I would be a backup, then I wouldn’t have come here," Miller told Yahoo! Sports this week.

So, if they actually keep him on the bench, he could easily request a trade. So, it’s more about taking advantage of that. I don’t normally suggest trading starters during our second game.

by Buzzsaw on Oct 30, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do like Miller.

I think we’d lose very little.

But I like Bibby’s fire and team mentality. Andre Miller is apparently anti-social and not a leader.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then he'd fit in perfectly.

I think he’d make us a legit threat to win the East.

by Buzzsaw on Oct 30, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Smith THREE?!?!?

That’s when you know your team is on fire.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Joe freaking Smith!!!

For THREE!

In Dimitroff we trust

by Bonhoffer on Oct 30, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Joe Smith looks a lot younger out there.

I really like the way he plays. I can’t say it enough…Sund really came through this off-season.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

im totally naming my daughter

Horfina it has been foretold so shall it be done

by Erihury on Oct 30, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big AL

is da man

In Dimitroff we trust

by Bonhoffer on Oct 30, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Jamal,

“Coach told me to be agressive, they didn’t bring me hear to be PASSive.” I’m not complaining.

by Buzzsaw on Oct 30, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Off the bench, I agree.

That’s what made Flip so good last year. He was so much more aggressive then we had seen from our bench.

We need that guy coming in. Score a lot, score often. That trade was a prison rape.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

minutes

Crawford with more min than JJ? Can that be right?

by RivBoatGambler on Oct 30, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

He's playing better.

And it pains me to say that, but it is true.

Woody is managing hot players right now…be still my heart.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jamal Crawford

the point a minute man

In Dimitroff we trust

by Bonhoffer on Oct 30, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Duff_Man

Just the “one minute man”.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

15 points in 15 minutes

the man was on fire in the first half.

In Dimitroff we trust

by Bonhoffer on Oct 30, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good first half

Huge half from Jamal, 15 points on 7 shots, a sweet feed to Josh off the pick and roll, and 3 defensive(!) stops on Caron Butler. I was not expecting that from him.

by thirdfALCON on Oct 30, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

There...Rec'd

I didn’t think i deserved it last game anyway. I only had time for an observation and then I had to bolt.

In Dimitroff we trust

by Bonhoffer on Oct 30, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Teague

Where is teague, where is teague

by yardie on Oct 30, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Marvin....

He kinda looks like Wonder Mike from Sugar Hill Gang.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Shelden Williams

Anybody notice Shelden Williams and
Solo getting more playing time on their respective teams than they got here?

by yardie on Oct 30, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

You laugh, rec me!

I am basically panhandling for recs now.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a little sad

But seems to be working, and in this economy…

"This is America, if we can’t self-righteously look down on others and blame them for our faults, the commies win."-----Cormican on Bleeding Green Nation w/r/t fans overreacting to the Eagles signing of Michael Vick

by Jesse28 on Oct 31, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zaza

dishing out some pain

by Erihury on Oct 30, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Jason collins

Anybody know what’s up with Jason Collins

by yardie on Oct 30, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

You have Miller, Arenas, Foye, Butler

And you insist on running every play through Haywood? They should be running every play for outside shots for those guys.

I know Butler is out, but still. This is ridiculous.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

hawks crowds

watching at home tonight, but it looks like another light crowd – this team deserves better (especially noticable after catching the last few minutes of the raptors/cavs game on nbatv the other night)

by hawksgate on Oct 30, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

i’m well aware that philips will not be like that when the cavs are in town, but still.

by hawksgate on Oct 30, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kimbo Slice

yeah that is Kimbo Slice

by yardie on Oct 30, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

NICE!

Finally a break. Geez.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Totally.

Cruising thru the third killed the chemistry.

We need them to get going. I think Crawford/Bibby will help. Run Bibby at 2 to hit some threes.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

where? commercial

nice to see joe in there (could have done w/o the garnett voice-over)

by hawksgate on Oct 30, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

If Jevale McGee played the Hawks everry game

he would rank right up there with Wilt, Russell and Shaq.

Why is there always some scrub like McGee who plays like a hall-of-famer against the Hawks?

It sort of reminds me of Mike Redmond against the Braves. He was the guy who batted like .800 against Glavine over a 4 year period.

by Fred Pen on Oct 30, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

ISO Joe is a good idea here.

He has the size. A clear-out is a good thing.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

MARVIN!!!

YOUR COUSIN…MARVIN BERRY!

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Reminded me of a young Duff_Man

Back when I was wet from three. Catch in motion and silk it.

/Tears falling from my glory days…

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

HOLY MOSES

That was something I never saw coming.

GREAT pass by Bibby, GREAT finish, Josh!

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Congrats to Josh Smith

Block number 900

In Dimitroff we trust

by Bonhoffer on Oct 30, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Maturity is a beautiful thing

Josh is taking it to another level. As beautiful as that dunk was, the cut and dish on the play before was the thing that will turn him from Dunk guy to Superstar.

by Fred Pen on Oct 30, 2009 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

the great steve smith

’nique is okay, but that last throwdown called for a signature steve smitty, high-pitched, “HOOOOO-WHOOOO”.

i wish i could have steve’s call as my ring tone!

by hawksgate on Oct 30, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

bibby

…just looked like me in high school ball when i was too short and unathletic to play with the top guys

by hawksgate on Oct 30, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

4th season is time to put things together a bit.

by hawksgate on Oct 30, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has looked a bit more explosive than i may have expected though.

by hawksgate on Oct 30, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

82-0?

still a possibility!!!

by hawksgate on Oct 30, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Joe only played 30 minutes

and was pretty bad in all of them, and we won easily…pretty good…

by Fred Pen on Oct 30, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Stat I love...

 29-32 from the FT line.

A total 180 from last season.

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec Duff_Man!

Woo hoo!

Great game, Hawks!

Bench is great, all off-season pik-ups look great!

3-3 off the road is OK by me!

by Duff_Man on Oct 30, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Word to the wise

If you decide not to go to the game after buying your tickets, don’t try to sell said tickets at a sports bar WHILE THE GAME IS GOING ON.

lol.

by Bronn on Oct 30, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Just saying

I’m sitting watching the game at the bar, and there’s a guy with four tickets to the Hawks game trying to sell them. This is like, during the second quarter. And lest you think it just down the street from Phillips, it was in Douglasville.

And you couldn’t make out like the game hadn’t started yet…it’s on tv right in front of everyone.

by Bronn on Oct 30, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

hawks win and i am happy

three dance by the a town dancers, wife is happy

joe smith three pointer? we are all happy.

by hawksdawgs on Oct 30, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

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