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It is the season of previews. Peachtree Hoops dropped ours last week. But that was done in the preseason optimism that reigned over us before the Orlando game.

Clearly, Joe Johnson would have a different perspective after the loss on Friday.

"Sometimes, I can't tell if we really want it,'' Johnson told FanHouse after his Hawks were embarrassed by a 37-point loss Friday night in their final exhibition game by the Orlando Magic. "It's discouraging. Sometimes, you never know what you're going to get from this team. And that won't work.''

I could call this leadership or I could call this throwing under the bus. Either way though, you normally want your leadership to have a clear line between the two.

The Human Highlight blog continues to call everyone aboard the train of depression/realism with their own preview.


That the front office doubled down on the status quo with their moves in the off-season while not extending the chief architect's (Mike Woodson's deal ends at the end of this season) contract was telling in that they believe they have the talent to win big, but not sure about the basketball philosophy that's wrapped around it. You can't expect a different paradigm from the same people--that's why organizations make changes even while winning. If this style doesn't scale up again this year, THHB would expect a change in approach before the next season begins.

Woodson getting fired? Check that the train of optimism/realism. Ahhhh, I kid, I kid.

Star-divide

The opposing scout behind the curtain at CNNSI subtly looks more into free agency 2010 and how Joe Johnson could be a great number two than he does at the Hawks, must be the Knicks scout. He/She does grace us with the Hawks pecking order.


Joe Johnson is by far and away the best player on this team. I know Josh Smith gets a lot of attention because of the highlight dunks, but he isn't even the team's second-best player. I would say Al Horford is their No. 2 guy, and there is a big drop-off between Johnson and Horford.

I like the argument for conversation, but tough to emphasize consistency that much on what makes a good player.

Also, did you know the Hawks drafted Marvin Wiliams over Christ Paul? Who knew? Thank you anonymous scout.

The scouting report from SI delves mostly into the Jamal Crawford signing. I happen to be liking Jamal more and more, unfortunately not as a player but more as a person. As a player, he is starting to freak me out with how well he will fit in Woody's stand around offense. Anyway, I liked this quote from the article.

"These guys are like an '80s team with how long they have been together," he says. "My job is just to fit in."


But fear not. The Hawks are not all drugs and pessimism. Fanhouse's preview drops this bomb.

They will win more than 50 games for the first time in over a decade.

Then again, that article opens up talking about how the Hawks should have drafted Chris Paul.

 

They also pump up Josh Smith by reminding everyone if you forget Josh's glaring weaknesses, he is totally awesome. I refuse to disagree with that impossible point. 

Moving on to my secretly favorite national blog, Ball Don't Lie, Kelly Dwyer speaks normalcy and rationality into the precedings which, while obvious, need to be said...and then repeated.

Let's give J.J. a break. He's an All-Star, but the Hawks can't keep trotting him out there for 40 or 41 minutes a night while asking him to act the part of LeBron Jr.

He's proven he can't work that way. Replacing those minutes with Mo Evans or Jamal Crawford or a big lineup will hurt, but not as much as watching the guy who takes the majority of your shots struggle through a 36 percent shooting month, with iffy defense, just because you're riding him too hard.

Bethlehem Shoals always has interesting things to say and there are some of that in his preview, but of course, I give him high praise for putting Zaza Pachulia under "blog superstars" with this tagline.

Someone get Zaza Pachulia on the corporate lecture circuit, tape it, and send it to me so I can disseminate it.

Agreed.

Taking it down a notch to team to team, Nets are Scorching compares New Jersey and Atlanta. Tough to disagree with anything they say. Devin Harris can do bad things to Mike Bibby and Al Horford had a tough time against Brooke Lopez. On a side note, I actually like the Nets. I think they are the new look Hawks with an athletic bookends at the point guard and center position instead of on the wings.

On Josh Smith, Nets are Scorching drop this one.

There was really no explanation for the decline (of PER, blocked shots, etc), so he’s a player to watch this season to see which direction he’s headed.

Funny, that is actually as good as you can do when it comes to analyzing Josh smith.

Finally, one almost has to end with the WWL. Which, outside of Hollinger's player projections, I find to be quite bad. If you hire 10 writers, you would think it is for detailed writing and not two sentences from 12 different guys. But that is what we got. End of story, fluff and the fourth seed. That is what you should expect. Give me Bret as Hawks beat writer for ESPN! I demand it!

