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Atlanta Hawks 120, Indiana Pacers 109 or Boss

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With apologies to the fact that Al Horford just dominated all 34 minutes that he touched the floor, the difference in this game was on numerous occasions, led by Josh Smith, the Hawks just took the ball from the Pacers. It was bullying to the highest, finest degree. If you out steal a team 16 to 1, you are usually going to win, even if that team does not miss a shot for a whole half.

The game was closer than the final score indicated and that was because the Hawks only played eight minutes of defense all game. Danny Granger was unmercifully good. Earl Watson and Dahntay Jones did whatever they wanted including hurt my feeling for the better part of three quarters. Troy Murphy continues to be the wussiest, best big man I have see in a long time. Literally, outside the brief moments where Josh Smith decided to take over more than the offensive side of the court, the first quarter of defense was about as bad as it could be.

But as bad as it was, it was not bad enough, and by halftime, the Hawks actually led. That is how good Josh Smith was in the first half. But maybe more importantly, come crunch time, when all the starters reunited midway through the fourth quarter, they were a different team. The Pacers did not miss shots down the stretch. The Hawks blocked them. They stole the ball. They forced turnovers. Basically, the Hawks played 7 or so minutes of playoff defense, and that is all they needed.

Tonight, the Hawks were what countless teams have been to them through the last decade. A tease until it mattered. Then it was over. And it was clear who the better team was as both left the floor.

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Al Horford

Oooohhhh, Mr. Horford. I love you when you average 10 and 8. So 24 and 16 is going to cause problems for my marriage. This was perfect Horford. Energy. Pushing the pace off rebounds. Slowing it down late in the fourth. The man was not only the best player on the court. He was the leader.

tonight was everything that Horford can be. Owning the defensive glass, timely blocks, knocking down jumpers to pull centers out of the paint, and short drives to take advantage of his speed. Big Al is not going to have Roy Hibbert every night, but I would take 18 and 12.

Josh Smith

I hope TV did it justice. Because Josh was a crazy man tonight. The first quarter was Josh Smith against the Pacers. The Pacers missed about two shots and the Hawks were only down three. The frenetic pace was almost hard to describe. It may have led to some defensive lapses in the first half, but it also led to some of the easiest baskets the Hawks will see all year.

Josh Smith played the first half in take over mode. And the rest of the team let him. That friends is a good sign on all fronts.

Joe Johnson

The man can sure put up some quiet 25 points games. It took a decent amount of shots, but Joe did not press in the first half when the shots were not following. And while him and Woodson, teetered on wanting to run isolations for the entire fourth quarter. They didn't. And that is what mattered.

For all the knocks, I sometimes give Joe. When the Hawks needed a bucket tonight. Joe did his slow man probe into the lane and found a way to score.

  • Apparently, everyone gets their shots when you steal the ball a 100 times in a game.
  • Except Jamal Crawford. The full second unit played twice together tonight. And while I am for the creating, floor general Jamal, if the options are Zaza backing someone down 18 feet from the basket or Crawford doing anything. I will take anything.
  • Danny Granger. Good goodness that dude is good. He made Marvin look like a bad defender.
  • Speaking of Marvin Williams, he is never going to be a take over the game kind of guy. Just not going to happen. But he sure as heck can glue a team together. Clutch baskets and rebounds tonight.
  • Mike Bibby looked like nothing more than a speed bump for the Hawks help defense on his man before the fourth quarter.
  • Jeff Teague looked like a rookie tonight. But he looked like a rookie giving serious effort with a lot of skill.
  • Hats off to Woody for calling plays for Marvin, Horford, and Josh multiple times in the first quarter. It was borderline weird to see.
  • Josh McRoberts looks like he likes his speakers at 11.

More tomorrow. Along with the comment of the gamethread. But until then, 1-0 baby, 1-0.

Go Hawks!

