Blogger MVP and ROY Rankings, New Year Edition
The latest instance of my failure to be a homer is included in the new set of rankings which are over at Raptors HQ.
My ballot...
MVP
- LeBron James
- Chris Paul
- Dwyane Wade
- Dwight Howard
- Tim Duncan
- Kobe Bryant
- Devin Harris
- Brandon Roy
- Dirk Nowitzki
- Yao Ming
Next 5: Chris Bosh, Amare Stoudemire, Joe Johnson, Tony Parker, and Pau Gasol
Rookie of the Year
- OJ Mayo
- Derrick Rose
- Marc Gasol
- Rudy Fernandez
- Russell Westbrook
Next 6: Brook Lopez, Dj Augustin, Mario Chalmers, Greg Oden, Michael Beasley, and Luc Richard Mbah a Moute
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granted he still wouldn't make the top ten
but it seems only fair to Acie to start considering him as you make up the rookie list.
not again
Here we go again with the rankings. i won’t start a holy war like last time. i’ll simply state this: 7 guys on your list ahead of Joe, have worse team records than the hawks. now that either means one of two things, you think the Hawks have better pieces in place around him than those other 7 (which i guess im ok with), or that the Hawks are a fluke.
I mean, Toronto is 8 games below 500, i dont care what stats Bosh is putting up, he can’t be talked about in MVP talk. neither can devin harris.
i love brandon roy. i think he’s a phenomenal player. You think his supporting cast is weaker than atlanta? i’d argue portland has more talent. you’d trade Roy for JJ right now? really?
the suns by all accounts have been disappointing, amare’s played great, but he’s been more valubale to his team than Joe? Really?
If anything, this is your attempt at remaining humble. I have no doubt any higher ranking for Joe would raise some eyebrows of your blog brethren.
But it’s time for the rest of the NBA to recognize Joe’s ability.
Here are my MVP rankings:
1. lebron
2. cp3
3. d wade (although i could argue for joe here)
4. joe
5. d. howard
Now let me explain. I think Kobe’s numbers are down this year as he plays team ball a bit more. D. Howard doesn’t have the ball in his hands in the last seconds of the game like Joe and he shoots 50% from the line. That’s not an MVP, although his D and lane presence make him a candidate, as does Orlando’s record.
I’m sure I’ll get shot down, but I refuse to sit by and let Joe get unnoticed in the MVP race when he’s led this once shameful team to the 5th best record in the NBA. The guy takes the Hawks’ biggest shots and defends the opposing team’s best perimeter player. What else can he do?
I usually don't respond to these
Because I feel it’s very obvious that some players are extremely valuable even if their team stinks. I suppose there’s this fallacy that you can’t be adding much to a team if they have little success, and I used to believe that myself, but I’ve realized that sometimes teams are so bad that the best player in the league can do little with it. Kevin Garnett is the same guy he was in Minnesota when he was on some terrible teams, and if he hadn’t been on those teams, they might have struggled to win 5 games. Putting more talent doesn’t make him more valuable-in fact you can argue it makes him less valuable.
I’m not going to argue every player here, but let me attempt to argue the point at large. If you really think that JJ is more valuable because his team has won more games, then why have the MVP voting at all? Just give it to the guy who scores the most points on the team that wins the most games right? His team is the best, so he must be the MVP.
Funny, I actually hear this argument quite often. The MVP has to be the best player on the best team (last year, many argued for Kobe instead of Chris Paul because Kobe was on a better team)l. This is a classic example of circular logic. Yet it’s a pitiable argument when you actually beg the question
Why is Kobe Bryant the most valuable player?
Because he plays on the best team
Why are the Lakers the best team?
Because Kobe Bryant is the MVP.
You simply cannot focus entire on a team’s performance to make conclusions about any one player on that team.
That’s using one unsound premise to defend another unsound premise. One player alone is not responsible for his team’s record. You could throw me out there with Kobe, Lebron, Duncan, and Howard for 38 minutes and we’d win some games. But if you substitute Mario West for me, that team probably wins 65+ games. Just because my team had 50 wins doesn’t mean I’m a better point guard than Jose Calderon.
While it’s hard to isolate a player from his team’s performance, you need to make some kind of effort to do so. You’d be interested to learn, I imagine, that Brandon Roy is assisted on only 30% of his made field goals while Joe is assisted on 44%. And this is despite an offensive concept that relies extremely heavily on Joe beating everyone in order to get a shot up. Combine this with the fact that Brandon Roy makes a higher percentage of his shots than Joe and has a lower turnover percentage, and you being to see how he might be more valuable than Joe Johnson.

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