There you go. Take these meaningless predictions, mine and others, and let them be reasons to wallow in your drink or celebrate. More previews probably to come. Tis the season after all.

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“I like the argument for conversation but to say Al Horford is the number two and there is a big drop off to Josh is silly”

I think the sentence was referring to drop off from Joe as #1, to whoever is #2 be it Al or Josh. Not a drop off from #2 to #3, as it says “a big drop-off between Johnson and Horford.”

And the Woody comment from Human Highlight has me thinking. Is there a possible mid season replacement, either from outside or within, that could light a spark under the team down the stretch? If the team struggles around the middle of the pack for the first half of the year, I could easily see a move to ’shake things up".

As for the Magic game, I’m just glad it didn’t count. If that is the wake up call to get this team playing with max effort night in and night out, like they “really want it” according to Joe, let’s be glad it happened in October and we didn’t have to wait until mid season.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 26, 2009 8:46 AM EDT reply actions  

whoops you are right about the SI thing.

i will find another reason to make fun of them.

and on a midseason coaching change.
1. you cannot argue continuity matters and be ok with woodson being fired in the middle of the season.
2. i think it could spark a run of wins. whole breath of fresh air thing.
3. you are not going to get a top coach so you are either promoting from within and/or renting a coach for part of the season. someone like Avery Johnson is not coming in midseason. He would want to be able to install his own system etc.
4. the hawks don’t want to pay two coaches.

basically if the hawks fire woodson, i predict the situation is pretty bad. and not just a mike woodson problem.

by hawksdawgs on Oct 26, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

rereading that

it looks like i am pretending I have facts or even historical evidence. i have no idea. just want i am thinking. but it makes sense in my mind.

by hawksdawgs on Oct 26, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

it reads ok...

not clean, but enough like a pro/con of the situation. Although I don’t think 4 is much of an obstacle. Woody isn’t that expensive, and a mid year replacement likely wouldn’t be either. Plus that is mainly firing a guy with a multi-year deal, so you are paying multiple coaches over a full season or two, or three, instead of just a few months.

And judging by your name, I assume you know Dennis Felton is jobless in the Atlanta area. He could certainly come in bringing his unique flair and fire.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 26, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

dennis felton

would make woody’s offense look explosive.

by hawksdawgs on Oct 26, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's so frustrating

I am so sick of hearing about the Marvin Williams/Chris Paul snafu. OMG!! How many different ways can a person write the same article without someone screaming, “Enough!!” We as Hawks fans,some of us at least, have gotten over this. Why can’t the rest of the world?? The whole thing is moot anyway. So why keep reporting on that? I don’t see Chris Paul working miracles in New Orleans. Like we’ve been preaching all along, it is a TEAM effort. If they keep up this inconsistency crap, they’re going to find themselves back in Lottery Land.

by dstdeelite on Oct 26, 2009 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

And how about this,...

any thinking that he’ll leave New Orleans when the deal is up to play with a winner? Then we can get Chris Paul AND Marvin Williams. You know that was Billy Knight’s plan all along, if we had just shown the patience.

by Mr. Sanchez on Oct 26, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

And another thing....

I’m not too keen on calling out your team in front of the whole world. All the things he told this reporter, I hope was said directly to those guys in the locker room after the game. WIth JJ not signing an extension, this does look good. He didn’t play all that damn well himself. People can make the same argument about him. At times he seems aloof. I have long been a supporter of JJ, but I think this was wrong. I could maybe understand where he was coming from had he scored thirty points and nobody else did a damn thing, But you go 2-8 from the field and you’re calling someone else out?? Double team or not, elite stars find a way. The teams around the NBA will be looking for any kind of mental leverage to beat us and he’s given them the blood in the water for them to attack. Will he pull a Vince Carter and quit on us? I sure as hell hope not, but that game Friday left a sour taste in my mouth….Preseason or not. If he’s expecting a big pay day, he’d better shut his mouth and play some monster-ass basketball.

by dstdeelite on Oct 26, 2009 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Home Cooking

Orlando may be 2nd best team in the NBA, they were playing at home, it’s preseason so who cares. I suggest we are overreacting a bit. By the end of the regular season we hope to be a better road team. In the meantime lets see what is in the pot while we do some home cooking.

by RivBoatGambler on Oct 26, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

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