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This was a game we lost a couple of years ago. I mentioned a second tier mentality. We know we can beat everybody else but the best teams. A couple of games like this on the road and maybe we can break through to the next level.

by RivBoatGambler on Oct 29, 2009 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Airhawk deserves a mention, he’s the best thing to ever happen to this team.

by AirHawksnumberonefan on Oct 29, 2009 1:07 AM EDT reply actions  

haha

a serious omission on my part.

by hawksdawgs on Oct 29, 2009 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty good opener...

good ball movement, nice play when it mattered, lots to build on, and some things to focus on when they get back to work (like Josh Smith on the glass and defensive FG%). But last night showed a lot of reasons to think the Hawks can be ready to make a move with their ball movement, Al’s domination, and the depth.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 29, 2009 8:28 AM EDT reply actions  

outside of a few moments in the fourth quarter

the ball movement was ridiculous. Maybe it just seemed that way coming off of the Orlando game where the Hawks apparently were playing a game where max two players could touch it.

by hawksdawgs on Oct 29, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

re: Orlando...

can we say PRESEASON on that one now. After last night, it seems pretty clear the team was ready to get that over with and begin the real games.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 29, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I concur.

The team proved what they wanted in the previous preseason games. They were on the road and wanted to get home and get ready for games that count. Not that I endorse lack of effort, but I do endorse not getting hurt, etc.

This team at home is going to be nearly impossible to beat if they play that way every night.

by Duff_Man on Oct 29, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

i certainly dont put stock in that game

because that game was awful.

but against good defenses, the Hawks tend to go one on one and out athlete people after the initial ball movement does not work or they get behind big.

the more practice the team practices moving and passing the better. because it is going to take a lot of practice to do that against orlando, boston, and cleveland.

by hawksdawgs on Oct 29, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

it is actually why i like running against those teams

our half court offense can be great, but consistent it is not….yet.

by hawksdawgs on Oct 29, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Teague is key.

If we’re going to slow it down, we have to be better at getting into the lane and creating things instead of settling for jumpers. If Teague can contribute steadily, he’ll really help to open things up.

If we’re going to play that way, the one big thing we’re missing is a true dead-eye shooter. Like a Kapono or a Euro guy. I’d love to see us pick one up somewhere along the line.

by Duff_Man on Oct 29, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, we do all right between Mo Evans and Mike Bibby. Those guys get a lot of spot up attempts out of the JJ Iso, and last year we did pretty well using them as our marksmen.

by Bronn on Oct 29, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

isos are not bad

they are a large part of the nba game.

but you want good spacing, good passing to get into it, time on the shot clock, and create mismatches with picks and such as much as possible. and shooters on the wings in case of double teams.

and doing iso offense for a whole quarter is obviously never good.

by hawksdawgs on Oct 29, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

w/r/t "a Euro guy"

Please see Exhibit A: Our 2nd round pick.

I blasted the pick, but there he is, one of the best pure shooters in the Dutch (I think, don’t really remember, so it could be Norwegian, or Polish, or whatever else they have over there) league. He’s still extremely young though, so I think that’s why they are leaving him over there for a year.

"This is America, if we can’t self-righteously look down on others and blame them for our faults, the commies win."-----Cormican on Bleeding Green Nation w/r/t fans overreacting to the Eagles signing of Michael Vick

by Jesse28 on Oct 29, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Cenk Akyol has some promise...

oh wait, that was the Euro guy from a few years ago (who is the new one, Serg Gladyr?). Basically, hard to put any stock in a Euro before the make the jump. Italy, Greece, and Spain have decent leagues, I’m not sure on any of the others, and we can all run down the list of Euro busts, starting with Skita Tskitishvili. Have the Hawks ever had a Euro guy step up into a big role, besides of course our Georgian cousin.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 29, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

after next year

when mo’s contract is up. I will gladly take mr. gladyr. he could be a real steal. it is low risk, decent reward and most 2nd round picks are not even that.

if blair was not available 8 or so picks ahead. i think that pick would be a non issue.

by hawksdawgs on Oct 29, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

he could be a steal...

or he could be nothing, see Cenk Akyol. Or maybe it’s Akyol who comes over and earns a spot. Point is, until they actually DO earn a job, I’m not gonna expect it. In other words, don’t hold your breath.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 29, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

trust me, i'm not

Just wanted to point out the pick.

"This is America, if we can’t self-righteously look down on others and blame them for our faults, the commies win."-----Cormican on Bleeding Green Nation w/r/t fans overreacting to the Eagles signing of Michael Vick

by Jesse28 on Oct 29, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have found it a good rule of thumb

never to hold your breath with anything hawks related.

by hawksdawgs on Oct 29, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

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